screenshots of private messages?

Innovacious · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 2446 **Location:**

since apparently the only person who can see them is the person who sent/recieved its just the same as word of mouth. Its so easy to modify a screenshot

the colour of the text and the text allignment is a little bit off but i wasnt really trying that hard, this is just an example, and if i didnt say that you probably wouldnt have noticed it was off anyway

just a friendly warning that you cant believe everything you see in a screenshot

Twist · **Posted:** Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:55 am

Lawl SG,damn you,and all i wanted was naked pics of you!*snif snif

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:56 am

Or

Save page -> View source code -> Edit -> Save

Innovacious · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 2446 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

Or

Save page -> View source code -> Edit -> Save

hmm, didnt think about that one *goes off an makes another screenshot of NuclearSilo admitting*

lol, j/k

StealMySoda · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 5245 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

Or

Save page -> View source code -> Edit -> Save

Exactly why I ask for the whole screenshot, not just the web page.

Ryoko · **Joined:** Dec 2005 **Posts:** 6390 **Location:**

You can still edit it.

Should be dimissed imo.

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:17 pm

yes, SSes of private messages should definitely not be admitted as evidence.

Rush4Life · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 408 **Location:**

for a few seconds I thought the screenshot was real, and if it was real, I would have been so pissed, becuase SG banned me for 7days for 3th pt software.

Priam · **Posted:** Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:58 pm

Rush4Life wrote:

for a few seconds I thought the screenshot was real, and if it was real, I would have been so pissed, becuase SG banned me for 7days for 3th pt software.

which you then, totally deserved, andlost all right to complain.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:58 pm

^and ur still using it?

Ryoko · **Joined:** Dec 2005 **Posts:** 6390 **Location:**

If your allowed SS's of PM's....

Attachment:

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StuckUP · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1315 **Location:**

roflmao is that a fckin for real.

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:20 am

StuckUP wrote:

roflmao is that a fckin for real.

no. it's a fake designed to illustrate how easy it is to falsify screenshots of forum content.

Mage Pker · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1102 **Location:**

SuicideGrl wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

roflmao is that a fckin for real.

no. it's a fake designed to illustrate how easy it is to falsify screenshots of forum content.

ok so u only accept things u see ingame only now? how can u tell if the person ingame is the same as the person on forums, i can say any botter ingame is anyone from SRF......

a cpl of ppl have been banned from PM's so are u unbanning them?

edit: its not hard to edit ingame chats either, so wat evidence will be accepted? videos of the char botting? lol

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:06 am

Mage Pker wrote:

SuicideGrl wrote:

StuckUP wrote:

roflmao is that a fckin for real.

no. it's a fake designed to illustrate how easy it is to falsify screenshots of forum content.

ok so u only accept things u see ingame only now? how can u tell if the person ingame is the same as the person on forums, i can say any botter ingame is anyone from SRF......

a cpl of ppl have been banned from PM's so are u unbanning them?

edit: its not hard to edit ingame chats either, so wat evidence will be accepted? videos of the char botting? lol

it's at our discretion. period.

Mage Pker · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1102 **Location:**

Quote:

it's at our discretion. period.

ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:05 am

Mage Pker wrote:

Quote:

it's at our discretion. period.

ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.

it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>

<sorry Ryoko, i think i said too much :P>

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

SuicideGrl wrote:

Mage Pker wrote:

Quote:

it's at our discretion. period.

ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.

it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>

<sorry Ryoko, i think i said too much

>

Thats illegal in 47 states you know.......

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:26 am

ThisIsAvalon wrote:

:shock: :shock: Thats illegal in 47 states you know.......

thankfully we lie safely out of the jurisdiction of ALL of them ;)

just... don't mention this to anyone, k? thx.

Ryoko · **Joined:** Dec 2005 **Posts:** 6390 **Location:**

Mage Pker wrote:

Quote:

it's at our discretion. period.

ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.

Awe someone you like banned?

Someone you dislike didnt get banned?

/tissue :cry:

If I was playing favorites, luoma would be reinstated. Even better.

non ego man · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:45 pm

SuicideGrl wrote:

Mage Pker wrote:

ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.

it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>

Of the approximately ten billion trillion responses to Mage Pker, you chose the best. Amazing skillz. I'm in awe.

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

I agree it's definitely easy to modify screenshots, even if you post a picture of your entire desktop. Perhaps video can be modified as well.

One suggestion I've been thinking about: since much of the evidence people post could theoretically be altered, maybe it would make more sense to give the accused a temporary ban, say 7-14 days, then have someone on the mod team log onto the accused's server to check them out. If the accusation can't be proven in that time, the ban would be lifted. If so, perma-ban.

Maybe that's overkill just to identify botters and protect the innocent for the forums, but it's just an idea. Perhaps just log in to check people out when there are legitimate reasons to suspect evidence.

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:46 pm

non ego man wrote:

SuicideGrl wrote:

Mage Pker wrote:

ahh i see, atleast u admit that your picking favorites. thanks.

it's actually done based on an advanced analytical equation that requires all the power the SRF server can muster... takes all 30+ of the forum staff all entering commands at once. if we get it right, then the botter gets banned. but if someone falls asleep or something (takes a REALLY long time), then terrible things can happen. like, cataclysmic. i don't even like to talk about it, to be honest >.>

Of the approximately ten billion trillion responses to Mage Pker, you chose the best. Amazing skillz. I'm in awe.

wut u mean? iz tru!

ThisIsAvalon · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1163 **Location:**

crazy_foo · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 1387 **Location:**

OH NO SG how could u

Necrobat · **Posted:** Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:49 pm

PR0METHEUS wrote:

I agree it's definitely easy to modify screenshots, even if you post a picture of your entire desktop. Perhaps video can be modified as well.

One suggestion I've been thinking about: since much of the evidence people post could theoretically be altered, maybe it would make more sense to give the accused a temporary ban, say 7-14 days, then have someone on the mod team log onto the accused's server to check them out. If the accusation can't be proven in that time, the ban would be lifted. If so, perma-ban.

Maybe that's overkill just to identify botters and protect the innocent for the forums, but it's just an idea. Perhaps just log in to check people out when there are legitimate reasons to suspect evidence.

If that were to come into play, who's to say they wouldn't stop botting if they do so for that time, then return to doing it the instant the bane is lifted?

SG, that reply was win. lol

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

Necrobat wrote:

PR0METHEUS wrote:

I agree it's definitely easy to modify screenshots, even if you post a picture of your entire desktop. Perhaps video can be modified as well.

One suggestion I've been thinking about: since much of the evidence people post could theoretically be altered, maybe it would make more sense to give the accused a temporary ban, say 7-14 days, then have someone on the mod team log onto the accused's server to check them out. If the accusation can't be proven in that time, the ban would be lifted. If so, perma-ban.

Maybe that's overkill just to identify botters and protect the innocent for the forums, but it's just an idea. Perhaps just log in to check people out when there are legitimate reasons to suspect evidence.

If that were to come into play, who's to say they wouldn't stop botting if they do so for that time, then return to doing it the instant the bane is lifted?

SG, that reply was win. lol

I'm not saying temp-ban them for botting, but a temp-ban for 'suspicious behaviour' while they are investigated. If they are a proven bot, perma-ban. There is no coming back. If the evidence turned out to be fake, or insufficient, lift the ban.

Again, maybe it's not necessary because if someone was wrongfully accused and banned because of it, they can still contact the mod team with proof to get their account unbanned if they wish.

Airbeat · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 942

Ryoko wrote:

/tissue

Lol!

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Mon Feb 25, 2008 12:28 pm

Suicide bots? =O

xD

Avalanche · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 3606 **Location:**

Wait, sui, is it possible for you to go into someones acc and look at the PM's that way?

Only if they allow you, that is.

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