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Post subject: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:42 pm |
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Well, what classess do u think is better than bow and what they can beat?
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:00 pm |
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advantages of bow Crit Range Attack Rating Stun Kb Darkness(sideeffect)
they are better at unique hunting too!
advatnges of glavie HP Stun Kb High DMg Dull
Bladers Stun Dull Division Bleed Impotent Fear KD+Stab and new shield techqniue has shield tanker
spear nuker HIGH dmg Hp Stun+Kb+Dull
S/S Nuker All blader has+Nukes
all chinese can 1hit euros 1 on 1 unless its cleric so say something ppl!
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:50 pm |
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Euro's shouldn't use clerics buffs while pvping its sad because they actually need them and any euro build will rape any chinese build with cleric buffs.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:09 pm |
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Bow owns vs all classes IMO. There knockback can stop powerful/slow moves such as DareDevil and Wizard Nukes. Only problem is Defense is a bit low, since you got no HP Passive or Shield so they're not really the "tanking" type. Also, Bow is one of the few classes that go Hybrid and literally own...
Pure STR -> [Good HP] Weak Attacks OK Criticals
Hybrid STR -> [Higher SnowShield] Strong attacks OK Criticals
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:13 pm |
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WiseOne wrote: Bow owns vs all classes IMO. There knockback can stop powerful/slow moves such as DareDevil and Wizard Nukes. Only problem is Defense is a bit low, since you got no HP Passive or Shield so they're not really the "tanking" type. Also, Bow is one of the few classes that go Hybrid and literally own...
Pure STR -> [Good HP] Weak Attacks OK Criticals
Hybrid STR -> [Higher SnowShield] Strong attacks OK Criticals hybrid str has lower hp i find going hybrid str for bow is dumb IMO why would you want a little more damage when they crit extremly often?? and going hybrid makes you lose hp. hybrid str and pure str at 90 cap have 30 ice so they both use the same amount of snow sheild.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:16 pm |
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^ Ehm yes, but Hybrid STR = Higher Snowshield.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:25 pm |
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hybrid str 90 cap 90 bow 90 fire 90 light 30 ice
Pure str 90 cap 90 bow 90 fire 90 light 30 ice
they both use the same amount of snow sheild!
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:34 pm |
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80 Light 40 Ice
60 Light 60 Ice
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:15 pm |
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bows can pretty much kill any build except a blader with a high BR shield.... blocking 70% of your attacks
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:56 pm |
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okay if euros use cleric buff, its only fair that chinese get cleric buffs too
and i think bow own in job and pvp so ya ^_^
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:31 pm |
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Recruiter wrote: all chinese can 1hit euros 1 on 1 unless its cleric so say something ppl! Lol sure...I'd love to see a chinese 1 hit a pure str warrior...(same level of course). You're probably thinking about the pure int euro wizards in Life control/turnover and rogues in desperate when they have 50% HP reduce; Besides that, it's not gonna happen. Also, euros can only have cleric buffs on them if they have someone else buffing them...they disappear after switching weapons (except recovery division, bless spell, and holy word/spell). But OT: Any build can kill any other build, it just takes more than simple button mashing to do so.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 3:11 pm |
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LOL,
nice tread well if it were so simple why don't we all play BOW!!
Well i can tell you all becasue it does not OWN everybody xD. A euro with cleric sub can use the most important skills e.g. Bless himself.. so well he is undefeatable for 45 sec. Well KB is nice really, but u can't use it when u got an instant stunn from a warlock, getting debuffed Blood Trap slumber switch cleric offering well thats about it for the bow xD. S/S nuker hast high survivability with snow and does a lot of dmg (und slide KD and STAB u will have a hard time with ur KB there^^)
What i want to say is that bow has a lot of style but it does not dominate at all.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:37 am |
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Pff if an european char use cleric cuz is his sub its totally fair Did you ever played this game? BTW try to 1 hit a warrior. Even a rogue using DD/CX can resist 1 hit, it may be enough time to take you down. Think about this....
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:24 am |
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Recruiter wrote: all chinese can 1hit euros 1 on 1 unless its cleric so say something ppl! I loled at that. So untrue. Not all Euros are suicidal Rogues and Wizards. Good job in making a completely baseless statement that you can't prove. There, I said something Chinese Bow is really good IMO. They are expert stallers, are good at surviving, and will only get much better when they get higher books that add more stun, KB, and crit to their repetoire. But they are definitely not without weaknesses, just like every other class out there.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:23 am |
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nohunta wrote: Euro's shouldn't use clerics buffs while pvping its sad because they actually need them and any euro build will rape any chinese build with cleric buffs. lol why shouldn't a euro use a skill that he or she was given? That's like a euro saying why can't you just not use snow shield? Or stop useing your skill all together? Anyway all euro class all already deadly with thier original buffs. Only time I've seen cleric buffs used in pvp is when both parties have them or some guy just wants to annoy the crap outta of another guy.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:39 pm |
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xbows (with cleric or maybe rogue subs) eat bows alive.. they have that passive that decreases ranged melee damage (Avoid).. also 2H/cleric can beat bows fairly easy i think.. sprint assault > dare devil really hurt, esp if they crit (which they do quite alot)
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:49 pm |
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........................................................ I have a str bow myself so I know it is strong and will get even stronger at 90 cap. But you can try to 1 hit me on my warrior lol, honestly you dont make any chance to 1 hit me not even with 1 amazing crit. Every build has its pro's and con's never think your the strongest.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:53 pm |
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Bounzzer wrote: ........................................................ I have a str bow myself so I know it is strong and will get even stronger at 90 cap. But you can try to 1 hit me on my warrior lol, honestly you dont make any chance to 1 hit me not even with 1 amazing crit. Every build has its pro's and con's never think your the strongest. i never said ill 1 hit anyone.. i just said they can do alot of damage.. u know combined with all the skin /bless stuff, its realy unbeatable (maybe a .../warlock can kill that if stuns work in time)
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:42 pm |
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Recruiter wrote: advantages of bow
advatnges of glavie HP Stun Kb High DMg Dull attacks for mutliple monsters at the same time (ghost spear, heuksal spear and flying dragon)
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:09 pm |
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ya bow has bomb arrow and mind arrow and autum arrow idioit
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:09 pm |
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Bow can win any class, yes even warrior.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:09 am |
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AWM wrote: Bow can win any class, yes even warrior. ........its easy to say, i would like to see a bowman trying to kill a warrior with iron/mana skin on.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:03 am |
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WiseOne wrote: Bow owns vs all classes IMO. There knockback can stop powerful/slow moves such as DareDevil and Wizard Nukes. Only problem is Defense is a bit low, since you got no HP Passive or Shield so they're not really the "tanking" type. Also, Bow is one of the few classes that go Hybrid and literally own...
Pure STR -> [Good HP] Weak Attacks OMFG Criticals
Hybrid STR -> [Higher SnowShield] Strong attacks OK Criticals Fixed.
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:07 am |
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NobleHunter wrote: AWM wrote: Bow can win any class, yes even warrior. ........its easy to say, i would like to see a bowman trying to kill a warrior with iron/mana skin on. mmm if i was thew bow i would just phatom away for 45s until the buff is over and then hit him
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:42 am |
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Recruiter wrote: NobleHunter wrote: AWM wrote: Bow can win any class, yes even warrior. ........its easy to say, i would like to see a bowman trying to kill a warrior with iron/mana skin on. mmm if i was thew bow i would just phatom away for 45s until the buff is over and then hit him what makes you think the warrior will not abandon the battle field too? and even if he is still there he can use bless spell if his sub is cleric. you will phantom away from the warrior again? If his sub is warlock he can stun you, debuff you and then kill you with a few hits. Welcome to SRO
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:55 am |
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NobleHunter wrote: AWM wrote: Bow can win any class, yes even warrior. ........its easy to say, i would like to see a bowman trying to kill a warrior with iron/mana skin on. Been there, done that. And you can see it yourself from youtube, search "UnDutchable" and "_Danny_" very nice pvp vids. 
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:44 am |
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Lol, i would like to see the noob your hero was pvping. I dont trust those videos, someone said even a full int blader looks like the ultimate build in those videos and thats true. im not saying its impossible to kill a warrior using iron skin, nothing is impossible in this game. 
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:04 pm |
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NobleHunter wrote: Lol, i would like to see the noob your hero was pvping. I dont trust those videos, someone said even a full int blader looks like the ultimate build in those videos and thats true. im not saying its impossible to kill a warrior using iron skin, nothing is impossible in this game.  Doesnt make so much sense.. my hero? ok dude. Thats just fact that bow can kill 2h warrior @ 1vs1. 
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Post subject: Re: The Official Bow vs All other Class Thread Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:20 pm |
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fact? who on earth said that fact? You? if the warrior has any idea of what he's doing the bower should be down in no time.. tell me what a bower is supposed to do with iron skin other than running away and w8ing it to go away. 1v1 pvp isnt about running when ur opponent puts his strong buffs on.. thats called 1v1 lameness.. anyway dont tell me a bower can tank a 2 hander plz cuz even a glavier might not be able do do this, AND dont tell me a bower can kill a warrior with iron/mana skin/bless on, cuz even a WIZARD CANT
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