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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:02 pm |
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HejsaN wrote: inmobile wrote: go bow or blade and you will be glorious in pvp. No you wont. +1
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:27 pm |
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ill prove that bladers in ecsro can own.. youll see.. just wait..
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:36 pm |
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I'm pretty sure they tried to tell that not only bow and blade can own, but all of the builds(not talking about the obvious crap builds).
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:09 pm |
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inmobile wrote: go bow or blade and you will be glorious in pvp. The only way bowers or bladers own is spammin kd or kb! otherwise they are just an easy cake!
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:31 pm |
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GaRiTaX wrote: inmobile wrote: go bow or blade and you will be glorious in pvp. The only way bowers or bladers own is spammin kd or kb! otherwise they are just an easy cake! i should smack you! lol not really but im hybrid with shit gear atm and its hard to kill me with my shield out...... even without kd.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:31 am |
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Amarisa wrote: GaRiTaX wrote: inmobile wrote: go bow or blade and you will be glorious in pvp. The only way bowers or bladers own is spammin kd or kb! otherwise they are just an easy cake! i should smack you! lol not really but im hybrid with shit gear atm and its hard to kill me with my shield out...... even without kd. ur hyb =) wich means ur dmg is a bit higher than a pure str blader ^^ and u gotta admit it =)
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 1:54 am |
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^^^^
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:28 am |
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Tsume wrote: butcha wrote: 2 cool guys vs. tons of even cooler people in Fembria You should all join Fembria anyways. 2 cool people?  I THINK NOT! (Kraq and Grounded weren't in this pic  ) We have the coolest union on public :3 Yay, im in that screen shot!
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:40 am |
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GaRiTaX wrote: inmobile wrote: go bow or blade and you will be glorious in pvp. The only way bowers or bladers own is spammin kd or kb!otherwise they are just an easy cake! Have you ever seen me or MrIronic pvp? KD/KB is not the only way. Psh.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:18 am |
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Tsume wrote: GaRiTaX wrote: inmobile wrote: go bow or blade and you will be glorious in pvp. The only way bowers or bladers own is spammin kd or kb!otherwise they are just an easy cake! Have you ever seen me or MrIronic pvp? KD/KB is not the only way. Psh. you still suck
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:20 am |
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Tsume wrote: GaRiTaX wrote: inmobile wrote: go bow or blade and you will be glorious in pvp. The only way bowers or bladers own is spammin kd or kb!otherwise they are just an easy cake! Have you ever seen me or MrIronic pvp? KD/KB is not the only way. Psh. i haven't but to add onto this only noobs spam kb/kd
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:12 am |
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Frankly, I don't think kd is spamming. If it kills you (eventually) then it's not spamming. KB on the other hand, will never kill anyone (not on ecsro) and therefore is spamming. Just my take on it.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:36 am |
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if you know how use skills, you can win with all builds.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:15 pm |
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assuming 90% of THE WHOLE SRO who uses bladers spamm kd, yeah its annoying, and yeah 90% of the the whoe SRO community are noobs!
KD is considered spamm... why? when?
they kd u... hit u 3-4 times, u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times,u get back on ur feets, they kd u again, hits 3-4 times, u get back on ur feets...
... u get tired, u use ghost walk to step a bit farther, then nukes then emperor, they get stunned, then a simple ghost spear... and they die.. and then they have the guts to call u noob cuz u used ghost walk...
u feel me? =) who's the nub? =)
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:39 pm |
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^ exactly, only the noobs who doesnt know how to play a blader spams KD repeatedly. And if they werent such nab's, they wouldnt die from a nuke+emperor+ghost spear, i remember how it was with my old blader, 2 nukers with fb sets could nuke me repeatedly and they still couldnt kill me, not to mention they were in fb sets also, so if your got my point, only nabs who doesnt know how to play with his build, spams kd/kb
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:47 pm |
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Alkali wrote: ^ exactly, only the noobs who doesnt know how to play a blader spams KD repeatedly. And if they werent such nab's, they wouldnt die from a nuke+emperor+ghost spear, i remember how it was with my old blader, 2 nukers with fb sets could nuke me repeatedly and they still couldnt kill me, not to mention they were in fb sets also, so if your got my point, only nabs who doesnt know how to play with his build, spams kd/kb Thank you kind sir ^^
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:31 am |
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Alkali wrote: ^ exactly, only the noobs who doesnt know how to play a blader spams KD repeatedly. And if they werent such nab's, they wouldnt die from a nuke+emperor+ghost spear, i remember how it was with my old blader, 2 nukers with fb sets could nuke me repeatedly and they still couldnt kill me, not to mention they were in fb sets also, so if your got my point, only nabs who doesnt know how to play with his build, spams kd/kb I'm really sorry to ruin your dream, but 2 pure int, same lvl as you, could nuke you to death very fast, not to mention they were in fb sets. No either you were at least 5 lvls higher or they had lvl 1 weapons.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:26 pm |
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^ sorry, but your a nab did i mention what set i had? no i didnt. +4/+5 sos and regular +4/+5 almost all str and int i could have, +7 blade and shield, shield br was 18. P.s. i had 9 gap at that time, so before you start to talkin bullshit, get your facts.
it all lead to that i was uber tough, or they were nabs or something
EDIT: btw, i owned EVERYONE my lvl or 2 lvl higher/lower, pwned RoyalThief when he was with a full +5 fb sos/som set and a som glaive, totaly owned everyone, sun'ers, nabs, full awsome set users and more.. there werent anyone my lvl who could beat me, too bad i got hacked
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:10 pm |
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I think we are talking about end-game PVP, meaning capped.
I am a 100 cold 100 fire pure str glaive, my win-rate against all builds other than STR bow are very high. STR bowmen have 2 consecutive 100% interrupt skills as well as the ability to use 2 books of strong bow without delay, this means they kb and strongbow until they crit you and then start to use dps skills.
But yes, all builds have a their unique strategies and if used properly can be good in PVP within the limits of their build. It is up to the player to choose a strategy appropriate to their opponent.
Personally I think for 1v1 PVP STR bowmen are the strongest but not in group PVP.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:58 pm |
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Alkali wrote: ^ sorry, but your a nab did i mention what set i had? no i didnt. +4/+5 sos and regular +4/+5 almost all str and int i could have, +7 blade and shield, shield br was 18. P.s. i had 9 gap at that time, so before you start to talkin bullshit, get your facts.
it all lead to that i was uber tough, or they were nabs or something
EDIT: btw, i owned EVERYONE my lvl or 2 lvl higher/lower, pwned RoyalThief when he was with a full +5 fb sos/som set and a som glaive, totaly owned everyone, sun'ers, nabs, full awsome set users and more.. there werent anyone my lvl who could beat me, too bad i got hacked haha, my facts were totally correct, you just didn't tell me the other info before. And with that gear you got, even a full str nuker can own any of its level. You told that bladers own, now you are just backing up the fact that bladers own only if they are in sos FB +4/+5 set, with +7 b/s. Any build with this kind of set and +7 weap can own. It's like I'm telling you that my 70:70 bow OWNS SO BAD, IT'S AN ULTIMATEGODLY BUILD. Next thing I'm going to tell you that I owned everyone my lvl with my sos/som +3 set FB and sun+10 all 100% bow. Now you would totally tell me it's my gear not my build.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:59 pm |
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EquityMaster wrote: I think we are talking about end-game PVP, meaning capped.
I am a 100 cold 100 fire pure str glaive, my win-rate against all builds other than STR bow are very high. STR bowmen have 2 consecutive 100% interrupt skills as well as the ability to use 2 books of strong bow without delay, this means they kb and strongbow until they crit you and then start to use dps skills.
But yes, all builds have a their unique strategies and if used properly can be good in PVP within the limits of their build. It is up to the player to choose a strategy appropriate to their opponent.
Personally I think for 1v1 PVP STR bowmen are the strongest but not in group PVP. I agree with the bold'ed part, but, i dont agree with the "bowers are the strongest in 1v1", there is no strongest build, the gear and the player skills - thats what makes a difference. Im tired hearing the same shit all over again.. "bowers are the best!....no! glaivers are the best!... no your all wrong! nukers are the best!" and so on
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:59 pm |
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butcha wrote: Alkali wrote: ^ sorry, but your a nab did i mention what set i had? no i didnt. +4/+5 sos and regular +4/+5 almost all str and int i could have, +7 blade and shield, shield br was 18. P.s. i had 9 gap at that time, so before you start to talkin bullshit, get your facts.
it all lead to that i was uber tough, or they were nabs or something
EDIT: btw, i owned EVERYONE my lvl or 2 lvl higher/lower, pwned RoyalThief when he was with a full +5 fb sos/som set and a som glaive, totaly owned everyone, sun'ers, nabs, full awsome set users and more.. there werent anyone my lvl who could beat me, too bad i got hacked haha, my facts were totally correct, you just didn't tell me the other info before. And with that gear you got, even a full str nuker can own any of its level. You told that bladers own, now you are just backing up the fact that bladers own only if they are in sos FB +4/+5 set, with +7 b/s. Any build with this kind of set and +7 weap can own. It's like I'm telling you that my 70:70 bow OWNS SO BAD, IT'S AN ULTIMATEGODLY BUILD. Next thing I'm going to tell you that I owned everyone my lvl with my sos/som +3 set FB and sun+10 all 100% bow. Now you would totally tell me it's my gear not my build.yes i would.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:02 pm |
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Alkali wrote: butcha wrote: Alkali wrote: ^ sorry, but your a nab did i mention what set i had? no i didnt. +4/+5 sos and regular +4/+5 almost all str and int i could have, +7 blade and shield, shield br was 18. P.s. i had 9 gap at that time, so before you start to talkin bullshit, get your facts.
it all lead to that i was uber tough, or they were nabs or something
EDIT: btw, i owned EVERYONE my lvl or 2 lvl higher/lower, pwned RoyalThief when he was with a full +5 fb sos/som set and a som glaive, totaly owned everyone, sun'ers, nabs, full awsome set users and more.. there werent anyone my lvl who could beat me, too bad i got hacked haha, my facts were totally correct, you just didn't tell me the other info before. And with that gear you got, even a full str nuker can own any of its level. You told that bladers own, now you are just backing up the fact that bladers own only if they are in sos FB +4/+5 set, with +7 b/s. Any build with this kind of set and +7 weap can own. It's like I'm telling you that my 70:70 bow OWNS SO BAD, IT'S AN ULTIMATEGODLY BUILD. Next thing I'm going to tell you that I owned everyone my lvl with my sos/som +3 set FB and sun+10 all 100% bow. Now you would totally tell me it's my gear not my build.yes i would. That's what I'm telling you, it's not your "badassbladerbuild" it's the gear. SRO is all about gear/skill(no skill needed for just standing and taking dmg) and a little bit about build.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:08 pm |
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Alkali wrote: EquityMaster wrote: I think we are talking about end-game PVP, meaning capped.
I am a 100 cold 100 fire pure str glaive, my win-rate against all builds other than STR bow are very high. STR bowmen have 2 consecutive 100% interrupt skills as well as the ability to use 2 books of strong bow without delay, this means they kb and strongbow until they crit you and then start to use dps skills.
But yes, all builds have a their unique strategies and if used properly can be good in PVP within the limits of their build. It is up to the player to choose a strategy appropriate to their opponent.
Personally I think for 1v1 PVP STR bowmen are the strongest but not in group PVP. I agree with the bold'ed part, but, i dont agree with the "bowers are the strongest in 1v1", there is no strongest build, the gear and the player skills - thats what makes a difference. Im tired hearing the same shit all over again.. "bowers are the best!....no! glaivers are the best!... no your all wrong! nukers are the best!" and so on
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:23 pm |
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Alkali wrote: Alkali wrote: EquityMaster wrote: I think we are talking about end-game PVP, meaning capped.
I am a 100 cold 100 fire pure str glaive, my win-rate against all builds other than STR bow are very high. STR bowmen have 2 consecutive 100% interrupt skills as well as the ability to use 2 books of strong bow without delay, this means they kb and strongbow until they crit you and then start to use dps skills.
But yes, all builds have a their unique strategies and if used properly can be good in PVP within the limits of their build. It is up to the player to choose a strategy appropriate to their opponent.
Personally I think for 1v1 PVP STR bowmen are the strongest but not in group PVP. I agree with the bold'ed part, but, i dont agree with the "bowers are the strongest in 1v1", there is no strongest build, the gear and the player skills - thats what makes a difference. Im tired hearing the same shit all over again.. "bowers are the best!....no! glaivers are the best!... no your all wrong! nukers are the best!" and so on Didnt even see that post until now. Anyways, If you so tired of it, how come you telling us bladers ownz, if it's completely down to other aspects
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:33 pm |
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I didnt say bladers owns, i said they CAN own, like all other builds if played right.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:58 pm |
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Yeah, any build can own in decent gear... common sense.
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:08 pm |
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^ yes.
goin off to bed now.
still hoping for ecsro to come back, 4 weekend days damnit >.<
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:58 pm |
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In final tier with fb +5 set/weap 1v1 bowmen are the best for consistent wins
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Post subject: Re: ECSRO builds? Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:54 pm |
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^ ye ye lol..
lets say 5 of 10 ppl out there know how to play there builds. For example, ~50% of the server (atleast Nomi) are bowers 20% are nukers, 15% are glaivers, 15% bladers. So lets say if a server has 1000 players, 500 of them would know how to play there builds. So that means that there are.. 250 bowers who "own" 100 nukers who "own" 75 glaivers who "own" 75 bladers who "own"
consistent wins you say? The bower "owning" is just a ILLUSION, because ppl mostly are bowers, and because there are WAY more bowers than other builds, that doesnt mean shit like they mostly wins 1vs1 pvp for example.
got my point? anyone else agree with me?
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