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 Post subject: [UnDutchable] You can ban me ^^
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:47 pm 
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you can ban me :) I dont care, and sice Joymax doesnt care either, there is no point of banning all the non-legits imo. I understand your hate against botters, but you must understand that botters can be nice to, just another style of playing. Some ppl wanna sit 14 hours a day behind their computer screen handgrinding on a hot sunday, others wanna go to the beach with their friends and having fun while their bots are running. What would you choose? And ppl who say: 'no fun in game with playing bot' are just hypocrites imo. I like the game fosho...i just like to pvp, doing fortress, jobbing and plvling ppl i like. I cant imagine ppl like to handgrind all day to gain 40% exp on lv 75+. Most of the bots on this forum actually help all ppl here (includes legits). Me too, i just want to make as much as builds and see how they work and make vids of it to help you guys getting motivation for also making those builds.

Good luck in game, and dont spend too much time on this silly game :roll:

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Sounds like you can't tell the difference between playing 3 hours and 14? How is 3 hours all day? You can EASILY go out during the day, get home and eat, and still have 3 hours to play if not more.

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Good luck in real life and see u again. I like your pvp videos. Hope u'll make it more later :)

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Sounds like you can't tell the difference between playing 3 hours and 14? How is 3 hours all day? You can EASILY go out during the day, get home and eat, and still have 3 hours to play if not more.

Ok let me explain it for you. For me the game starts at lv 80. But hey, thats just me. If i would play 3 hours a day it would take me like 2 years to get 80 farmed. Imagine at 90 and 100 cap. Ppl will quit playing the game or start botting anyway. To get lv 90 full farmed will take around the 900K sp....gl handgrinding that.

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Good luck in real life and see u again. I like your pvp videos. Hope u'll make it more later :)

Atleast a mature answer, tnx Nuclear :) And dont worry, ill make some more soon. Got 2 chars running atm, 1 hybrid str blader(79), and a Glavie/Blade dual weapon char (lv73).

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Sounds like you can't tell the difference between playing 3 hours and 14? How is 3 hours all day? You can EASILY go out during the day, get home and eat, and still have 3 hours to play if not more.

Ok let me explain it for you. For me the game starts at lv 80. But hey, thats just me. If i would play 3 hours a day it would take me like 2 years to get 80 farmed. Imagine at 90 and 100 cap. Ppl will quit playing the game or start botting anyway. To get lv 90 full farmed will take around the 900K sp....gl handgrinding that.


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UnDutchable wrote:
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Sounds like you can't tell the difference between playing 3 hours and 14? How is 3 hours all day? You can EASILY go out during the day, get home and eat, and still have 3 hours to play if not more.

Ok let me explain it for you. For me the game starts at lv 80. But hey, thats just me. If i would play 3 hours a day it would take me like 2 years to get 80 farmed. Imagine at 90 and 100 cap. Ppl will quit playing the game or start botting anyway. To get lv 90 full farmed will take around the 900K sp....gl handgrinding that.



Lol @ mature replies, you're basically calling every legit a no-life. I've been playing less than 2 years, grinding 3 or less hours a day, and I started buying silk at level 50. I'm fully farmed, level 80. It took me one month from 78 -> 80, which is when I farmed just about 100k SP. You're also just assuming that everyone will bot at 90 or 100 cap, but where do you get your information? Not only that but it doesn't take 900k sp to be fully farmed at level 90. Hell for a 90 hueskal 90 fire 90 light glaive build it takes 639k SP. That's from 0->90.

Then again you're just another botter with the same mindset as the rest -> 'OMG HANDGRINDER NO LIFE!! LULZZZZ!!!!'

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Sounds like you can't tell the difference between playing 3 hours and 14? How is 3 hours all day? You can EASILY go out during the day, get home and eat, and still have 3 hours to play if not more.

Ok let me explain it for you. For me the game starts at lv 80. But hey, thats just me. If i would play 3 hours a day it would take me like 2 years to get 80 farmed. Imagine at 90 and 100 cap. Ppl will quit playing the game or start botting anyway. To get lv 90 full farmed will take around the 900K sp....gl handgrinding that.



Lol @ mature replies, you're basically calling every legit a no-life. I've been playing less than 2 years, grinding 3 or less hours a day, and I started buying silk at level 50. I'm fully farmed, level 80. It took me one month from 78 -> 80, which is when I farmed just about 100k SP. You're also just assuming that everyone will bot at 90 or 100 cap, but where do you get your information? Not only that but it doesn't take 900k sp to be fully farmed at level 90. Hell for a 90 hueskal 90 fire 90 light glaive build it takes 639k SP. That's from 0->90.

Then again you're just another botter with the same mindset as the rest -> 'OMG HANDGRINDER NO LIFE!! LULZZZZ!!!!'


lawl...never said it in those words...i've been a handgrinder myself for a long time too actually. I just said: i would rather do stuff i like, like pvping, than things i dont like, like handgrinding. Dont get all freaked out about all this since im only a mere botter who dont understand a thing about this game :roll: And how do i know everyone will bot if you wanna reach lv 90 farmed? Well ok maybe i did overdo it a lil bit with the 900k sp...but then still...600K sp, how will you ever gonna farm that with hands? ok if you are diehard player you might reach it before the 100 cap comes. But then still...you worked your ass to handgrind another 500k for 100 cap :D To make it clear: i DONT blame anyone for being legit, its you own choice whether you bot or not. (Already said this several times, but some [Azilius] ppl just dont get it)

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 Post subject: Re: [UnDutchable] You can ban me ^^
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Ok let me explain it for you. For me the game starts at lv 80. But hey, thats just me. If i would play 3 hours a day it would take me like 2 years to get 80 farmed. Imagine at 90 and 100 cap. Ppl will quit playing the game or start botting anyway. To get lv 90 full farmed will take around the 900K sp....gl handgrinding that.



Lol @ mature replies, you're basically calling every legit a no-life. I've been playing less than 2 years, grinding 3 or less hours a day, and I started buying silk at level 50. I'm fully farmed, level 80. It took me one month from 78 -> 80, which is when I farmed just about 100k SP. You're also just assuming that everyone will bot at 90 or 100 cap, but where do you get your information? Not only that but it doesn't take 900k sp to be fully farmed at level 90. Hell for a 90 hueskal 90 fire 90 light glaive build it takes 639k SP. That's from 0->90.

Then again you're just another botter with the same mindset as the rest -> 'OMG HANDGRINDER NO LIFE!! LULZZZZ!!!!'


lawl...never said it in those words...i've been a handgrinder myself for a long time too actually. I just said: i would rather do stuff i like, like pvping, than things i dont like, like handgrinding. Dont get all freaked out about all this since im only a mere botter who dont understand a thing about this game :roll: And how do i know everyone will bot if you wanna reach lv 90 farmed? Well ok maybe i did overdo it a lil bit with the 900k sp...but then still...600K sp, how will you ever gonna farm that with hands? ok if you are diehard player you might reach it before the 100 cap comes. But then still...you worked your ass to handgrind another 500k for 100 cap :D To make it clear: i DONT blame anyone for being legit, its you own choice whether you bot or not. (Already said this several times, but some [Azilius] ppl just dont get it)


With powerleveling, euros and share parties, reaching '900k' sp is not hard at all. Hell about 6-7 union mates right now are at 300k SP from Ong Powerleveling after about 2 weeks, and no, not by a bot. You don't blame anyone for being legit? That doesn't make sense, sorry. If you don't like handgrinding, don't play the game, simple as that. Yea, life isn't fair, go cry about it.

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That's it. This is a Farking slow game. Quit it and join me at private server. Another 15-30x rate server will come out soon :wink:

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With powerleveling, euros and share parties, reaching '900k' sp is not hard at all. Hell about 6-7 union mates right now are at 300k SP from Ong Powerleveling after about 2 weeks, and no, not by a bot. You don't blame anyone for being legit? That doesn't make sense, sorry. If you don't like handgrinding, don't play the game, simple as that. Yea, life isn't fair, go cry about it.


Oh man, you make me laugh so hard. You're making a fool outha yourself and i recommend you not to reply anymore since ppl will see what bs your talking.
''You don't blame anyone for being legit? That doesn't make sense, sorry''Explain pls.

''If you don't like handgrinding, don't play the game, simple as that''

You are not the person i should play or not, its up to jm to say that. If they ban me, its ok. And no i dont quit the game cuz i dont like handgrinding, cuz i have a bot doing it for me.

''Yea, life isn't fair, go cry about it.''
Ehh...this part i dont really understand? Why shouldnt i appreciate life? Life is great, and yes it aint fair but i dont care. I think the sentence you wrote more goes for you since you cry about botters imo.

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That's it. This is a Farking slow game. Quit it and join me at private server. Another 15-30x rate server will come out soon :wink:

Yea i was in a private server once, it was great. But it wasnt rly fun since chinese ruled with their money bought sun+9 xD But 30x exp rate sounds interesting 8)

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With powerleveling, euros and share parties, reaching '900k' sp is not hard at all. Hell about 6-7 union mates right now are at 300k SP from Ong Powerleveling after about 2 weeks, and no, not by a bot. You don't blame anyone for being legit? That doesn't make sense, sorry. If you don't like handgrinding, don't play the game, simple as that. Yea, life isn't fair, go cry about it.


Oh man, you make me laugh so hard. You're making a fool outha yourself and i recommend you not to reply anymore since ppl will see what bs your talking.
''You don't blame anyone for being legit? That doesn't make sense, sorry''Explain pls.

''If you don't like handgrinding, don't play the game, simple as that''

You are not the person i should play or not, its up to jm to say that. If they ban me, its ok. And no i dont quit the game cuz i dont like handgrinding, cuz i have a bot doing it for me.

''Yea, life isn't fair, go cry about it.''
Ehh...this part i dont really understand? Why shouldnt i appreciate life? Life is great, and yes it aint fair but i dont care. I think the sentence you wrote more goes for you since you cry about botters imo.


Language barrier, ftl? Why would you reply..telling me not to reply. Doesn't that..ruin the point of a reply?

How am I making a fool out of myself? You're a botter in a LEGIT forum trying to justify botting. LOL

JM has rules that state no third party programs etc. Yes, the last sentence can work both ways, but I'm not telling you to not appreciate life. I'm saying it isn't fair, and you shouldn't have to resort to CHEATING to win. (yea, again it can work both ways, although you get the POINT). No point in arguing further, you have your...'views' and I have mine. Some people just don't like to follow rules it seems..

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That's it. This is a Farking slow game. Quit it and join me at private server. Another 15-30x rate server will come out soon :wink:

Yea i was in a private server once, it was great. But it wasnt rly fun since chinese ruled with their money bought sun+9 xD But 30x exp rate sounds interesting 8)

The comming server will have no donation so no buy items, no bots allowed , cap+skill lv 90, exp rate 15x, sp exp rate 30x.
Whenever it's done, i'll call u to join 8)

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That's it. This is a Farking slow game. Quit it and join me at private server. Another 15-30x rate server will come out soon :wink:

Yea i was in a private server once, it was great. But it wasnt rly fun since chinese ruled with their money bought sun+9 xD But 30x exp rate sounds interesting 8)

The comming server will have no donation so no buy items, no bots allowed , cap+skill lv 90, exp rate 15x, sp exp rate 30x.
Whenever it's done, i'll call u to join 8)

Alright, but since ill be banned in a few hours ill just send you my e-mail or msn/yahoo (if you have) so you can pm me there :) Thanks in advance

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That's it. This is a Farking slow game. Quit it and join me at private server. Another 15-30x rate server will come out soon :wink:

Yea i was in a private server once, it was great. But it wasnt rly fun since chinese ruled with their money bought sun+9 xD But 30x exp rate sounds interesting 8)

The comming server will have no donation so no buy items, no bots allowed , cap+skill lv 90, exp rate 15x, sp exp rate 30x.
Whenever it's done, i'll call u to join 8)

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Another one bites the dust...

It's funny how a lot of botters (not necessarily Undutchable - I don't know you) claim to bot because you 'have a life' but then they babysit their bot all day long.

This game is and always was meant to be a grind fest. If you can't handle that, you really shouldn't play. There are plenty of things to do in this game from lvl 1 to 79. If the 'game starts at lvl 80', then what about when the 100 cap comes? I guess then the game will start at lvl 100 :roll:

Similarly, if you can't handle weight training, working out, long hours of practice in baseball (or any sport), then don't play. Don't just pump up on steroids so you can compete with everyone else that worked hard to get where they are.

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I really wonder why botters (not just the topicstarter) think that legits don't have a life. I'm legit, well my char is still 60 but still good, and i know for sure i still celebrate life.. BTW i'm having fun ingame and in real life. LEGITS still has a life my friend..

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