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Witch, i saw u guys pt with spartans and others from botters guild in generals. U're sucking up to them now? U need them to make pt now? Come on, dont waste our hard work chasing them out of venus. We dont want them. Dont u get it? Magician cought botting when he was IN Avalon. We kicked him and now u add him? That's just stupid man. If he wanna go legit, he should've done it when he was in Avalon already. For fck's sake, dont kiss their assess for pt. U're lowering ur standard lower than botters already.

We dont want them in Venus, we dont talk to them much, we dont make friend with them, we dont invite them to pt, we want them to get bored of the server. Many legits are coming to venus because we did that so well. Dont fckin ruin it! And plzzzzz... Dont tell me it's just a game when u got mad like hell when ppl ksed ur wife. It doesnt add up.

Just leave what had happen behind and continue make this server better. That's the least u can do. Dont ruin it plz. I know u can do it.

OMFG served like a subway sandwich.... anyways, look at it this way guys. We have ex botters, but so does avalon, who cares, its a game, play and have fun.

Apoc just left AVAlon and Nightbloom pmed me asking why. I dont like explaining myself, so i ignored her. wanna know what we got from avalon?

Nothing
Union chat=Dead
Parties=none
Appreciation=none
Fun=not really, too many stuffy assholes

now these are my opinions and i am entitled to them, just like nightbloom thinks fly is god....<<<<opinion
With all that being said she goes on to say we are avalon rejects, when no hurtful words were said before we left...dam grow up

Since i didnt see guardias post....edit
Guardia, what happened to it being ok to party with bots, maybe even get them to change. You all did it. So wait are you saying that only the high and mighty avalon can try to change things. fck that 5 minutes in new union, and guess what wow....union chat is fun again(remember, thats what its all about). oh and P.S. you'll never get rid of botters, you all live in some little fantasy world.

btw guardia Magician doesn't need Avalons approval to go legit. I'm not defending him but saying that he should have done it in avalon, you act like its not possible else where. Though he probally is still botting i don't even know who they are, but the point stands.

I'm sad now godz left us.
But don't support the botters either. I'm happy for a change to be in a legit union, this is the first not total crap union i've been in, by crap i mean every one afk botting, but lately the chat has died down. But lol every one should know never party with spartans they will get you killed, they are plvled noobs who can't play their builds (this sounds like a fimiliar argument) every spartan i met couldn't party play at all.

so you finaly left. took you a while there. you were supposed to do it like a month ago.

Why was I supposed to? Wtf does that mean? I mean really.... We have stood by and supported you and your "cause" since the server opened, dont come here spouting nonsense.

I hope no one else leaves, this could become boring soon if they do

Omg Foudre you are my hero !!!

I thought I was the only person who hated having Spartans in a party. I swear if Icecross asks for a party one more time I'm gonna flip out...

Oh and about the Avalon union chat Death the reason it was not active was because I wasn't there.

I tryed my hardest to get union conversations going so that we could all bond as a guild better. But instead everyone either decided to talk on vent or not talk at all.

making friends with bots is okay in my eyes, I am friends in alot of the botters on venus simply because they have never been bad to me...I dont see being friends with botters as a bad thing.. I have always tried to make the community on the servers that I have played family like even if people are botters.

I dont agree with letting them into legit guilds even if they have gone legit at 40. You can bot for a day and you are still a botter, unless you are going to completley reroll then you arent welcome in a legi guild, but that doesnt mean that you cant be friends with them. You should never be an ass hole to somebody simply because they bot.. most botters aren t bad people they are actualy pretty cool people to talk to and know.

I dont support botters I simply think that they are something that you cant get rid of, if they want to play they will play.. I think unless they are constantly banned they wil keep coming back, you might as wel try and use them for your own gains.

I thought you were done posting here Witch? Lulz, I really gotta stop holding you to your word. You seem to go back on it alot.

You should try to stick to your word sometime, it'll get you further in life.




Lol.... not to say it wasnt expected. Natural Selection for the win!

i actually agree, and i don't if they botted on that charector they should be allowed in with it...
I can see both sides of the arguments on how to treat bots, (i'm ignoring the 3rd side that doens't care) on one hand they are people and you shouldn't be a jerk to them. on the other hand we have the war on bots mentality, and as a war as this has to go it has to be shown to the bots its hopeless and pointless to keep playing. I agree with both sides, but I can't keep my angery face on all the time. I mean hell i may be a theif but i talk with the hunter and merchants, and when i was a a hunter and merchant i had theif freinds, of course too many people take it too seriously and still wont' talk, but some do, would you rather play a game where you get robed and they are like f you, or rob you and say man that crazy after along fight. I've even given the money from loot back to traders before, i really care more about the xp then the gold.

sorry i was ranting i do that some times

Both sides have valid arguments. Another reason (this goes to nightbloom) i don't like to war bots is because i don't even see them worthy to be my opponent. I want a legitimate opponent not some cheater

Foudre I think you hit the nail on the head... this game should not be an us against them community, it should always feel friendly and comfortable. Yes there are botters that should be treated like shit cause they are just morons, but there are others that generaly arent they are nice people that will help you if you need it. Alot of botters as long as you arent ass holes to them will not be ass holes to you.

Yes I agree there should always be a definedf line between the botters and the legits as I think it is important that legits get the credit and respect that they are due for playing in such a corrupt environment.

People say that bots are disrespectful but that is not true, I know they show me respect for what I do they help me when I need it and for that I am not going to simple call them names and act like an idiot for no reason.

People may see them as being a botter as reason enough to be a moron I dont, they are still people you cannot hold them entierly responsible for cheating the systyem of a game that its makers dont care about. If you want to be mad at somebody be mad at the people that have the power to stop them from botting but dont. It is human nature to look for an easier way, and botting is easier way of playing the game, it may be wrong but so are alot of things in this world that are now socialy accepted.

The way I look at it there are different definitions of what constitutes a legit and what makes you not legit, but the most important thing is to stay true to your beliefs and the people around yous beliefs.

And respect other peoples opinions and ways of doing things.. you do not have the power to change other peoples beliefs and you certainly dont have the right to attempt to change or put people down because of the beliefs or way they do things.

While botting is wrong and should never be accepted it is something that we cannot change, the only people that have the power to stop it are Joymax and they have no interest in doing so.

The best thing for you to do is get on with paying the game the way that brings you most enjoyment.

Awww you didnt print the whole thing tho. See, we KICK our botters. You know, get rid of them? Novel concept. We can be strong with out helping botters. Too bad you couldnt. =(


@Kari - Venus was our great experiment. We had a plan and a method predetermined. Just because other ppl are power hungry or lazy, doesnt mean we are going to give up our plan. It was a success. You cant say it wasnt. Others have tried to copy it and failed. Odyssey wants to "have mmoar funz pl0x" and be a part bot Union. Great! We dont have to support that or play like that. It will make them stronger in the short run, but weak in the long.

us vs the community??? I don't think it's like that Kari, but it's us vs the botters... and it's not impossible to kick botters out of the server, and Avalon succeeded in that some how... Wot makes the server sucky right now is the fights between legits not bots... and we gotta stop that...

I don't know i'd rather fight legits because the bots aren't worthy for me to fight. I want a fair contest, I want to be tested.

We still need our fellow legits to party with, doesn't mean we can't have rivalries. Its more interesting fighting other people then the soulless.

they didnt realy succed in removing botters from the server, they did what was needed inorder to make the server hopping bots leave... that isnt realy that hard. The botters that make the difference are still here.

You aim to make it a haven for legits and it isnt that, there is nothing happening on the server there is not realy anything to make legits want to come here and leave high level characters on other server.

And you have two high profile legit guild bad mouthing each other on a forum that both use to try and recruit people, does that seem like the type of thing that is going to make more legit people come to the server.

ThisIsAvalon. I was done with this post. Then everyone's contradicting comments made me feel like posting. Partying with Bots! Well for your information, There was one spartans member in the party, he was a bard. the other two were standing around watching or ksing. If Avalon was the biggest group of pricks around, we could fill parties with 100% legit players (In the Niya Generals). But, like i said, you guys just want to be a bunch of pricks. Your comments on Apoc Fly, we knew you would say something like that. As well, I am sure you will say something now that Godz Power has unioned with us. Everyone knows, if your not in Avalon, then Avalon will treat ya like shit. Luckily, for BHA that have a treaty with you. Any of you that are still left over there, you are more than welcome to come have some fun in this union. As for those of you that don't like me, you are more than welcome to come have some fun with the new legit union. You see Fly, you might be a good player in the game, but your not that great a leader. I know you probably haven't noticed, but there is another new Legit guild out there called sapphire. I created it. Why? more noob parties, and teaching them early. I took some members from my guild and made one of them GM over there. Spreadin the love around. Not something I would ever imagine seeing from the great "emperor".

You have lost touch with reality my friend. Your crew ksing legits, for a spot you never even grind in, the cult you are running, and your off the wall false accusaitions have just about run everyone away from you. The last of your guilds want to leave you but are afraid they will lose members. Rethink your plans, you can rebuild yourself into a more respected guild.

And finally, back on topic: Magician, does not bot, never did bot. Thats Final. I was there the day you kicked him, for scamming. He scammed SilviuSSS for about 350k for plvl. How do I know this? SilviuSSS is in my guild. Magician claims that it wasn't him on that account at that time, and no one will ever use his account again. Perhaps you need to come off your power trip and relax a little.

Dammit, I'm double posting again. Kari I missed your post when I submit that last reply. I whole heartedly 100% agree on the legit vs. legit thing. As well Foudre I agree with you.

This doesn't need to be a fight, in the forums. We can pvp, job war, FW, and guild war in game. And in the end, still be friends. Thats the whole point of this game, isn't it? not Legits vs. bots. However, When Fly comes on here trying to drag everyones name through the mud, I will defend each and every one of them. No one deserves to be disrepected without proper evidence.

When Fly actually has something to prove, maybe he can get the courage to talk to me in game about it. Or post some links here with some screen shots, or video or something.. Anything. Just don't make shit up out of the blue.

AH HA! I do remember that i think didn't some one global against him?

edit what was the deal with apoc? they were supposed to leave a month ago? what talk is this? I want to know what was implied by this

As way I see it is, Odyssey left Avalon union for whatever reasons and now you talk shit to each other. Knock this shit off, you were friends I believe before, why cant you stay friends lol and have some friendly rivalry, instead of this I cut your throat at any chance attitude.

thats a big wall of text that im not gonna bother reading. only thing that stood out was godz_power. funny how you begged me to kick them a week ago, but now your kissing there ass.

i never met a bigger hipocrit in silkroad. even joymax with its "war on bots" has more truth then your posts.

so was my question going to be ignored?

it was a simple question

Death was griping about not getting money after fortress war quick enough and threatening to leave.

Anyways, we already added a new guild to the Union, a friend of Zee's, so at least we know their loyalty isnt in question. ^^

"Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in"

Fly

huh?

Foudre, don't trust them. Just do what you do best.

Hi, Your mom.

Can't someone tell me where I am?
random nonsense, the best of the best. I'm bored
So i will just this useless off topic reply like everyone else.
Hi
can we close this thread
avalon = legit guild bashing
if you are not in avalon = you are 100% botter
Hi, we are avalon, we use multi client. Don't deny it! you can say my guild has it, and they got the d/l links from your members.

My point here is, useless bashing can go on, and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
but why. really Fly, if you are so damn smart, really whats the point of it? Can you honestly answer that one damn question please. This is useless.

Welcome the new Legit Union to the server. Helping to make venus a better place for everyone.



Nightbloom: almost right, we accept ppl you have rejected! They are great ppl. You should have gotten to know them. I love the new union.

Foudre I never griped about gold except the first 2 fort wars when we didn recieve money. I wasnt going to be an a.ss but you all brought it on yourself. Everyone listen up...

We left, nightbloom called us rejects..we had it out..

I messaged fly and he told me that i didnt care about their cause anymore. even though did not get lvled by a bot again at fly's request.(War had no internet and didnt know the bots of the server, so i figured fly "let it slide"). Then he says that the reason knowone talked to us was basically, them ignoring us til we left.

here that? because the great emporer douchebag didnt like us, he ignored a guild and person who helped his union more than all of you know.. til we left. Well im happy you did it. Cause we'd prolly still be there listening to you all talk what, maybe once a week.
Foudre, he also said im never on and never contribute to anything.
Ya ask any lower lvl thats ever needed help....anyways, long enough rant. I dare you to say none of that was said fly, cause ill post proof if need be.

Death

witch must be desperate. pming balkan members and promising them the fortress if they switch unions. yeah your right, you dont want drama

that plan did not work for G4N. Did not work for TheGrudge. Did not work for Revo. your like an 8th of what G4N was. Keep talking shit that you cant back up, it worked for everyone else

Just like achilles once said to me: "See you at fortress"


and death, yes thats what i said. And yes, i still stand by it.

oh and fyi, _JasonGwapo_ bots 24/7 in the caves.

lol. Being friends with botters makes them think they have a safe spot on the server. They then get more people to bot with their lies. All it takes is one accepted botter to turn an Entire Legit Union over to the Dark Side. When Alexander was still new, i saw it happen several times.

All it takes is 1, when left unchecked, its like a Virus. Once it starts off strong there is no stopping it unless a Uniform Resistance is made by Legits. I haven't been in Avalon long, but accepting botters as people first and cheaters second is like taking 1 step forward and 30 back.

LOL @ promising anyone a fortress! talk big all you want. I don't care about your silly fortress. We will go and have fun. If we win, then we win, If we lose, then we lose. Thats not real my concern. The union knows why i formed it. Ask any one of them. And again, You won't answer my question. What is the point of this? Why do you keep it up? do you think you are making me mad? do you think I am insulted? honestly guy, move on.

btw, anyone wanna tell me where jasongwapo is and i will look into it.
spout off more names pls..

<EDIT - 1> right half of the cave check (zachito saw me) no sign of gwapo yet. off to the left side.
<EDIT - 2> left side checked, found a plvl party, and about 10 other bots.

Donwhang checked.

uhm. 24/7 definately not. But i will keep investigating. thanks

I LOL'd IRL.

Examples of how Fly's a bad leader please.

Witch, you just spout shit just as much as Avalon does. I don't see how you're any better.

As night and Guardia said, Avalon kicks their botters.

You think Avalon would ever treat BHA like shit? Misinformed FTW?

You believe you have to be carebear to have fun. Wrong again. I've had plenty of fun, dunno what you're talking about. Fly is an asshole, even I'm not gonna deny it. Our difference is that I can see through it, where you just see someone not carebear enough so you get pissed.

Belgrath,

Where in this post did i say those things?
and what shit am I spouting?
if you are reffering to the post last week. I apologized. hello. ding ding.
pissed? me? hardly. just have time to kill so i'm trolling the forums.

Avalon is just trying to run our name through the mud. I will be completely honest here. the union is about 99% legit. I am working with the guild leaders to remove the bad apples. And they are agreeing with me. All in all it's a matter of word of mouth and getting actual proof of someone botting. Right now, now one can provide me with proof of anything.

Use the old saying:

If Fly told you to jump off a cliff, would you? We all know asy and nightbloom would. (flames will follow)

Just because the great emperor says something, doesn't make it gods word.

Only person I know on this forum that speaks the word of god... Kari!

<More edit> every time i hit submit I think of more. well that time actually, i was taking a shit, you know, a persons best time to think. I really never said anything regarding avalon vs bha. All i ever said was fly and nb pitched a fit soon as my name went with bha. So to save bha the trouble of the pathetic drama that has been carried on for like a week now, I decided to leave and form another legit union. It's what everyone asked for anyways. RP_BLOODLINE, and Mavericks joined right away, Angels joined and got assked to leave due to botting, Sapphire, created by me, and GM's by ex odysssey members to give lower lvl players parties, Godz_Power, sick of avalon, Apocolypse, (read above). And our new welcomed guild Traveler.

Something that has always bothered me since day 3 of venus (when i joined), if you are not in avalon you must be a bot. thats how they react to it all. with exception to BHA of course.
Look I carry the same legit policy over in this new union. but personally, I would rather talk ppl out of botting, rather than sending them off to bot in another guild. You will never win a war against bots that way. Thats my stance, thats my opinion. If no one here likes that, I don't give a shit. I am doing my best to fight the war on bots too but I take a different approach. Different unions, different leaders. Ya think i'm a carebear? ok, call me WitchyBear!!

In fact, mod, Please change my username to WitchyBear.

Thanks.
Put an end to this dispute and lets get on to the real problem at hand. bots.

nice. keep fighting each other so we can grow silently and pwn u both in the back o_o