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 Post subject: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 5:50 pm 
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Hey. I am making a hybrid sword character. The character will basically be a combination of blader and nuker, but I was wondering if I should make it 1:1 or 70%-70%. I've tried to calculate how the character would look with 1:1 at level 90 (nivlaM), and I will have 74% Phy, 62% Mag.

The main damage dealing skills will be Bicheon, supported by fire nukes. The weapon will be a sword (NOT A BLADE).
The Masteries will be Bicheon, Fire and Lightning, and the imbue will be fire

With the 1:1 build I will get the same amount of hp and mp, but is it worth the 4% extra Physical Balance, or should I make it 70-70 instead?


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:29 pm 
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just do it, no one here really knows since they have never seen it before :wink: and I think you should do 70:70

they will tell you it sucks btw

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Disconn3cted wrote:
just do it, no one here really knows since they have never seen it before :wink: and I think you should do 70:70

they will tell you it sucks btw


Had guessed that one :P

I am also 99% sure that I will take 70-70 to get a balanced damage output =P


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:04 pm 
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U'll get pwn by a nuker ice IMO. 1 nuke + ghost spear = half of a pure str HP = GG for u
1 Strongbow crit = GG too

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:11 pm 
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YOU CAN DO IT !!!!

go spear with it :) use snow shield and just weapon skill. huk will give you some extra hp passive to survive and your weapon damage + imbue will be strong enough to kill others by the time your snow shield is gone. against int nukers use fan spear or whatever as much as you can to raise magical def. wear protector. good luck :)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:21 pm 
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YOU CAN DO IT !!!!

go spear with it :) use snow shield and just weapon skill. huk will give you some extra hp passive to survive and your weapon damage + imbue will be strong enough to kill others by the time your snow shield is gone. against int nukers use fan spear or whatever as much as you can to raise magical def. wear protector. good luck :)

He didnt say he use Ice and Heuksal so u cant have manashield and fan spear ~.~

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U'll get pwn by a nuker ice IMO. 1 nuke + ghost spear = half of a pure str HP = GG for u
1 Strongbow crit = GG too


I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.

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Disconn3cted wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
U'll get pwn by a nuker ice IMO. 1 nuke + ghost spear = half of a pure str HP = GG for u
1 Strongbow crit = GG too


I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.


yeah +1, even low HP 1:5 and 1:7 cant be kill with 2 moves...not to talk about 70:70 and 1:1 since the have more HP..and snow shield(if u get the ice)...and shield..and KD^^

the dmg is higher than blader but lower than int hybrid. Maybe bich/light/FORCE will help:P


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Disconn3cted wrote:
I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.


How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?

And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...

Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
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Philip wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.


How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?

And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...

Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^


It will be a little bit higher than pure str but not by a lot

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Philip wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.


How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?

And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...

Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^


If it's not meant to be moreso a tank, why go so hybrid? The dmg will be pretty low, the nukes esp. w/ sword will be a little on the low end of the scale.

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_Scarlett_ wrote:
Philip wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.


How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?

And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...

Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^


If it's not meant to be moreso a tank, why go so hybrid? The dmg will be pretty low, the nukes esp. w/ sword will be a little on the low end of the scale.


What I ment was that it is not supposed to become a pure tank, not being able to kill anything itself...


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:23 pm 
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70:70 (213:272 str:int) ~
Max blues (normal | prem+)

HP: 18,405 | 18,988
MP: 21,843 | 22,426
phy bal: 82% | 84%
mag bal: 88% | 91%


1:1 ~
Max blues (normal | prem+ )

HP: 20,095 | 20,678
MP: 20,153 | 20,736
phy bal: 87% | 89%
mag bal: 81% | 83%

Looking at the balances alone, it seems you'll deal better damage with the 70:70 using a sword than you would going with the 1:1 (more phy based).

Anyways, best of luck with whichever you choose ^.^

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:10 am 
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Ningyotsukai-san wrote:
70:70 (213:272 str:int) ~
Max blues (normal | prem+)

HP: 18,405 | 18,988
MP: 21,843 | 22,426
phy bal: 82% | 84%
mag bal: 88% | 91%


1:1 ~
Max blues (normal | prem+ )

HP: 20,095 | 20,678
MP: 20,153 | 20,736
phy bal: 87% | 89%
mag bal: 81% | 83%

Looking at the balances alone, it seems you'll deal better damage with the 70:70 using a sword than you would going with the 1:1 (more phy based).

Anyways, best of luck with whichever you choose ^.^


Ok, thank you very much for these calculations :D
I will try 70:70


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:09 am 
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and i would suggest concentrating on the sword skills and ditch nuking.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
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interesting:p taking nuke mean more farming. become a pure swordmaster with this build.

but then again, fire should max imbue damage..i think the build with shield can put down snow shield..rite?


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alZen wrote:
and i would suggest concentrating on the sword skills and ditch nuking.


Will the Bicheon ranged skill get strong enough to be an opening damage attack?


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:53 pm 
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go 90 fire 90 bich 60 cold 60 light. You'll need all the fire dmg and you can sacrifice 13% from 90 mana to 60 mana shield due to your high HP amount. Also means less farming. Only problem you're going to have is killing people with the build....you'll need a lot of strategy. Bladers depend on crits but the 70:70 will not crit as hard as a blader, yet will nuke less than a nuker. I'd be interested to see this build in pvp...

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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:28 pm 
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go 90 fire 90 bich 60 cold 60 light. You'll need all the fire dmg and you can sacrifice 13% from 90 mana to 60 mana shield due to your high HP amount. Also means less farming. Only problem you're going to have is killing people with the build....you'll need a lot of strategy. Bladers depend on crits but the 70:70 will not crit as hard as a blader, yet will nuke less than a nuker. I'd be interested to see this build in pvp...


Would I loose too much if I didn't take it? (Mana Shield)


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
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I have the same question. I'm making a S/S BUILD but I'm thinking of using a blade instead of a sword.


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 Post subject: Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
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70:70 is better off with Spear or Bow, Imo.

This is my favorite. I might switch to this instead of Blader because Theory says the build is better for stealing.

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plz report back ur build at higher level if u continuing the build :D


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muyo wrote:
plz report back ur build at higher level if u continuing the build :D


Ok :D
I am level 13 at the moment on Venus on this build, farming with 6-gap XD..


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