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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:32 pm 
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100 bow 100 fire and light/ice mix
100 bow/fire/ice
or 100 bow light/ice

the one with the light ice mix deals the most damage.

wouldnt go full int.
at least more str than a 1:7 hybrid

you can easily kill light/ice builds while wearing garm, ceach bow attack damage is nuke worthy, if not even stronger.

the only reason i think str hybrid bowers are better all around is because of the 3 crit enhancing attacks minimizing the damage loss compared to an int build.
still for fort wars the int bow is really savage,
2 mind bows clear up all the wizards/bards or the wizards who didnt buff quick enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:49 pm 
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jyushinshuu wrote:
weanLsyc wrote:
btw. back to the topic

Have you got any proofs that Full Int bower pwns in PvP?

One statement of a Full Int bower on my server was :

Full Int bower suck in PvP but they are PvM kings.


You Sir, don't know anything.
If you have character passed level 95 then come back here and tell your experience


I have a Full INT spear nuker lvl 101 and a wizard lvl 99. My nuker weared in 100cap s/s and I've played like every build yet exept Warrior/Rogue and Full INT bower.

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:57 pm 
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
wouldnt go full int.
at least more str than a 1:7 hybrid

you can easily kill light/ice builds while wearing garm, each bow attack damage is nuke worthy, if not even stronger.

the only reason i think str hybrid bowers are better all around is because of the 3 crit enhancing attacks minimizing the damage loss compared to an int build.


Isn't it only 2 skills that have the crit increase? ...must've been a typo...lol

Anti-Devil (crit 250%)
Arrow Combo (kb x%)
Hawk (phy attk / AR increase)
Autumn Arrow (small AoE 250%)
Explosion Arrow (AR increase / HR decrease / burn chance 350%)
Break Heaven Arrow (range increase)
Strongbow (range increase / crit 350%)
Mind bow (AoE x%)


but yea...the 2 350% skills hit as hard as nukes if not harder (crit) ... and I've pvp'd a few chinese ints my lvl range, though I wouldn't say they had the full pros / cons to their build ... like switching to shield when snow's down, or using fire wall ...though for the most part, the ones that didn't know me when I was s/s, I think thought I was a str...like putting up a frostwall when their snow's down, lol....though, it's not that hard to figure I'm an int when I'm using lightning imbue and the 50% snow shield ...lols

It's a decent build...you just gotta know when to kb, like when they're trying to nuke / stun || kd / kb || debuff / status me ...it's nice to phantom to get out of their range ...it's more of a wait till their snow's down to just 1 hit them, unless they're a s/s and they got impotent on me ...lol

but there's 3 builds I have / would have the most difficulty with, those being: warrior / cleric (that know how to pvp), warrior / warlock, and rogue / warlock (not a lot of warrior || rogue / warlocks on venus that are my lvl range) ...oh and bladers, but that's more in killing them than tanking ...

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:58 pm 
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Its a good build...It wasn't a good build 3+ years ago. KB, STun and snow has given this build some hope and the grinding is fun.

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 5:22 pm 
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i'd do it on a private servers, one of the best builds (logically speaking ofc)

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:44 pm 
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Ok heres what i made, im just doing this cause im bored of makin common builds.

I took Full int Bow/Ice/Force, wearing garmet. Ill try my best to make this build shine to dose ho said int bowers suck.


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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:24 pm 
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Awesome choice, why don't you make a pure int rogue instead? Good luck... cold/force... :palm:


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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:02 pm 
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Ningyotsukai-san wrote:
Isn't it only 2 skills that have the crit increase? ...must've been a typo...lol


well i used to utilize the 2 last anti devil arrows so i had 3 crit enhancing attacks
strong bow first,explosion, then the 2 antidevils to bridge the gap
antidevils crit as much as a strong bow critless and are quick
(strong bow as a fcking wall breaker, the antidevil arrows for just about enough damage on wizards that were in need of a quick timeout by death)

explosion arrow series 350%
yeah it hits hard, but its more like a finisher after bitchslapping someone into stun with strongbow, takes slightly longer than the antidevil, but the attack rating+ bit still counts for max damage, although not as strongly as crit enhancement

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Awesome choice, why don't you make a pure int rogue instead? Good luck... cold/force... :palm:



what this forum lacks is elaboration

failed sarcasm
not a valid comparison...
chinese make use of both int and str unlike euros...

and as a mere experiment,it'd have all that an int build needs

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ice(interruptions and slowing the opponent down)
snow shield(damage absorbt.)
phys. defence(to make up for the lack of it obviously)

debuffs to amplify damage and more mp to tank more with snow.
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but
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lacks speed or mag. attack+ (but the force makes up for the damage).
lack of overall defence(when not equipping a shield)
lack of hp
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i'd hate going against such a cold/force,as a chinese
(especially when not immune)
though heuksal would seem better at this point for more hp

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:07 pm 
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it's been said that, europeans are the ones that should go pure, chinese hybrid, the explanation for that is that europeans only benefit, either from the strenghth force, or magic force, in terms of offensive power, chinese benefit from both


SO YEAH

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:53 pm 
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1.Lacks speed or mag. attack+ (but the force makes up for the damage).
2.Lack of overall defence(when not equipping a shield)
3.Lack of hp
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1 = Speed drugs + debuffs from force
2 = Freeze + ice shield + stun + knock back
3 = +1 (Just kill before you quet killed)


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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 5:23 am 
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IceCrash wrote:
it's been said that, europeans are the ones that should go pure, chinese hybrid, the explanation for that is that europeans only benefit, either from the strenghth force, or magic force, in terms of offensive power, chinese benefit from both


SO YEAH

I've always thought pretty similar to that, altho I am a big fan of chinese pure int, so fun to grind xD

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 Post subject: Re: Full int chinise BOW
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 3:31 pm 
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The way I see it is if a pure int sword and shield can do well then so can a pure int bow. Bow got KB which can be equatable to a SS KD. Not to mention bow got Stun too and along with ice makes the build a little better. But like I said earlier this build is definitely a support class and fun PVE build.

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