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 Post subject: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:46 pm 
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What you think about bowman on lvl 90 with masterys:
Pacheon: 90
Fire: 90
Cold:90
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Fire imbue and buffs, cold for buffs and snow shield and also cold imbue for grinding... so is this ok? I realy dont need light buffs for speed, becouse i play with my guild friends, and 3 of them are eu warrior/bard and they can buff me for speed always... but other light buffs, are they needed for good bowman? Piercing force and concentration series.

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:43 pm 
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what stats build are u? from your sig, i assume u are a pure str? if it is a pure str, YOU DO NOT NEED THE SNOW SHIELD! for the cold force, the only useful skills in cold are the passive and the ice guard series, which gives u only phys def, but since u're a pure str, u have lots of physical def, there's no need to get more, so it is a waste to max cold out, on the other hand, light force is a must, i heard light imbue is gonna be better than fire at 90 cap and of course it transfer, and it has more buffs that you can use for light, speed it always helpful because u will NOT always be with your friend xD, though if you still dont like light, u can try Force xD or heukal. i'm that anyone of those 2 trees will be better than cold.

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90pach
90light
90fire
30cold

(for me, light tree is a must!)

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:15 pm 
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Yes i am full str.


I am a little confused right now :D How you know that light imbue will be better? Right now its fire>light>cold. Why would they change that?

And about snow shield... full STR + snow shild = imposible to kill :D

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:16 pm 
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emchooo wrote:
Yes i am full str......
And about snow shield... full STR + snow shild = no mp for attacks


changed :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:12 pm 
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Your phys. defense will be unbelivebely strong but you wil lack dmg. For the 90gap bow should be
90 Pach
90 fire
70 light
50 ice

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:43 pm 
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My problem is that my masterys now are:
Pacheon: 62 (max)
Cold: 62 (max)
Light: 50 (buffs max)
Fire: 50 (buffs max)

I and my friend leveling this char for fun and we are not thinking so much about char for jobing or pvp, so we maxing cold becouse it's good for grinding :) So i was today thinking of char, to make a strong char for lvl 90 in jobing mostly, and for pvp.

My imbue is cold, so if I go cold 50lvl i must dlvl cold and also give up fire imbue to 62... so i'm in trap :D

Maybe i'll go pacheon 90, cold 90 (imbue) and fire and light lvl60 (buffs). I know cold sux in pvp but its not soooo bad :)
I don't need to be strongest on server, i think it will be solid char... hope so...

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:02 pm 
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i'm not totally sure about full str cuz i'm playing a hybrid, but there are threads that said light imbue doesnt lose a lot of dmg to fire imbue, especially at cap 90, though str bow are mostly depended on crits, so with fire or light imbue, it wont make any big difference, right now, i'm maxing out my light imbue for pve purpose, later i will max out fire imbue and test it out to see which one is better for pvp....


again: snow shield will not help full str, it will only hurt the full str, like someone had said, you wont have mana left to cast anything if u use snowshield with full str, and of course, someone else also said your phys def is unbelievably strong, so there's no need to buff your phys def anymore... so cold force tree is pretty useless. keep it as low as possible!

u might lack of dps, but ur crit will be crazy, so, to make up for that lack of dps, you can max light to get the piercing force serie, although it increases magic, it help you a lot more compare to cold, and DONT ever think that increasing magic dmage wont help full str, i dont need to explain this do i? (increase parry is also a big plus to a bower because of no shield)

about the imbue, fire or light, it is up to u, but you should max out both fire and light forces... 30 to cold is just extra stuff... (yyou dont even need to put into cold if you dont want to)

so it is very reasonable to get:
90pach
90light
90fire
30cold (or other choices)

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for grinding, hmmm i think light imbue is better for grinding due to it transferring dmage, cold has less damage though it slow the enemy, but for grinding, you need to kill fast right? so light imbue should be a better choice (especially with the speed),

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:38 am 
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I would personally go with 90 fire/heuksal/ ice and 30 light. Since there are alot of players playing euro chars right now, and they only get stronger and stronger with higher caps. Pure str glaive that lack phy. defense and snow shield wont last against pure str euro like warriors or rogue, let alone wizards :roll:
Glaiver already do great damages, with light max out at 90 only give u parry, speed and mag. attack damage increase(which some say will help raise the total damage, but I disagree since the increase damage is insignificant).With ice, u have more phy defense, and u can always chose how many % snowshied that u wanna use, it doesnt have to be 50% or 60%, but depending on the situation :D

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:03 am 
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weymouthhall wrote:
I would personally go with 90 fire/heuksal/ ice and 30 light. Since there are alot of players playing euro chars right now, and they only get stronger and stronger with higher caps. Pure str glaive that lack phy. defense and snow shield wont last against pure str euro like warriors or rogue, let alone wizards :roll:
Glaiver already do great damages, with light max out at 90 only give u parry, speed and mag. attack damage increase(which some say will help raise the total damage, but I disagree since the increase damage is insignificant).With ice, u have more phy defense, and u can always chose how many % snowshied that u wanna use, it doesnt have to be 50% or 60%, but depending on the situation :D


:banghead: u make me laugh buddy xD first, re-read what u've read xD

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:49 pm 
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sinny wrote:
weymouthhall wrote:
I would personally go with 90 fire/heuksal/ ice and 30 light. Since there are alot of players playing euro chars right now, and they only get stronger and stronger with higher caps. Pure str glaive that lack phy. defense and snow shield wont last against pure str euro like warriors or rogue, let alone wizards :roll:
Glaiver already do great damages, with light max out at 90 only give u parry, speed and mag. attack damage increase(which some say will help raise the total damage, but I disagree since the increase damage is insignificant).With ice, u have more phy defense, and u can always chose how many % snowshied that u wanna use, it doesnt have to be 50% or 60%, but depending on the situation :D


:banghead: u make me laugh buddy xD first, re-read what u've read xD

Laugh all u want til u fight against a euro full str at 90 cap :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:04 pm 
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we european str warriors gonna kick everybody's a$$ at lvl 90 just wait!!

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:20 pm 
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weymouthhall wrote:
sinny wrote:
weymouthhall wrote:
I would personally go with 90 fire/heuksal/ ice and 30 light. Since there are alot of players playing euro chars right now, and they only get stronger and stronger with higher caps. Pure str glaive that lack phy. defense and snow shield wont last against pure str euro like warriors or rogue, let alone wizards :roll:
Glaiver already do great damages, with light max out at 90 only give u parry, speed and mag. attack damage increase(which some say will help raise the total damage, but I disagree since the increase damage is insignificant).With ice, u have more phy defense, and u can always chose how many % snowshied that u wanna use, it doesnt have to be 50% or 60%, but depending on the situation :D


:banghead: u make me laugh buddy xD first, re-read what u've read xD

Laugh all u want til u fight against a euro full str at 90 cap :wink:


i gues you havent read the damm topic? or is it just me?
1st> this is about bow not glavie!!!! :banghead:
2nd>pure str glavie lack of def?.... where have you been? :?
3rd> wizards are full str? :shock: holy shi****!!! something new.....

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 7:26 pm 
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hey wats the best build for bow i havent seen hyrbid int nuker bow b4 :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: bow build on lvl90
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:44 pm 
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90 pacheon
90 ice
90 light
for int hybrids

90 pacheon
90 light
90 fire
for str builds

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