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 Post subject: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:52 pm 
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Can you debuff (Division, Impotent...) someone who have Holy Spell on?

Can you freeze burn or poison him? Whats about dull?

Oh and what is the utility of Innocent and Integrity if this skill already stops all the status?


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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:03 pm 
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Holy Word/Spell protects from most statuses, including Weaken, Division, Decay, and Impotent. It also protects from elemental effects like Burn, Poison, Frostbite, and Shock, and even those usually uncurable things like Bleed and Dull. It can't protect from Disease (since Disease comes from the Vampire Touch/Kiss Warlock skill and is always a level higher than Holy Word), Panic, or Stun. I'm not sure if it can stop Bind and Fear though. It basically makes Integrity useless because prevention is better than having to cure status effects.

EDIT: All of this is assuming that you are fighting someone of the same level degree. If you are 42 and someone is 52, they will probably have skills that overwhelm Holy Word's ability to nullify status effects. But if someone shoots with you with a level 2x Cold Wave skill, you will get a nice little Resist ^^

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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Advancechao wrote:
Holy Word/Spell protects from most statuses, including Weaken, Division, Weaken, and Impotent. It also protects from elemental effects like Burn, Poison, Frostbite, and Shock, and even those usually uncurable things like Bleed and Dull. It can't protect from Disease, Panic, or Stun. I'm not sure if it can stop Bind and Fear though. It basically makes Integrity useless because prevention is better than having to cure status effects.


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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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warlocks can give you status effects through dots. I guess because it hits you from the inside? O.o so integrity is still useful

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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Poison from a Dagger Rogue will still make it on. Also he said Weaken twice but I think he meant say Decay, Weaken is Magical Def Lower Decay is Phy.

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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It can't protect from Disease,

It protects from disease, but disease is always lvl higher than holy word :S

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Poison from a Dagger Rogue will still make it on.

Rogue has passive which makes effect of poison higher, so holy word doesnt protect that much.


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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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Nitrozz wrote:
I really like you're answers :D You're really helpful member of SRF :)


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Poison from a Dagger Rogue will still make it on. Also he said Weaken twice but I think he meant say Decay, Weaken is Magical Def Lower Decay is Phy.


Yeah, I meant Decay :P I'm used to saying Weaken because it's one of the first Warlock debuffs and I've been spamming it for the past twenty levels (but I deleveled Physical Raze to 0 because it's useless).

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Physical Raze is not useless if you're in a party with some (good) warriors. It helps them to kill the mobs faster. But you usually don't get invited in a party as warlock :(

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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MaSeL wrote:
Physical Raze is not useless if you're in a party with some (good) warriors. It helps them to kill the mobs faster. But you usually don't get invited in a party as warlock :(


That's the thing. Division includes both Magical and Physical defense and does its job much better. And in a good party, you could care less about a warrior's damage because they should be using Vital Increase. Weaken is much better for the nukers and wizards in the party. Because you are only allowed to put three debuffs on a target at once, I choose Weaken, Division, and Impotent.

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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holy word also prevents warlocks slumber...well not sure about same lvl but im pretty sure the person i used it on in pvp was same level


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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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What does the dull effect do exactly?

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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What does the dull effect do exactly?

Didnt it prevent you from attack for a couple of seconds?

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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Dull slows down the enemies movement and attack speed.

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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Dull is useful against Chinese without the expensive pills, even if it doesn't last the full 20seconds, it can be a lifesaver.

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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The animation with dull is slower, but the dmg comes just as fast...So its not that usefull.

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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Advancechao wrote:
I'm not sure if it can stop Bind and Fear though. It basically makes Integrity useless because prevention is better than having to cure status effects.


This is where integrity comes in, you can use integrity to cure yourself of Bind, Fear, Trap pretty much anything other than stun.

Dull is also useful for certain warrior class skills, doubles the damage for the following moves

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double stab and cunning stab

2hand
charge swing and triple swing

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dual counter and deadly counter

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 Post subject: Re: What status does Holy Spell really protect from?
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Disagree about dull issues.

Dull is useful - eg. A blader can stab up to 3 times without dull, but with dull it can only stab once, or at most twice. Also, in a glavier vs glavier fight, whoever gets dull first will stand a higher chance of losing unless you get hella lotsa crits. Say Glavier A is hitting 5 skills within 5 - 6 seconds, while glaiver B with dull status hits 3 kills within same timeframe, get what I mean?

If you wanna understand dull better, get a warrior to thrash you or get a high lvl player use a lvl 1 spear and give you dull. Trust me you don like dull when you're pvping. Anyway, I believe damage increase in warrior does not comes from dull, but rather increase through knockdown damage. (need confirmation)


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