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Skyve
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Post subject: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:04 pm |
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Heyy, Im building an Europe Warrior at the moment,Im not taking any sub,like that I was thinking instead of wasting SP into a sub,I could use it for the D.Axe,S/S &2HSword skills! But right now I cant really do the difference between the 3 Weapons,what there advtanges and disvantages of each.Like I know 2HSword can stun,etc,so If someone could provide me with advantes and inconveniants of each of the 3 weapons would be awsome ^^
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:05 pm |
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I dont really think 2h is that important, I would just get Dual axes and 1h.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:18 pm |
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2H for nice damage and KD
1H for tanking and decent damage
axes... for bleed status, I guess.. still a waste of SP imo though
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:24 pm |
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bleed is amazing, it adds 1-2k on your hits... It's worth it. Get the passives too, for a bit better defence, and with axes, and 100% ice immunity on all accessories, your immune to ice.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:25 pm |
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Pretty much what Super8 said.... 2H is great damage and decent tanking 1H is ok damage, amazing tanking Axes is a waste. 
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SaoKill
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:33 pm |
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^ eh, no. Axes are for: 1. Immunity 2. Bleed If someone is freezing you to stop your attacks, switch to axes, and kill them that way. Or, if they aren't, just use axes for some bleed status, which will raise the damage of your attack, too high.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:50 pm |
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axes if you decide on never getting a sub (cleric would be ideal)
but then its still shit cuz that protection passive only activates if you're holding the dual axes.
once u go back to 1h or 2h you'll get frozen, etc.
and axes for bleed? fckin waste. You don't have much protection as a dual axe, you're doing lower damage than 2h and even 1hand rivals dual axe damage, plus they have a shield which you dont and that defense passive compared to 1hands defense passive+defense from shield is crap.
whats the % chance of bleed? hmm... only 20% from a sudden twist. That same skill only has 15% chance of stun. Id go with 1hands shield crush for a dull (25%) that slow the enemy down and an 80% knockback probability.
and yes, dull does multiply your damage just like bleed. Only with certain skills though. The dull just really buys you time to switch to 2hand sword and cast warcry cuz god knows you wont kill a chinese pure str with 1hand sword/shield.
axe is the biggest waste of 80k sp IMO, unless you're infatuated with party grinding and keeping everyone happy cuz you're not using KD or KB.
being a warrior though, a subclass is necessary unless you wanna spend more vigor pots than a chinese user wastes HP pots during a pvp.. A la Vortex-style.
I've agreed with everythin uve said (Saokill) for the past couple days/weeks or so..cept for this one. but im just bash bash today, damn bourbon chicken.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:45 am |
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2H Sword: High Damage, a decent tank
1H Sword: Decent Damage, Best Tank
Dual Axe: I don't know.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:07 am |
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2H + 1H All you need. Dual Axe aren't needed. If you really want to kill someone you take out your 2H and kill the person. Doing a bunch of stuff to make 1 weapon able to kill, I.E. Bleed + KD so you can kill with 1H, is a waste of time. Take the maybe 10 seconds to kill someone with 2H attacks when it's needed. When your damage is not required and your tank-ability, or ability to KB and shit, is required you use your 1H. 2H is good for both scenarios and does not require Dual Axe but if you want 1H to be good in both you need all 3. Just take the 2 and you'll be fine.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:00 am |
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I'm doing 1h/2h and I'll tell ya its awesome, although i did think about going dual axe several times. If i had to re-roll, it would be as a dual axe warrior cause their just to damn sexy.  |  1h/2h strategies i like to use: See a rogue; Switch to 1h, dull:  Kill. See a wizard; Switch to 1h, dull:  Kill. See another warrior; (applies at 40+) Dull  warcry  Maddening/Dare Devil 
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:03 am |
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lol MrFudge, if this ever happens, that it is worth it: 1H: Dull Switch... DA: Bleed first try, Stun Switch... 2H: When stunned you turn on Warcry, than sprint assault They are stunned once again Dare Devil Knockdown Triple Swing/Bash
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:15 pm |
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SaoKill wrote: lol MrFudge, if this ever happens, that it is worth it: 1H: Dull Switch... DA: Bleed first try, Stun Switch... 2H: When stunned you turn on Warcry, than sprint assault They are stunned once again Dare Devil Knockdown Triple Swing/Bash best case scenario^^
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:23 pm |
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2h is for high dmg, ok tanking Axes is for medium dmg, medium tanking 1h is for low dmg, high tanking
if u wanna look cool, and have cool skills, go DA. but really, DA is fun only in the low lvls, and then their dmg sucks more than 1h. if i were u, i would go 2h/1h. while in pvp, use 1h to tank for a while, and when u think you got the chance, switch to 2h for massive dmg, and even more massive crit^^. if u dont wanna sp farm, then dont take a sub, but if u are thinking of a sub, go for cleric. or warlock (for debuffs only).
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:25 pm |
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SaoKill wrote: lol MrFudge, if this ever happens, that it is worth it: 1H: Dull Switch... DA: Bleed first try, Stun Switch... 2H: When stunned you turn on Warcry, than sprint assault They are stunned once again Dare Devil Knockdown Triple Swing/Bash My strategy... Warcry -> Sprint Assault -> Dare Devil -> Turn Rising -> Bash -> Repeat From Sprint Assault Why bother with that shit when you can kill everyone with just Dare Devil and Bash...
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:16 pm |
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Uh... no... If you have cleric or not, if someone gets some stun on you, and crits twice, than your screwed with 2h. It has no defence passives whatsoever..
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:43 pm |
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a 2handed warrior/cleric in robes can hold his own if he knows how to play his build. with 2 skins, a bless, and rod and shield with intesified heals im sure it's not cake to bring it down. If someone interrupts one of your key skills and cancels them out that's when u switch over to 1handed/shield which is why its better to go 2h/1h/cleric than just a single line from the warrior tree. If you fail to kill someone with 2hand within the skins and bless alloted time, then trying to kill them with axes wont happen, and if you try to tank out that period with axes..then why? go 1hand/shield.
Axes are just good looking, their low chance of bleed and stun is pathetic though, even that Axis Quiver that does no damage only has 50% stun.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:24 pm |
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SaoKill wrote: Uh... no... If you have cleric or not, if someone gets some stun on you, and crits twice, than your screwed with 2h. It has no defence passives whatsoever.. Lulz ok w/e. Aren't you the one who was arguing that you won't kill a 2H/Cleric without waiting out Skins and Bless Spell? Anyway, defense passives are stupid since you can only get them for Phys damage... You don't even need to put on Skins or Bless Spell vs other Phy chars, Recovery Division and Vigor grains covers all the damage. Plus the KB and KD are possible defenses too.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:33 pm |
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Eh, Sorry, but you can't knockdown/knockback when you're stunned/knocked down. And, if you use vigors, surely your opponents will do the same thing. Don't think for a second that the Chinese won't use vigors.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:34 pm |
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:35 pm |
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BloodOwnzzz wrote: 2H can out damage vigors... lmao... one second vigors + pots? Don't think so...
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:41 pm |
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SaoKill wrote: BloodOwnzzz wrote: 2H can out damage vigors... lmao... one second vigors + pots? Don't think so... Um yeah I think so... http://youtube.com/watch?v=80Lj89mfn2AThere's at least 1 time I know of a Glaive using vigors in this video. And nobody in this video kills the 2H. Also, this 2H isn't even Cleric secondary and he only uses skins in a few fights...
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:03 pm |
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Got me there 
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:47 pm |
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Already wasted some SP on D.Axes,curst heart ftw I guess ima stick with 1h/2h as for a sub,I mean its a lot of SP,is it rly worth it>
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:28 am |
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Not exactly needed but helps. When your capped and doing some grinding for money you could probably farm a secondary then.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:27 am |
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It is, only if you get cleric. A. Save some money on Vigors... [Recovery Division] B. Bless Spell = NOW 130 Seconds of tankness C. With a bit of immunity on your accesories, you'll be immune to ice
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 4:42 am |
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Hm,Recovery Division,what does it does exactly?Seem's interesting if It could save me from my daily 200k on potions =/
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:32 pm |
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get 1h/cleric at first, i really suggest, then you are welcome to parties, 2h are just pissing of the casters with their KD, for late 8x you can take 2H as pvp.
I think recovery division aggros mobs around you and it last quite long time, so its worth it.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:46 pm |
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+1 I hate 2h in parties.
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Post subject: Re: The Three Ways Of The Warrior Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:42 pm |
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Loki wrote: Hm,Recovery Division,what does it does exactly?Seem's interesting if It could save me from my daily 200k on potions =/ It does. My friend hardly pots when he uses it, and absolutely no pills against mobs. That's why I suggest you get it.
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