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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:45 am 
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Yeah Yeah you keep saying, "well we had more proof" But all everyone else saw was ss similar to these of syl. So just show us what got Luoma banned or wait... is there anything else? :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:53 am 
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dom wrote:
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Yeah Yeah you keep saying, "well we had more proof" But all everyone else saw was ss similar to these of syl. So just show us what got Luoma banned or wait... is there anything else? :roll:


I didn't say anything, atleast not anything you have the permission to see.

And just to clarify, the reason why the proof against Luoma was so outstanding, was because his information in his profile, the profile of the account posted and linked to were the same, as well as admittance.

Now please, hold your tongue unless you have something pertinent to the actual discussion.

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:56 am 
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With this + other previous proof sylhana wont get banned. Whatever.

Thats all I have to say.

I guess anyone can be a mod these days :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Thats all I have to say.


Good. I'll hold you to your word.

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Here is the point: Syl botted or still does.


show me the goddamn proof. Show me a screenshot or video of him ingame botting. SHOW ME!

You and you non-bot freaks need to get and life a GTFO.

EDIT- u know all the botters where the nice people. But as soon as they are gone this forum will be filled with no-life anti-bot assholes

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Here is the point: Syl botted or still does.


show me the goddamn proof. Show me a screenshot or video of him ingame botting. SHOW ME!

You and you non-bot freaks need to get and life a GTFO.

EDIT- u know all the botters where the nice people. But as soon as they are gone this forum will be filled with no-life anti-bot assholes



Too late..."cough" Avalon "cough"

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:02 am 
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dom wrote:
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@Everyone:

There is a secret ninja lair in which the administration and moderators discuss these things. Simply because you have not seen any of the discussion doesn't mean it's not on going, was on going, or will be on going.

Your cries do not fall on deaf ears. I would suggest that everyone reconsider their word choice regarding the way in which they choose to express themselves. Banning someone for botting, especially a moderator, requires a lot of clarifying, confirming, and general discussion. Banning someone for disrespect is much simpler and doesn't take much time.

I assure you all, we don't run a forum, we serve a community. We will be just and concise. Until the eventual day where action is taken or the issue is laid to rest, Sylhana remains an important part of the moderation team and he earns the required respect that comes with it. Again, choose your words wisely, and remember: we are here for the community.


lmao that whole speech reminded me of Kill Bill when O-Ren Iishi is talking to the rest of the Yakuza lord about how just she is but if anybody mentions her heritage "I collect your f*ckin Head."

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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This is a "funny" thread. I'll be watching closely.

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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You and you non-bot freaks need to get and life a GTFO.

EDIT- u know all the botters where the nice people. But as soon as they are gone this forum will be filled with no-life anti-bot assholes


So bots are nice people, but legits are no-lifers, some one who doesnt bot Im sure would say that :roll:

So how about you GTFO and stay in your Farking off topic lounge

But yes forum is already filled with assholes..."cough" Redneck "cough"


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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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where does avalon come into this and what is avalon

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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where does avalon come into this and what is avalon


Best you don't know what Avalon is, it'll ruin your forum experience...

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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They won't unban Ito because certain mods have personal grudges against her, although sufficient proof was given to SG and completely ignored. They won't ban Sylhana for botting because there's sufficient proof yet they're in denial or just great friends with him. There is no point in even trying anymore- the admittion that Sylhana is Sylhana on 0x33 is banworthy.

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He and fly seem to be immune to banning


If you're going to ban people who have been caught botting at one point in time, it shouldn't matter if they do it now or not- you ban people who have retired to OTL/AC or started new on other servers so Fly should be gone too. Even Joymax banned him, and that's really saying something.


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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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They won't unban Ito because certain mods have personal grudges against her, although sufficient proof was given to SG and completely ignored. They won't ban Sylhana for botting because there's sufficient proof yet they're in denial or just great friends with him. There is no point in even trying anymore- the admittion that Sylhana is Sylhana on 0x33 is banworthy.

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He and fly seem to be immune to banning


If you're going to ban people who have been caught botting at one point in time, it shouldn't matter if they do it now or not- you ban people who have retired to OTL/AC or started new on other servers so Fly should be gone too. Even Joymax banned him, and that's really saying something.


+1


They won't unban ito because word of mouth isn't proof. They won't ban Syl because there is lack of REAL proof.

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You and you non-bot freaks need to get and life a GTFO.

EDIT- u know all the botters where the nice people. But as soon as they are gone this forum will be filled with no-life anti-bot assholes


You're an ignorant, generalizing douche, shut the hell up.

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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lol wat the **** is going on here talking about getting out of hand



/entertainment for me yay





oh yah and sylhana doesnt bot

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Lawl whats with all of the anti-anti bot, anti-avalon remarks, avalon is great and one of the few trying 2 end this bot invasion in sro, and anti bots feel the same. Anyways stop going offtopic, this isnt a "whine @ antibots thread cuz they pwnt ur bot friend* thread, its just ppl trying 2 say Syl bots... which i doubt he would even consider it


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why do ppl want a mod down so badly? Seriously if I could spare anyone, I would :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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why do ppl want a mod down so badly? Seriously if I could spare anyone, I would :roll:


Hate bots?

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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EDIT- u know all the botters where the nice people. But as soon as they are gone this forum will be filled with no-life anti-bot assholes


lal.

You really are stuck-up aren't you.

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StuckUP wrote:
EDIT- u know all the botters where the nice people. But as soon as they are gone this forum will be filled with no-life anti-bot assholes


lal.

You really are stuck-up aren't you.

ban for bot support pl0x?

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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Priam wrote:
StuckUP wrote:
EDIT- u know all the botters where the nice people. But as soon as they are gone this forum will be filled with no-life anti-bot assholes


lal.

You really are stuck-up aren't you.

ban for bot support pl0x?


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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Lawl whats with all of the anti-anti bot, anti-avalon remarks, avalon is great and one of the few trying 2 end this bot invasion in sro, and anti bots feel the same. Anyways stop going offtopic, this isnt a "whine @ antibots thread cuz they pwnt ur bot friend* thread, its just ppl trying 2 say Syl bots... which i doubt he would even consider it


I've been wondering the same thing. I see nothing wrong with Avalon. I think they're doing a good thing.

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They won't unban Ito because certain mods have personal grudges against her, although sufficient proof was given to SG and completely ignored. They won't ban Sylhana for botting because there's sufficient proof yet they're in denial or just great friends with him. There is no point in even trying anymore- the admittion that Sylhana is Sylhana on 0x33 is banworthy.

>.< wrote:
He and fly seem to be immune to banning


If you're going to ban people who have been caught botting at one point in time, it shouldn't matter if they do it now or not- you ban people who have retired to OTL/AC or started new on other servers so Fly should be gone too. Even Joymax banned him, and that's really saying something.


+1

ito got banned due to the "ito lulz" stage6 movie not because of any forum id or whatever.

record Sylhanna botting and we all can end this discussion.

having knowledge on bots does not say you are a bot yourself, some people like to explore and extend their knowledge on things without actually using them.


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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Sylhana dude.. with all the evidence pointing in your face, you should just step down as a mod :P its the right thing to do. Get some self respect please :) i hate to see you get beaten around like this


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 Post subject: Re: [Sylhana]
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Personally, this is prolly the hardest case to even form an opinion of.

I think Syl's obvious intimate relationship with the same ppl he is supposed to be eliminating from the forum is a direct conflict of interest as a moderator. He should then prolly only be a moderator for areas that do not involve the game or stripped altogether.

But not banned.

There should be a moratorium on proof. Getting banned for some 6 month old movie off a server you dont play anymore isnt really fair. WitchHazel admitting to botting on his last server here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81413&p=1025732#p1025732 engendered no big outcry for banning yet that is more proof than Ito or Syl have against them.

You have to find some kind of current proof. If you dont have a recent vid or pic of Syl botting, you really have nothing at all.

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Personally, this is prolly the hardest case to even form an opinion of.

I think Syl's obvious intimate relationship with the same ppl he is supposed to be eliminating from the forum is a direct conflict of interest as a moderator. He should then prolly only be a moderator for areas that do not involve the game or stripped altogether.

But not banned.

There should be a moratorium on proof. Getting banned for some 6 month old movie off a server you dont play anymore isnt really fair. WitchHazel admitting to botting on his last server here viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81413&p=1025732#p1025732 engendered no big outcry for banning yet that is more proof than Ito or Syl have against them.

You have to find some kind of current proof. If you dont have a recent vid or pic of Syl botting, you really have nothing at all.


bullshit, people are getting banned for having once botted a year ago.

Some people don't even play the game anymore and are only active in Off-Topic, yet they get banned.

We can't make it like if you don't play SRO anymore, you won't get banned.

Then every botter can say he/she doesn't play silkroad.

It's too easy. As for Sylhana, i totally agree with you, he shouldm't be mod anymore. If a ban is necassary? I really don't know.

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Well then, WitchHazel should have his own thread and should be up for banning. lol

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I have to agree there does seem to be a conflict of interest there. It's one thing to perhaps get an account at a botting forum and lurk around, seeing what the botting community is talking about. However, it's an entirely different issue if you're actively participating in the discussions, helping them, and things like that.

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we've seen SS's of other members on Bot forums chatting it up and discussing bot related topics. Nothing was done the evidence was deemed insufficient. SO either overrule the previous decisions and lay down the ban hammer ona couple ppl or Lock this topic and let Syl go cause theres no point in continuing the discussion.

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Well, even if you botted a year ago, you still should be banned imo. There should be no gray area (yes i stole that from SG).

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