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people who go legit when capped are a joke.

people who go legit because they see that the game is 10x more fun that way and are serious about changing are welcome to become more legit.

turkey banned around 25 people to join our union. if you ever see any of them botting, report it asap. we are serious about being legit, and the choice to add turkey was based on the impact it would have on new turkish players.

this is the ONLY server in which bots become legits. in every other server legits become bots over time. we must be doing something right.

even with that said, i dont trust "new legits". they have to prove themselves and i watch them very closely. Mai proved himself over and over and over and i am proud to have changed him into a legit player.

we are doing wonders for venus. this kind of stuff will happen regularly, but as long as we dont get weak and lose our purpose we will always be legit and powerfull.

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people who go legit when capped are a joke.

people who go legit because they see that the game is 10x more fun that way and are serious about changing are welcome to become more legit.

turkey banned around 25 people to join our union. if you ever see any of them botting, report it asap. we are serious about being legit, and the choice to add turkey was based on the impact it would have on new turkish players.

this is the ONLY server in which bots become legits. in every other server legits become bots over time. we must be doing something right.

even with that said, i dont trust "new legits". they have to prove themselves and i watch them very closely. Mai proved himself over and over and over and i am proud to have changed him into a legit player.

we are doing wonders for venus. this kind of stuff will happen regularly, but as long as we dont get weak and lose our purpose we will always be legit and powerfull.


quite true...but my union in greece doesnt allow anyone if they botted at all, even if they dont now; not saying im trying to inforce that, im just not used to your philosophy

im almost 32 too w00t lol

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No Mai did bot they were the highst lvl bot on the server for the first week or two, then they went legit at around 60 when they joined avalon.


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no wonder shes 72 lol


well i dont really care anywayz, it just doesnt make a difference IMO. if it isnt against union rules its kewl wit me :P


Botters become better when they turn legits ..
Mai was lvl 58 when he joined Avalon .. that wasn't so far from Asyamura .. he kept the lvl gap between himself and asya all the way till 65 when his premuim ended and he went in-active for 1 week and he made only 1 lvl to be 66 while asya closed between him and made 67 first then Mai come active again so they race to be highest legits in serevr now at almost same lvl at 73 ..

So Mai proved himself perfectly as a legit when he hand grind 58~73 and still doing .. our new allies guild 95% of them almost around Mai joining lvl and most of them are lower so they still have the time to prove themselfs .. they kicked so much people to be legits and join us .. they promised to do .. we must give them the chance they aren't capped ppl who wanna switch to just join strong guild ..

Let the history record this day as a turning point in Venus to have first botter guild that kick botters or force them to stop botting to turn into legits .. I'll be so proud of them if they are honest and complete this awesome change forever ....

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im a little pretentious about the new guild in union....and how they "were" botters =\ (even tho he said he kicked all botters...idk really, but im low in union so i dont really feel it matters that much to me)

So am I. -_-

Majority of that guild is bots. Volkan himself (their leader) bots. He's a warrior, and doesn't buff anyone. I've seen so many of their members botting; I even saw one wall humping last night.

In other news, I heard qweequik is quitting the server because you raped him in job suit guys. GG.

for Volkan he will learn if he have real well to be legit .. I partyed with him too we had bad cleric (he is wizard and his cleric not high enough) and we all died when he lured much mobs and we didn't get good chance to complete the party after that .. but i made vital error when i gave warrior my qouta XD :twisted: .. i was supossed to fenese him not qouta and i was lucky that purestr noticed at once and canceled it ..

And for that qweequik he will not quit till he realised that he still have no chance even with being capped and fighting lower lvls .. he will enjoy "the extreme power" for a while specially at 1 vs 1 PVP but soon he will find himself one of the weakest ppl in server and will go for making other thing that make him own other new server .. just don't outstip the events .. days will till everything .. 8)

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Sounds like you guys are having a blast. If I had the time when Venus opened I would of joined.

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Gratz to Turkey guild, our BIGGEST competition on Venus server on transferring over to become legit. Its nice to see that even botters become legit now that they see the game is pretty fun now. With the 2nd strongest union in the server, Turkey union becoming legit, Venus is now almost a pure legit server.


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avalon did a mistake to let Turkey in union. even they banned botters in guild but not all of them r gone. so, watch Turkey guild carefully. don't make the whole union look bad. n keep the fortress away from G4N.

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avalon did a mistake to let Turkey in union. even they banned botters in guild but not all of them r gone. so, watch Turkey guild carefully. don't make the whole union look bad. n keep the fortress away from G4N.


We're watching them very carefully, trust me. If we hear any reports of botting, we report it ASAP, because I know Volkan is serious about making his guild legit and keeping it legit.

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avalon did a mistake to let Turkey in union. even they banned botters in guild but not all of them r gone. so, watch Turkey guild carefully. don't make the whole union look bad. n keep the fortress away from G4N.


if its a mistake, time will tell. if it turns out to be a mistake, it can be fixed with 1 button: "Expel".

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avalon did a mistake to let Turkey in union. even they banned botters in guild but not all of them r gone. so, watch Turkey guild carefully. don't make the whole union look bad. n keep the fortress away from G4N.


if avalon really cares about it, those turks won't even be in the union. banning afew bots doesn't mean they r legit.

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avalon did a mistake to let Turkey in union. even they banned botters in guild but not all of them r gone. so, watch Turkey guild carefully. don't make the whole union look bad. n keep the fortress away from G4N.


if avalon really cares about it, those turks won't even be in the union. banning afew bots doesn't mean they r legit.




No, not botting makes them legit.

If they fail to do so, then they'll be kicked. :wink:

If you see one botting, pm any Avalonian and we'll take care of it.

Until then, they are nice people and deserve a 2nd chance.

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avalon did a mistake to let Turkey in union. even they banned botters in guild but not all of them r gone. so, watch Turkey guild carefully. don't make the whole union look bad. n keep the fortress away from G4N.


if avalon really cares about it, those turks won't even be in the union. banning afew bots doesn't mean they r legit.


just cuz there turks does not mean that they are automaticly ksing bots. sometimes, but not always.

anyways. volkan tried his best to make his guild legit. he went and banned like 25ish ppl. the people he did not ban promised to stop botting. they lied to him. he found them botting this morning and admited he had no real control over his guild so he took it out of the union to avoid causing us problems.

i think volkan deserves some respect for atleast trying to do the right thing, even if it did not work out in the end.

if anyone from any bot guild is serious about being legit, we dont hold grudges and we will give you a fair chance. of course geting to 80 then pretending to be legit wont ever be accepted in this union.

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woh. alot changes after the war. G4N clean out the union. TheGrudge recuit guild which got kick from G4N union. And TheGrudge helped Avalon at war. wt is going on lol.

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The same thing that happens on every server, now the bots are getting capped they are starting to truely see who is strong and skilled and who isnt. On every server there is always a union like G4N's was with all the big bots in it, then when they start to get farmed and capped they start to see that maybe some people are weak, people start to leave and so the unions start to shift. Alot of G4N's union didnt like them they were there only because G4N had the high lvls and were powerfull. Now that Avalon has proved who is the strongest guild on the server for now atleast the bots are looking to form new aliances.

It will be a while before people begin to see Venus for what it is, Venus is not like anyother server, there is now farked up sun drop rate there is now advantage to bot like on the old servers. The most skilled players will rule the server and there will only be one or two people with sun that will rape everybody else. But more importantly it is the only server were both Euros and Chinese are on an even playing field because of the lack of sun this means that the dominant guild will be the Euro guilds, Unless the bot guilds can get a good mix of Euros into their guild they will never be able to beat a pure Euro guild.

The fortress war proved that you can talk and talk and talk but unless you are prepared to back that up you will end up looking like a fool. While G4N didnt have anywere near the numbers we did they had most of their big hitters there but they still couldnt win, so bots who always have to be the strongest and best will naturaly start to gravitate away from G4N to other guilds after having seen that they arent all powerfull like they first believed.

The only way that the bots on Venus will ever be victorius is if they unite and actualy start to work as a team. But we all know that this isnt realy possible for the bots on Venus as most of them dislike each other and arent exactly great at the game.

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this game was awesome at the begining. then the bots came and the legits did not know how to adapt so they got pwned. now on venus the legits have adapted and it is the bots that are getting pwned.... badly too.

G4N was made out of greed for power. there union was a joke. those kind of guilds/unions never work out. unless the bots can beat us at our own game (being legit and working together) they will not see a victory for a long long time.

plus bot guilds like TheGrudge are taking a different route. instead of being assholes they are helping people out and trying to be nice, which is attracting people to there side. something G4N is incapable of doing.

as i said early into the server, G4N is a passing fad. it will come and go and meny guilds like it will also come and go, and even if we are unable to outlevel them (which we can really easily) we will always be able to outlast them.


as for the war, lol. we had 2 parties of 60's and 70's and 100 little noobies and we beat back 3 guilds of 60's 70's and a few 80's with ease. sure we had numbers, but 75% of those numbers were nothing but cheerleaders :P

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after fortress we all know that TheGrudge is just a suckup guild. They will follow and help any guild they think its strong. Only 3 guilds in G4N union showup for war. To tell the truth, i think G4N union is not active at all. Only G4N and WWRU stands as a active bot guilds. Other bot guilds r AFK most of the time and weak. So good to hear that G4N clean them out. and TheGrudge, they get all of those AFK guilds from G4N union and think they become strong by recuiting those guilds. I don't think TheGrudge won't get any help at war and same story.

Its a shame that every1 in G4N guild showup but their union is dead. and they couldn't even brake the doors. I'm not expecting G4N to win the war when i heard that no1 in union came but atleast they should brake the door. I don't think that war isn't the best. Hopefully next war will be better with active union like Avalon.

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The only way we can expect to see a lot of good wars is if more legit unions move to Venus and level level level. The only real competition a legit can get is from a fellow legit, especially when working in parties.

A fortress war of full Euro parties vs full Euro parties would be an amazing sight to see. I have hopes of seeing one eventually on Venus.

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I do feel that once all the euros in the union cap and are farmed we should start a few chinese chars, maybe powerfarm them so they are easy to lvl. If we do so, a Mainly euro guild with chinese backup will be hard to top. A chinese char with full euro buffs and heals is almost unkillable and does a good deal of damage. Full euro is good....but a balance is better. Even if we never do so Avalon will never be truly tested until people learn how to work together. Stand together or die alone.

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Dunno what the G4N Union was expecting. LOL Botters are AFK people. Most of them just wanna "PWN" in PVP at the gate and the rest of the time check in every so often to look at the loot in their inventories.

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looks like almost every guild in the server bash G4N now. such a harsh globals. lol* :( :P
and still no reply from them.

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looks like almost every guild in the server bash G4N now. such a harsh globals. lol* :( :P
and still no reply from them.

They deserve it after all the smack they were talking. I managed to talk to RejectioN earlier and he respected that they lost, and I don't think he's too proud of the smack his guild had talked but couldn't back up.

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They deserve it after all the smack they were talking. I managed to talk to RejectioN earlier and he respected that they lost, and I don't think he's too proud of the smack his guild had talked but couldn't back up.


he's a cool guy i guess. he doesn't talk smack like his other guild members.
Edit: isn't 0nix from SRF, RejectioN?

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They deserve it after all the smack they were talking. I managed to talk to RejectioN earlier and he respected that they lost, and I don't think he's too proud of the smack his guild had talked but couldn't back up.


he's a cool guy i guess. he doesn't talk smack like his other guild members.
Edit: isn't 0nix from SRF, RejectioN?


yes he is .. look at his sign.
I respect RejectioN and few ppl from G4N but almost all G4N and thier union keep talking shit and do nothing as they annonced in their name ..

The new union that wanna challenge us and own Venus later will be "RiskYourLife" .. yes they are too low and have no real power but they think they will PWN by gold farming and SOX farming .. they think that they will have first SOX D9 items and will Own all Venus ..
They saved 150m till now for what they think about and they continue to save .. that's funny

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They deserve it after all the smack they were talking. I managed to talk to RejectioN earlier and he respected that they lost, and I don't think he's too proud of the smack his guild had talked but couldn't back up.


he's a cool guy i guess. he doesn't talk smack like his other guild members.
Edit: isn't 0nix from SRF, RejectioN?


yes he is .. look at his sign.
I respect RejectioN and few ppl from G4N but almost all G4N and thier union keep talking shit and do nothing as they annonced in their name ..

The new union that wanna challenge us and own Venus later will be "RiskYourLife" .. yes they are too low and have no real power but they think they will PWN by gold farming and SOX farming .. they think that they will have first SOX D9 items and will Own all Venus ..
They saved 150m till now for what they think about and they continue to save .. that's funny


rofl 150m

dude what does avalon make from the fortress? like 3x that in two weeks?

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Keep up the good work Avalon+union. Congrats on winning fortress war too

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they think that they will have first SOX D9 items and will Own all Venus ..
They saved 150m till now for what they think about and they continue to save .. that's funny


i saved 100mil by switching to geico.

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2 G4N members quit the guild and become legit now. looks like in next few months, G4N will disappear in the server or become legit.

edit: i feel like leaving Venus. cuz everytime i went to dw and jg, theres no1 to pvp. samething happen everyday. even theres alot of legits in the server, y not no1 bother to pvp. i mean come on, even low lvls pvp sometimes, but this server is empty. i have no idea y.

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I agree it seems like the server is dead already, I would have thought that there would have been alot of pvp going on by now even if it was only between capped bots, but maybe this is what the server will be like now with the fixed sun drops, people will have to put in the time if they want the reward.

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tell me about it. i'm really bored out playing in venus.

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The legits are grinding, the bots are farming, or plevelling Euros. The only thing I wish to be, is more trading activity. No one to rob. :(

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