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 Post subject: Pure int nuker
PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:04 am 
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Yow, i was thinking

80 fire 80 ice 80 light

and then 60 heuks for the hp bonus. I would go s/s and only use nukes

What say you? :p

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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I think u go 70 bicheon/80 light/80 fire/ 70 cold
and use s/s skillz as it may save u like KD

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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Nah atleast get the last combo for division, i think its 73?

So

Bich ~ 73
Light ~ 80
Cold ~ 80 (for snow shield and phy buff)
Fire ~ 67

You could change cold and fire around if you wanted but becuase your pure int you would need the snow shield.

Just what i would do, when you get division on people they are dead for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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but she need the last nuke for sure at fire

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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To late for these styles of builds, 90 cap isnt far off now.

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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thats why i'm saying 80 fire 80 light 80 ice = 240 (i think :P) and then i would do 60 heuksal for the hp.

90 cap 90 fire 90 ligjt 90 ice 30 heuksal ^^

if you see ksro vids alot of the nukers have this build

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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im goin for this build but at 90 cap im taking pacheon for attack rating increase ^^

so its 80 fire 80 light 80 cold at 80 cap and the 60.. stil unknown.

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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with snow shield, you shouldnt need the hp from the spear tree, those masteries would be better used elsewhere. And whne 90 cap comes out, and it will this year, you will have to get rid of those masteries anyways.

And are you not gonna pvp? dont want any defense skills like stun or knockdown?

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im going to pvp ofcourse but with 50% snowshield i wont need KD i can tank lol

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you sure you don't want a weapon build? imo a 80light80ice80bicheon (or heuksal) and then 90light90ice90bicheon (or heuksal) is good.

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if i dont like it i can always change :P

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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Just go ahead with your idea, this is the wrong forum to ask questions like this. I don't mean to offend anyone but all SRF'ers are "zomfg pvp cant survive without spam kd and chainzzz!!!111" The idea of PvPing like a bunch of bladers/glaviers after watching some braindead bots fight sinked in on almost every iSRO nuker. If you really want a good answer watch kSRO videos or PM BloodOwnzz.

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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Go Ice/Light/Fire

Thats what im doing :D

and after 100 caps im a go light and ice :P

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maybe i'll do bicheon 60 instead of heuksal cause for the castle shield :P if i run out of snowshield i can always use that :P

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antics wrote:
get rid of fire


lol why to get rid of the strongest nuke?

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Why not go Dual Weapon? Drop Fire Dont really need

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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this topic can be closed i figured out what im going to make. A spear with 70:70 naked balance this means 80:85 with gear :P

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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nohunta wrote:
Why not go Dual Weapon? Drop Fire Dont really need


why she don't need the fire nukes???

plz answer.

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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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Its simple, my build is the same.

90 cold / 90 light / 90 fire / 30 whatever i choose at the time, right now im bicheon however i use dual weps. when i pvp i use s/s as my shield has 18 br and is very much a life saver. People currently are linear minded with nukers, a wep based nuker is not the long term for sro! eventually we have 2 masteries we can use!!! Would you drop one of those just for wep skills? No.....you need cold pretty much till the end of sro, and many will likely either then choose light or force, force due to the stun and that evening out the fact you will be the weaker nuker of the two. Ofcourse people will sue fire, but imo it will end up being either cold/light or cold/fire " no light for those essential mag bufs...so probs not", maybe some light/fire for those who dont play for the stun skill.

trust me, bicheon is not needed, the hp passive for heuskall is NOT needed, max ur snow shield for those 2 mins you can tank..........that sentance already exceeds what nukers are made for "Tanking" so count urself lucky you can even tank for 2 mins! Work on rasing ur 1 hit dmg output as high as you can! you really think the odds help u just using kd+stab on a build who can have over triple ur hp and pot spamming? NO CHANCE, at most a nuker can survive a cople of chains without crits, with crits and no snow shield we die 100% of the time! So we rely on a snow shield for 2 min pvp and using what we are made for....max output dmg in a single hit!

Final word from me, wep nukers are fien for 80 cap and maybe even 100! But trust me, the final chinese nuker builds with wep mastery will be so much worse off than those with two of the force based maseries.

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GET FORCE. It completes a Pure Nuker. In the 110 Cap, you get stun.

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QuestionMark wrote:
antics wrote:
get rid of fire


lol why to get rid of the strongest nuke?

to compensate your weaknesses.


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 Post subject: Re: Pure int nuker
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SaoKill wrote:
GET FORCE. It completes a Pure Nuker. In the 110 Cap, you get stun.


glad u read my post well...my build at 110 will have force! i will likely be light/force when all is said and done. cold/force is tempting though, we may even see strong ice nukes by then who knows haha "unlikely".

110 force / 110 light / 80 cold ftw ^^

But hey thats a long way off, so far off im still maxing my fire mastery till the 100 cap lmao!!

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Hideoki wrote:
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GET FORCE. It completes a Pure Nuker. In the 110 Cap, you get stun.


glad u read my post well...my build at 110 will have force! i will likely be light/force when all is said and done. cold/force is tempting though, we may even see strong ice nukes by then who knows haha "unlikely".

110 force / 110 light / 80 cold ftw ^^

But hey thats a long way off, so far off im still maxing my fire mastery till the 100 cap lmao!!

I didn't read your post, Hawaii [from Sparta] helped me out. Lol. Anyways, that's for the 110 cap, and it's good. That's what I would suggest for INT's.
For STR's such as me:
110 Force
110 Bicheon
80 Fire

The Imbue will help enough since you already have debuffs, and with stun, you'll be unstoppable. Why not 100 Bicheon and 90 Fire? Because, At 110 Bicheon you get ANOTHER chain with amazing status effects, to help kill your enemy. And 110 Force, because at 110, you get A. The debuffs for that level to debuff people YOUR level. B. At 110, you get stun.

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Its simple, my build is the same.

90 cold / 90 light / 90 fire / 30 whatever i choose at the time, right now im bicheon however i use dual weps. when i pvp i use s/s as my shield has 18 br and is very much a life saver. People currently are linear minded with nukers, a wep based nuker is not the long term for sro! eventually we have 2 masteries we can use!!! Would you drop one of those just for wep skills? No.....you need cold pretty much till the end of sro, and many will likely either then choose light or force, force due to the stun and that evening out the fact you will be the weaker nuker of the two. Ofcourse people will sue fire, but imo it will end up being either cold/light or cold/fire " no light for those essential mag bufs...so probs not", maybe some light/fire for those who dont play for the stun skill.

trust me, bicheon is not needed, the hp passive for heuskall is NOT needed, max ur snow shield for those 2 mins you can tank..........that sentance already exceeds what nukers are made for "Tanking" so count urself lucky you can even tank for 2 mins! Work on rasing ur 1 hit dmg output as high as you can! you really think the odds help u just using kd+stab on a build who can have over triple ur hp and pot spamming? NO CHANCE, at most a nuker can survive a cople of chains without crits, with crits and no snow shield we die 100% of the time! So we rely on a snow shield for 2 min pvp and using what we are made for....max output dmg in a single hit!

Final word from me, wep nukers are fien for 80 cap and maybe even 100! But trust me, the final chinese nuker builds with wep mastery will be so much worse off than those with two of the force based maseries.


This post ends the discussion lmao ^^

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Its simple, my build is the same.

90 cold / 90 light / 90 fire / 30 whatever i choose at the time, right now im bicheon however i use dual weps. when i pvp i use s/s as my shield has 18 br and is very much a life saver. People currently are linear minded with nukers, a wep based nuker is not the long term for sro! eventually we have 2 masteries we can use!!! Would you drop one of those just for wep skills? No.....you need cold pretty much till the end of sro, and many will likely either then choose light or force, force due to the stun and that evening out the fact you will be the weaker nuker of the two. Ofcourse people will sue fire, but imo it will end up being either cold/light or cold/fire " no light for those essential mag bufs...so probs not", maybe some light/fire for those who dont play for the stun skill.

trust me, bicheon is not needed, the hp passive for heuskall is NOT needed, max ur snow shield for those 2 mins you can tank..........that sentance already exceeds what nukers are made for "Tanking" so count urself lucky you can even tank for 2 mins! Work on rasing ur 1 hit dmg output as high as you can! you really think the odds help u just using kd+stab on a build who can have over triple ur hp and pot spamming? NO CHANCE, at most a nuker can survive a cople of chains without crits, with crits and no snow shield we die 100% of the time! So we rely on a snow shield for 2 min pvp and using what we are made for....max output dmg in a single hit!

Final word from me, wep nukers are fien for 80 cap and maybe even 100! But trust me, the final chinese nuker builds with wep mastery will be so much worse off than those with two of the force based maseries.


This post ends the discussion lmao ^^

Not really. From the 60 Cap all the way to the 100 Cap, you'll be bait for ANY build. You have no defensive moves at all, causing you to be a bit "screwed". At the 110 Cap, you get Stun from Force, if you even get it...

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those who are so braindead to stand there and try and tank a full str build yes you will get owned. i just tend to not pvp full str, with full sox gear and s/s my br rate helps i can sometimes kill pure str with no bicheon needed. I do it, and will do it till i have stun. And i think we will get stun, but hey...no1 can say 100% only konpaku have let us know of this lol.

i was level 57 when i killed a level 63 str in garments +3 and 4 with sos +3 glaive. she had 12k hp and my nukes hit her for 6k each. granted i was killed 3 of the 5 pvp's we had! However, mage vs warrior is what this can be summed up as. Bicheon helps, however as a legit i dont wanan de level it from 100 one day! im planning ahead now so i have elss to do when the tiem comes.

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So.. your just going to PvP INT Chinese? That's going to be some boring crap... For that many Caps...

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Its simple, my build is the same.

90 cold / 90 light / 90 fire / 30 whatever i choose at the time, right now im bicheon however i use dual weps. when i pvp i use s/s as my shield has 18 br and is very much a life saver. People currently are linear minded with nukers, a wep based nuker is not the long term for sro! eventually we have 2 masteries we can use!!! Would you drop one of those just for wep skills? No.....you need cold pretty much till the end of sro, and many will likely either then choose light or force, force due to the stun and that evening out the fact you will be the weaker nuker of the two. Ofcourse people will sue fire, but imo it will end up being either cold/light or cold/fire " no light for those essential mag bufs...so probs not", maybe some light/fire for those who dont play for the stun skill.

trust me, bicheon is not needed, the hp passive for heuskall is NOT needed, max ur snow shield for those 2 mins you can tank..........that sentance already exceeds what nukers are made for "Tanking" so count urself lucky you can even tank for 2 mins! Work on rasing ur 1 hit dmg output as high as you can! you really think the odds help u just using kd+stab on a build who can have over triple ur hp and pot spamming? NO CHANCE, at most a nuker can survive a cople of chains without crits, with crits and no snow shield we die 100% of the time! So we rely on a snow shield for 2 min pvp and using what we are made for....max output dmg in a single hit!

Final word from me, wep nukers are fien for 80 cap and maybe even 100! But trust me, the final chinese nuker builds with wep mastery will be so much worse off than those with two of the force based maseries.


This post ends the discussion lmao ^^

you are correct if you only focus for cape pvp (hey let me wait for my snow shield fights)
there are too many situation where bicheon would be very useful for an int build.


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