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Fly has made it clear that he considers BHA bot supporters. He's also stated that "we will use the same methods and tools, that we use against the bots, in fighting bot supports." Of course, this means Avalon members are prohibited from joining any parties with BHA members because the party ban has been one of the more effective tools used against bots.

Personally, I'd still like to party with Avalon members. Although the group I was partying with regularly (EM, Sad Eyes) has now moved up, I've been having fun with TE members like Zest and Puffin. Consider this an invitation to Avalon union members to continue to party with me. I promise I won't tell Fly.

Lol if thats the new rule you can kick me out of midnight.

Well, I don't think Fly could have made it any clearer:

"If your not an ally in the war, your an enemy...From SG's post its very clear which side you stand on...we will use the same methods and tools, that we use against the bots, in fighting bot supports."

But like a battered wife, I still Avalon.

Lol, I'm still partying with Avalon union idc bout Fly's rule.
We are legit. Bot supporters his a.ss.

I'm not talking about us partying with them. There's no issue there.

I'm talking about them partying with us. It seems like that's a no-no.

EDIT: I want to be clear: I love partying with Avalon. I'm not going to stop. The ones that didn't get plvld are great players, funny in chat, fair in dist and offer good advice. I'm as disappointed as anyone by Fly's comments.

I have a feeling much of avalon union wont be union anymore after this if he enforces that.

*can someone pass me the popcorn*

*here you go*

If Fly enforces no parties with BHA his numbers will dwindle, unfortunately I don't think he gives a shit.

avalon members are welcome to join bha parties all they want. and bha is welcome in my parties also.

its not the members fault that there leaders are bot supporting pussies.

but oh wait, i guess im to fault for that. my tactic of compleat denial to the bots is mean and crule and even tho its super effective your union is only here to "have fun" and can act in a way that is counter productive and destructive to the bot war without being labled bot supporters.

well enjoy "having fun". im sure when Venus ends up like Oasis you will have lots of hand holding fun with your carebear union while getting ass raped by the botters at every turn.

Avalon is tired of fighting so that ungreatfull lazy ..... can sit back and bad mouth us in compleat safety.

I disagree. Fly is very passionate about what he believes. He feels strongly about the reasons Venus has been as successful as it is. He believes BHA undermines Avalon's efforts in fighting bots. I may disagree with him, but he's going to do what he believes is the best for this server. Like I said, I'm disappointed but I admire his convictions and willingness to put them into action.

If he doesn't prohibit Avalon from partying with BHA, he's just a hypocrite. I think Fly is anything but a hypocrite.

EDIT: Whoops. Posted too slow. Sorry.

Who is the ungreatful lazy ****?

lol

Avalon slaps BHA, BHA cries, the neutral legits lol at them



(j/k bha people )

fixed

Good one too

but i wasnt serious on the last one dont worry

hahahahahaha.

so ego, how did just playing legitly work out for you on Oasis?





if your not part of the solution, ur part of the problem.

but i bet it was very fun for Avalon to fight for 5 months, run out every sigle big bot guild, invite BHA from other server, then watch as the legits undo the majority of the bot war. Very fun indeed.

I regret ever bringing BlackHand to venus. I spent a shitload of time and effort pming SG and updating him weekly on the progress in the venus bot war, trying to convince him to move here. What a waste of time and effort. I should of seen the contribution that BH made to the bot was on xian and learned my lesson. Changing servers does not change a person. Same old spineless rollovers going around preching "personal legitness".

Bots are people too! LEAVE BOTTERS ALOOONNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /emo /cut /cut

Fly-ified

blah blah blah blah blah emo //

Same goes for you Fly, you might be a reformed botter but you still act like a botter, an a-hole.

Funny way of looking at it, if we play legit on this server, there is one less spot for a bot. That in itself helps. If you continue to make the server inhospitable place to play for legits, the legits will leave, more bots will come. That's also one less Tal, or Goob or tedo or Axe or Grace or Narc or SG that spend their free time screwing with bots. This seems to be counter-productive to your goals.

I'm surprised that you allow Avalon to party with bot-supporters. I honestly thought you were more hardcore anti-bot than that. It's all fine to say that members shouldn't be punished because their leaders are pussies but the members support the leaders.

speaking of counter productive, can u guys please stop losing wars against bot guilds? that pumps them up more then anything.

its like, when avalon wars a guild, the guild dies a week later. then BHA wars a guild, that guild end up 50/50 with a 8/8 union a week later.

its embarrasing to even watch...



oh trust me. no one in avalon parties with the bot supporters in bha.

and i would like u to respond to my earlyer post. i thought u of all people whould have some wise imput on my post.

This remind me of something I read in a book about ants.

In the ant society, there's two distinct group:

-The sexual group(queen,winged males and futur queens)

-The asexual group(soldiers,workers)

What I want to point out is this:

In the workers group,there's 3 types of behavior where you can associate each ant.

-The first type is composed of people that do nothing at all. They just wander around doing nothing.

-The second type is composed of people who WANT to do something,but sadly every single thing they do become a failure ex: They build a new tunnel that makes another one collapses.

-And finnaly, the third type is composed of those whose actions really bring something to the community. They repair the mistakes of the second type and still make the society progress.

From what I read about Venus it's how I see the community so far. The funny thing is when you look at a human community anywhere in the world, it's pretty much the same thing.

So it's impossible to have a community where everyone will DO something. Wherever you go it'll always go back to those three types. So Fly,don't judge BHA because of one or two person. It's not about the union or the guild, it's about each individual.

I understand Avalon - it is their hard work that made Venus legit-friendly server, and are now angry that other players are consuming fruits of their work without appreciating them
I understand BHA - we are people who came to this server because it was the most legit-friendly server

IMO Avalon's biggest problem is that it sucks a$$ when it comes to diplomacy and PR...
If you people stopped critisizing every legit that is not zealous bot-fighter, you would have much more support. why wont you focus on recruting those players, who are eager in fighting bots your hardcore way? thus you could invest time in training real elites, and become the actual guardians of the server, who gather best fighters. without accusing other guilds and making bad PR. if you were acknowledged as front-line bot fighters and were on good terms with other unions you could ask for support of different kind - just like a country sponsors its militia, but does not have to be a part of it.

Avalon leaders - make legits on Venus understand that they can enjoy the server thanks to your hard work, but try to do it in a more diplomatic way. becouse now legits are starting to fighting among themselves and the only ones who benefit are those you fight against.

So no real answer as to how your decision to ostracize legits hurts your cause? Just another insult at us?

Of course it is difficult to beat bots in PvP when Avalon members give them buffs.

Lol Nog, ''No - Are you member of Avalon? - Yes'' I seriouslu Lol'd at that. Good picta

really? is that what we asked you when we broght you to venus?

and you still did not give a real reply to my original post.

Why did you bring BHA to Venus, that is what I want to know.

cuz 1 union, no matter how strong is it, cant win the war alone. i thought BHA would grow some balls and help out. SG even promised to help the war effort last time he was in our ventrilo. I thought he had the balls to back up his word.

I thought wrong.

Some people from BHA do help.. theres no denying that at least?

what war? the war on legits?