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People who care about others botting in an FPS: 99.99%

People who care about others botting in SRO: what, 10% or less?

hmm.
You Can't Compare Them.

Failed, you know why? You used CS as a point. Some strategy camping dust with a sniper rifle lol. Move on...

cs = nothing new ever. same weapons, usually same basic maps, same spam points, same camp points, same nubs crying "HAXXOR"

sro = new skills, new locations, different jobs, differnt builds, same nubs crying "BOTTZORZ"

There's all sorts of rule breaking. Petty crimes to big time crimes. Depending on what crime you do is the given punishment following.

Botting is at around the top with the big crimes. You're cheating through a grind game. Using boredom as an excuse is a horrible excuse at it. If you don't like the grinding, then the game wasn't developed for your tastes. A game of chess requires a lot of thinking. But, thinking is boring! Let's get to the fighting! Let's take out some pieces!

It's not whether I'm comparing Chess to Silkroad, it's comparing the similarities. When you remove one big aspect of the game, might as well not play at all.

When it comes to cheating the unfair, we should not favor or discriminate because you're ugly or beautiful, you should be removed for destroying.

lmao, u obviously know so much about cs if i was gonna take pointers from a pub star all the time, i'd still be pwning noobs at dust2.

point is, u'r using a bot to help u play a big part of the game. u'r using a bot to level for u, u'r using aimbot to shoot for u. same ..... thing. it doesn't help the gameplay one bit.

ppl that want to reach cap and pvp all day need to go play smash bros or some shit. sro has other things besides pvp that contribute to the overall experience. we were all perfectly fine at the beginning, everyone hand grinding to lvl 60, having loads of fun. legit drama ftw. then when ..... pissants brought bots to the community, they ruined a great game.

Here you see most of a forum that cares. THat may be less than 10%. Who cares? Botters can go to their own forums.

Does it matter if they did? And what does it matter what you say? You have shown yourself to be a hypocrite. Pretty much makes anything you say questionable.

Cheating is cheating is cheating. It does not matter if you like cheating in one game or not it is cheating. Nothing you can say can make it not cheating. No matter how much you and others try to justify it. You can't re define it. Frankly I am interested to know what your and others vested interest is in pushing this topic. You clearly feel you have something to gain from it otherwise you would not be so incessant in pushing it. LOL I know what it is I am sure. You are still in the closet afraid to come out. The crazy machinations you people go through to quell your own doubts. It is truly funny.

hmmm first off... Thank You. I asked why they just didnt move it and I was told there were other post like it.

In my observation as a new member I been reading and I see a lot of things on SRF that relate to real life in a way and it is kinda strange how things never change.

For instance,

The white reacist hates blacks, but, will exploit them for their own gain, Not to mention sleep with them. Good for one thing and not the other?

The so called "legits" say follow the rules, but pick and choose which ones suit them and if any questions come up about it, well they start with the noob and other selevt name calling, such as children do. But they fail to realise that people are seeing their true colors.

Sure some slur will now come and I can guess the first ones to say them to me regarding my post. I am sure most people oin here while reading this can in their mind pick out who the next few post will be from in regards to this post. Kinda sad.

You know, I do not care how someone plays this game, I decided to comment because the elite few on here need a cause to fight for and they decide in their efforts that they are better than everyone else. When in fact they are hypocrits, When one of theirs goes down with proof they will bend over backwards to say no the proof isnt good enough, the screen shots are not new enough etc etc. But then you got one like me who comes on and speaks their mind and automaticly I am accused of making a new account after being banned! When in fact I chose to just now start responding to the post. Why? Just read some of the post to follow this one and you will see why (refering to the accusations and name calling that will follow).

Sure the Admin and Mods make the rules. But the fact that remains is that the admins and mods did not build this forum, the visitors did, the people you called friends and the people you are starting to ban. I even read post saying how sad people were cus they are going to miss someone cus they are leaving cus they used a bot. Now that is sad. So much for friendship. It says so much about the so called "Legits" when they are ready to ban friendly people who have somethign to offer, just because someone out lvld them or used a program to level up, or bought gold, or bought silk or what ever the legit cause is this week. In the big picture of Silk Road, this is Kindergarten, time to graduate folks, step up and let people be people and enjoy the times. This little war will get you no place but some dead forums.

Sure the traffic is great now, too bad your not earning good money from it. But like a flash flood, The main Hit is strong and powerfulm but whats left behind, Garbage and destruction. Enjoy it while you can, just know you keep pushing your so called friends away, its gonna be a lonely forums....

Now let the name calling start and the flames... whos the first... can you guess? let me know if you were right.

the mods and admins of this forum have stated countless times that they are not associated with JM and it's ToS in any way. the srf admins made their own rules according to what they felt would benefit the members. I see the rules as a code of conduct to follow in game as well, as many of the points made in the rules work well with in game guilds. the reason that pk2 and certain other minor activities are allowed by srf is because they do not harm the playerbase in any way. they do not crowd the server and they do not interfere in the enjoyment of the players. "immoral" acts like stripping accounts and scamming are perfectly legal as they do not require additional assistance from 3rd party programs, nor do they abuse major glitches in the game.

the rules have been there since the creation of srf. srf has always been an anti-bot forum. it's just over time that many botters have integrated themselves within the legit community because of the "don't ask don't tell" policy many people practiced.

you say that when someone like u comes on here and voice ur opinion, u get spat at. u must realize that the internet is full of immature babies intent on causing psychological harm in any way possible? srf is a public forum that neone with half a brain can register for. sure, u got a couple of bad replies, but u also got many supporters that believed in what u wrote. also, when u see an account that was made in feb 08, exactly when the bot bannings started, u can't blame people for being wary, because many banned botters have created new accounts.

the "elite" are not few, they are many. u see these carebears making new topics every 5 secs and u immediately assume that the majority of srf do not like this new affirmative action against bots. this is a legit community. while some botters have sneaked their way in, the majority of the posters are still legit. the cause we fight for is to rid this legit community of botters who do not deserve to post here. while many botters have proved themselves to be respectful and generous, they still kick every legit in the crotch everytime they choose to bot their character. we take up this cause so vehemently because for too long have we had to stand there and watch botters ruining servers and holding their heads up high, undeserving of their high lvl ranks. without bots, the majority of the botters would still be in their 4x and 5x, feeling the pressures of hand grinding. many of them would have quit if not for botting.

hypocrites? people throw that word out too freely. how do u know what goes on with the mods and admins? just because it takes time for them to study a certain individual does not mean that they won't take the right actions eventually. the section has only been up for 2 days. and of course, when friends are accused, it's only natural that friends protect friends. they will fight for them even in the face of undeniable proof. friendship does not end when someones gets kicked outta srf. u'r right, it does say a lot when legits ban good botters from the forums, it shows we have what it takes to rid our community of cheaters. those botters will be replaced by legits that will have something else to offer.

u tell us to grow up, to see the big picture. we already do. we see that silkroad is a bot infested game, where people who deserve a spot in the game can not join, where legits receive no help from JM. we see the injustice, and we are finally rising up and hitting back.

Failed x2, you know why? He forgot to mention that SRO is a free game. CS and SC are not.

Seriously though, if JM could care less about it, even though you do, what progress do you hope to have? If your goal is to rid bots, the forum is not the place, you know what makes a company stand up and notice? DO damage to their income. You ban botters from SRF, why not take your fight to the websites of gold sellers and bot sellers, why not confront them and put the pressure on JM why not boycott JM and the gold companies?
1. Legits stop buying silk and gold. Make a united stand, if its ok to buy gold and silk then you will NEVER make a dent in it.
2. Stop Promoting SRO. Stop sending people their way. Promote some other game.
3. Stop Playing, SRO can not survive with 100% bots.
4. Take all fortress in all servers and keep them, prove your point that legits are better players.

choose any of them. write a blog, write JM day in and day out, call em day in and day out, email them 1000 times a day. if there are so many legits then mass email them, theu will notice.

Good for you all that you are taking a stand but seriously, unless you get JM attention and that of the gold sellers/buyers then your just pissing in the wind.

If it is legits that make SRO fun, then boycott it and no one will have fun and they will leave. they leave JM says Oh crap Epic Boo Boo.

cuz a game being free suddenly changes the meaning of cheating? lmao.


getting rid of bots ingame is futile. it's not even debatable. it's too far gone, and JM, being the only thing that can get rid of bots, is busy afking themselves. what we're talking about is on srf, we can get rid of botters. we don't want them here. we want new users to know that botters aren't tolerated here. we want an anti-bot atmosphere, legit pride, botters suck etc.

1. it's never ok to buy gold. many legits have already stopped buying silk. as for united stand, srf is just a small portion of the playerbase, legit and otherwise. and many legits still want to play, so they buy prem.
2. kinda hard when this is the silkroad forums
3. again, srf represents a small portion of the player base
4. that is do-able. great idea actually.

Uh... Thank You. But, this doesn;t mean we are going steady does it?

Having this anti-bot atmosphere really going to change the game in any way? Having Legit pride is good and all but going on a rampage and banning peoples accounts really isnt going to change a thing IMO

oh baby, we've been going steady, i think we're ready for the next step

we can only hope that as more people pass by srf, they'll see that botting is not the way to go. as far as ingame is concerned, botters will keep botting.

Wow this is one of the most tangential straw man arguments I have seen in a long time. There is no comparison between botting and racism. You can't choose what race etc you are born. Botting is a choice. So what was your point exactly?

Oh and on your comment about your so called "do as I say not as I do" attitude you "claim" legits have. This is just your perception/justification as a botter / bot supporter. Someone does not do something to your satisfaction and you start yelling "hypocrite" or "double standards". Can you show an instance where equal proof was shown and over a reasonable time different or non equal punishments were applied? Further can you show a pattern that cannot be explained in any way other than hypocritical favoritism? I honestly don't expect you to take the time to look. You are just one of several bot / bot supporters crying wolf looking for attention. Though if you can prove me wrong I would be interested to see.



Sad is it? Nah the sad part is that you posted this pointless diatribe here to provoke just that response. You are not doing anything constructive on game or here. So what exactly do you believe you get out of this?



Generic botter / bot supporter comment you have there.



It is nothing that was decided. We are in fact better than the botters with regards to that being discussed. It is just the very definition of us. We follow the rules and desire nothing more really than to see them upheld and play the game as intended. Where on the other hand you and the botters don't give a shit about the rules and get pissy any time someone throws them in your face. Seems pretty straight forward there.



Ouch a hypocrite calls "all" legits hypocrites. Nah wait that really holds no sting. You sling the H word around a lot. Where is your proof.



Lets see a forum mod is banned upon thurrough video proof and you are getting pissy that your pet grudge did not get baned because they didn't want to risk your screen shots being photoshopped. You do know that screen shots do not now or have not at any time constituted any real quality proof. They can be easily editied and altered. And they are not something you really want to base a case on.

Oh and by the way the reason you are getting grief is wholly understandable. You create an account simply to cry that things are not being done to your satisfaction. You expect to make friends with an attitude like that? Just curious. You offer no real suggestions other than to "accept the botters". Sorry that is un-acceptable.



You make a very poor martyr.



Blah blah blah. Rules are rules. These people knew the rules coming in here. It is not as if they did not know this was an anti-bot forum. It always has been. They knew the stigma. They knew that many would not approve. They knew they had to be closeted to be here. They were only lying to themselves. And you act as if being banned from these forums is going to kill friendships. I have friends that have botted and are banned from here. Guess what we are still friends and I don't blame the mods or the admins. My friends deserved it under the rules. It was fair. It is not a case of the big bad mean legits Vs the poor innocent botters. Really, come on here.



Dead forums for a dead game? Seems a good match. Now let me tell you a little something. You play a console RPG and cheat it effects no one but you. You play a single player FPS or RTS and cheat it effects no one but you. You play an MMO and cheat and it effects everyone who plays it you jerk. I liked to play SRO. It is a good game based on a great concept. I can't play it anymore due to people like you and the people you enable. I can't Farking train anywhere effectively without having to deal with your god damned ksing bots. I can't afford alot of things I should be able to with the money I get from grinding a reasonable amount of time due to the fact that many of your friends are running 10-20 gold bots each or buying lots of gold to artificially inflate the economy and clog the server with wasted slots. I can go on. Want me to? Go ahead tell me why I should not be pissed that you, your friends, and those you enable ruin my experience. Tell me please. This is a god damn "MMO" other people play this too. You don't have to love them. You don't have to like them. But you should try to respect them. Though if you disrespect me in that way you can be sure I probably will not like you even a little. You talk about stepping up and letting people be people but you and your kind will not do that yourself. And you expect us to? Hypocrite!



LOL don't push this off on us. Funny how you guys can't be bothered to give 2 shits about us. But when "your botting friends" are on the line you come out guns blazing. Double standard much? This game is dead no matter what we do. I know botters that are leaving SRO because of how bad it has gotten. Guess what. They are playing other games legitimatly with me.



You were the first with tangential straw man comparison equating all of us to racists. Or if that is not good enough you were the first to call hypocracy without any proof. I win now gimme my cookie fool!

Kay, common sense really. Obviously the world's problems are of a much greater importance than any sro bot vs legit argument here.

But then again, why do we play this game? because we want to escape from reality for those few hours a day or week we play.
Yea, it's good to keep it in mind, world hunger and violence are big issues... but if arguing over bots and legits is what these sro'ers need! in order to take a breather from the hardships we all face in real life.

Then I say let them.

Wow seems I killed the debate. I thought for sure knightress would have a snappy comeback. Oh well.

Well said. Also, Ping-Lo and TOloseGT, what you have said is the complete truth.

And about all these bot-support topics? It's good, since we know they are feeling so guilty inside that they burst out to justify their doings. Keep on the War and Im sure the results will be nice! ^^

I agree with a few on both sides here but once again the point only 1 person and no mods have answered yet are -

Gold Buying
P-lvl by a bot

I had a friend that post on silkroad site all the time talking about how legit he is but yet ask people who he knows bot to power level him. He says "well i don't bot" but still - not legit.

How can you really pick and choose between the rules and decide which ones you think are right and wrong. Rules are rules. If you do any of these to make you have an unfair advantage you are just as wrong as anyone.

certain rules can be wrong.

Thankfully this is not that case here. Joymax was rather clear here. No botting no gold selling. If your P-LVL involves a bot you are contributing to rule violations whether or not you are the one running it. In the real world this is a slippery slope situation. Powerleveling is legitimate. If you have someone actually there doing it for you then there is no issue. But that is rarely the case. Everyone wants to get powerleveled. No one wants to train. So most everyone either bots outright or tries to hide it going. "But it was not me I was just in party with one. I swear I didn't do anything or kill any mobs even." In the real world if a friend has drugs and he is in your car. If you get pulled over you are all going to jail. Same difference. Now on gold buying well on a F2P games the operating profit tends to be lean so the companies need to control as much of the revenue generated as possible. So as a general rule they disallow all external economic transactions. That is strictly from a business point. Now frankly if someone through hard work had gotten a lot of gold they were not using. And they wanted to sell it to a friend well then that is not so bad. You can be nearly 100% sure though that in silkroad that will never happen. Know all those gold bots you complain about? The ones that clog the server? They are there for you. To farm the gold you buy. So from a non business point of view selling gold is bad well..... because of gold botting etc.

The rules are clear. The rules are correct. Ask any mod or admin and they will agree 100% with this. This has always been the stance from day 1 hour 1 second 1. The fact that you don't know this means that you are either new to online gaming etc or not being truthful.

I usually read and not post...
ping_lo was saying:

I agree that's the problem Knightress doesn't get. One of the 'M' in mmorpg stands for 'multiplayer', obviously it affects others. If you cheat in a single player game, who cares! That's the difference.
However, JM is really to take the load of the blame; if they put more effort to enforce these 'rules' then there wouldn't even be a discussion about all this.

well its hard to explain but i rather have some compensation for my hard work (selling account) rather than keeping to joymax rules
they never gave me any service i demanded so why cant i sell my char?
i agree with you on the botting part, but if the gold i am selling has been received by hard work (stalling not botting) why not?

if people never questioned rules then the world would be a farked up place

Cheating? Who said anything about cheating? See that's what's wrong with you people. lmao.

Hey, these are somet pro-active suggestions. May i also suggest protesting on facebook? Not sure if you people know the hugh protest (in real life) that was staged through facebook in Colombia against kidnappings from terrorists?
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/millions-march-against-colombian-rebel-group/2008/02/05/1202090418911.html

Even worse, if people never followed rules then the world would be an even more farked up place.

But seriously, read what you posted again. Can you hear your own sense of entitlement? Do you realize what you sound like? A spoiled, selfish baby acting like the victim while you blindly shit on others. Not very mature.

its hard for me to explain it.
its true that when people "never" follow the rules that this world would be a farked up place but i am glad some of them did not follow "certain" rules and made a positive change for us all.
it would be selfish if i choose to drawback instead of sell my char.

Um... hes prolley still reading it.

Hopefully this isnt a bot supporting comment, I d hate to be labeled here.

Did you read this thread or just skim through? You need some glasses m8?