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lothakoun
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Post subject: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:54 pm |
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so ive finally understood how to sp farm and im supposed to do that for like a couple of weeks for **K sp and ill be lvl 16 for a LONG time
my build is a pure str archer with pacheon 90 fire imbue 90 light 90 and cold 30 and the guides ive seen need like 400k-500k sp altogether
how long will i be sp farming at lvl 16 though? because i know im not going to farm all 400k-500k sp at once...
and if there isnt an exact answer about when should i stop?
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:29 pm |
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I suggest farming 100k at den if you can stand it. If you farm 100k you won't need sp for a very long time, however it will take 1 or 2 months (depending on if you have a ticket). However you will get rediculously bored and give up before you get to 100k, unless you have a lot of will power.
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:43 am |
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are there any other options so i could actually play the game? since its my first time playing SRO in depth like this and even past a lvl 12 character
is there another lvl id be able to farm sp again at? instead of this beginning lvl 16
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:20 am |
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lothakoun wrote: are there any other options so i could actually play the game? since its my first time playing SRO in depth like this and even past a lvl 12 character
is there another lvl id be able to farm sp again at? instead of this beginning lvl 16 you can calculate how much Sp is needed and calculate what kind of gap will get you to that SP amount while leveling. Of course that would be wihtout doing quests! -.- which is boring as hell, so what I would do is 9 gap from 9 to 20~21 the do the gap needed, and still do a few quests. EDit: I forgot chinese need more SP, man they suck.... anyways that's what I would do ( what I did with my warrior/cleric) with euro chars, my warrior atm has more than enough SP for lvl 40 including the cleric sub and im going for a 3 gap lvling now =]
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 4:16 am |
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so okay what if i decide to just keep the 9 level gap as i play the game normally until lvl 90 (lvl 90 with 81 mastery) without de-leveling and farming some thousands of skill points obviously this is hypothetical but what if i did that, would i have enough sp for pach 90/fire 90/light 90/cold 30? and im pretty sure the lvling will go REALLY slow
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:46 am |
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Depends on your build. http://www.nivlam.com/That website has a very useful tool in calculating the amount of SP you need. If you stay with a gap of 5 to lvl 90, you should have more than enough.
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 5:32 pm |
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lothakoun wrote: so okay what if i decide to just keep the 9 level gap as i play the game normally until lvl 90 (lvl 90 with 81 mastery) without de-leveling and farming some thousands of skill points obviously this is hypothetical but what if i did that, would i have enough sp for pach 90/fire 90/light 90/cold 30? and im pretty sure the lvling will go REALLY slow Like kevin said, calculate what you need and use the gap calculator to see what Gap fits it. BUT doing quests will lower your SP calculated since quests give less or no SP at all( some just give SP). If you do 9 gap all the way to 90 it will be very VERY slow! and you will probably end up with a bunch more SP than needed.
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:10 pm |
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kevinsun80 wrote: Depends on your build. http://www.nivlam.com/That website has a very useful tool in calculating the amount of SP you need. If you stay with a gap of 5 to lvl 90, you should have more than enough. okay so in the SP Gap section of that calculator what are the numbers that are along the left side? the numbers that go down from 1-140 at first i thought they were my lvls but then i was wrong because isnt the max character lvl only 90?
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:26 pm |
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lothakoun wrote: kevinsun80 wrote: Depends on your build. http://www.nivlam.com/That website has a very useful tool in calculating the amount of SP you need. If you stay with a gap of 5 to lvl 90, you should have more than enough. okay so in the SP Gap section of that calculator what are the numbers that are along the left side? the numbers that go down from 1-140 at first i thought they were my lvls but then i was wrong because isnt the max character lvl only 90? those ARE your levels  there's a 100 cap gap in Ksro if im not mistaken  Anyways those are your lvls, the top is the gap you would take, and the box in the middle of the two would be the SP gained in that lvl with that gap. If you are a starter I suggest you use the box at your right. and it can tell you How much SP you would gain from a level to another with a specific Gap Now for knowing how much SP you need I suggest going here http://sro.mmosite.com/x/  Edit: I noticed you are from USA too, I'm online at these hours since I have to do lab hours for my programming and English classes xD, so PM me if you need more help outside this topic, I'm not exactly a pro  ...yet  but I know quite a bit 
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:13 pm |
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but if those are my lvls and my gaps then being lvl 90 with a 9 lvl gap would only get 195k sp and thats no where near enough
so is there something im missing? or something im not looking at? because i thought i would have almost too much sp if i 9 lvl gapped until 90
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:28 pm |
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You don't put 90 in the left and the right column and then a 9 gap. Put in 5 on the left, 90 on the right, then 5 gap. That gives 668k+ sp.
If you 9 gapped all the way from 9 to 90, you'd get 4.2 mil+.
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:35 pm |
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wait so whats the chart for? and why would u put 5 on the left? just wondering what that number represents
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:39 pm |
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The chart tells you how much SP you would gain per level. So from level 9 to 10 with a 9 gap, you'd gain 403 sp.
You put in 5 at the left, because you would not level any skills before that point. Level 5 with level 0 skills = 5 gap.
As you go through the levels, you'd raise your skills to keep that 5 gap the whole way. At level 22, your skills would be level 17.
BTW, if you're Euro a 5 gap is more painful, good choice to stay Chinese.
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:49 pm |
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okay okay so if i just keep a 5 lvl gap i wouldnt have to worry about farming sp?
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:02 pm |
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lothakoun wrote: okay okay so if i just keep a 5 lvl gap i wouldnt have to worry about farming sp? Only you can find out like I said visit that website I posted a few posts behind. PS: chinese suck :3
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:08 pm |
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well what im looking at is the sp gap lvl first so far it looks like i can stomach a 6 lvl gap which gives me about 891k sp so now that i have that i can have even more skills instead of choosing all my skills and then finding the exact amount of sp i need  Edit: and when should i use that 60% Exp helper and 100% Exp helper?
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betuo
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:56 pm |
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Well lothakoun, I'm gonna tell you what's my idea for a better legit sp farm(off course without thosed fu***** bots)
I don't know if that works as well for a chinese as for a euro, but here's the tip...
There's a nice guide here on SRF that explains how to get money out of botters on roc mountains, it consists on buying capes and throuing them on the floor so that the bot gets them all and stop getting loot from monster. So, this way, if you are lucky, is possible to make about 3kk(selling stuff and weapons ) in a sat or sunday.
Then, when you have a nice amount of money, get you china guy, with at least 9 lvl gap on lvl 20(i say at least cause people generally leaves mastery at 10) and go to ong, find a nice killer, prefered wiz lvl 64+, and pay for power lvl. Those normal party mob gives you about 2~4sp each, and generally the wiz kills at least 3 at a time, and with champs and giants, you'd get a lot of sp per hour, much more than at den.
Pros - You could make like 30k~50k sp a week without any probs Cons - You'll have to spend A LOT of money, I'm talking about tons of gold.
And there's a easier way. If you are lucky enough, you could find a nice guild, with nice people, and ask people to power lvl you at ongs, the same way, but without spending money.
Well, hope I helped here, sry for any mistakes
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betuo
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:59 pm |
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Just sth I forgot on the previous post.
I would say it's way better to farm all at ongs, because anything above 2 lvl gaps on grinding I'd say it sucks. It may be ok during low lvls, like till lvl 40~50, but after that it would be HELL to lvl with 3+ lvl gap.
What you could do is the following, if you don't wanna farm it all at once, you could calculate all you need till the lvl you want, then calculate how much you'd get with 2 lvl gap, then the dif you farm. xD
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lothakoun
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:43 am |
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it could just be me but it feels like i can handle a 5-6 lvl gap without getting bored and i need about 600kish sp after using all of the calculators
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:59 pm |
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lothakoun wrote: it could just be me but it feels like i can handle a 5-6 lvl gap without getting bored and i need about 600kish sp after using all of the calculators HEHE go look at this topic: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=89568And you will see how fast people lvl with 6 gap:D if you enjoy getting 1% per hour with premium at a little higher lvl than have fun  Sooner or later you will get bored and stop playing or you will GO TO THE DARK SIDE.
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:24 pm |
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You could always get in a Chinese party, but as a bower there wouldn't be much need for you.
In our guild there are only a few Euros (our warrior just quit and went to Perfect World) so we end up partying with the Chinese. With cleric buffs Chinese can handle pt mobs 5-6 levels higher easily.
It's just an alternative to powerleveling/grinding.
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:51 pm |
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wow... i didnt know the exp to lvl ratio dropped that much in higher lvls so it looks like i do have to farm some 100k or 200k sp... 
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:47 pm |
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betuo wrote: Just sth I forgot on the previous post.
I would say it's way better to farm all at ongs, because anything above 2 lvl gaps on grinding I'd say it sucks. It may be ok during low lvls, like till lvl 40~50, but after that it would be HELL to lvl with 3+ lvl gap.
What you could do is the following, if you don't wanna farm it all at once, you could calculate all you need till the lvl you want, then calculate how much you'd get with 2 lvl gap, then the dif you farm. xD
Hope I helped If you're talking to me, my warior was funded to be Plvled at ongs till lvl 21 from lvl 10 with 9 gap now im taking a 2 or 3 gap forever since I want to do some quests also I 6 gapped till 30 in hun parties. Since I met a nice turk that was Plvling me for free or half the price 
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:13 am |
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so lvl 16 with a 9 lvl gap is still the best time to farm? seeing as i cant keep the 6 lvl gap i thought i was going to have throughout the game anymore
Edit: and when should i use the 60% & 100% exp helpers?
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:33 am |
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lothakoun wrote: so lvl 16 with a 9 lvl gap is still the best time to farm? seeing as i cant keep the 6 lvl gap i thought i was going to have throughout the game anymore
Edit: and when should i use the 60% & 100% exp helpers? I used mine already to farm faster xD use em when you're in a good spot and at a god farming lvl for example 16 isnt bad I used em at 21 stil lgot tons of SP with 9 cap with huns just whenever you feel you're getting alot of SP use em...Unless you wanna save em for easier lvling without premium at higher lvls...
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:15 am |
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betuo wrote: Just sth I forgot on the previous post.
I would say it's way better to farm all at ongs, because anything above 2 lvl gaps on grinding I'd say it sucks. It may be ok during low lvls, like till lvl 40~50, but after that it would be HELL to lvl with 3+ lvl gap.
What you could do is the following, if you don't wanna farm it all at once, you could calculate all you need till the lvl you want, then calculate how much you'd get with 2 lvl gap, then the dif you farm. xD
Hope I helped Well, ongs wouldnt be an option, unless he has friends to help him trade or who powerlvl him at ongs
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:52 pm |
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Since this is your first character, I'd advise you that you dont care about SP farming nor anything, and just play the game as it is ...
When you lack some SP seriously, open a little gap, and farm some SP ... Dont farm whole bunch at once, you will get bored and you will quit the game.
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Post subject: Re: how long do i sp farm? Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:41 pm |
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Nitro wrote: Since this is your first character, I'd advise you that you dont care about SP farming nor anything, and just play the game as it is ...
When you lack some SP seriously, open a little gap, and farm some SP ... Dont farm whole bunch at once, you will get bored and you will quit the game. yea thats exactly what i was looking for but i just want to make sure that my character isnt horrible when i get higher lvls and ill have sp for my skills so what do u think is an okay gap starting up for the first time? and still being an average+ character?
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