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Which blader build is better for PvPing?
Bich 90, Fire 90, 90 Light, 30 Cold 24%  24%  [ 8 ]
Bich 90, Fire 90, 90 Cold, 30 Light 18%  18%  [ 6 ]
Bich 90, Fire 90, 90 Cold, 30 Fire 9%  9%  [ 3 ]
Bich 90, Cold 90, 90 Light, 30 Fire 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Bich 90, Fire 90, 90 Force, 30 Ice 24%  24%  [ 8 ]
Bich 90, Fire 90, 60 Light, 60 Cold 21%  21%  [ 7 ]
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 Post subject: The PvP Blader Build? [EDTIED!]
PostPosted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:51 am 
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Hi, I'm planning on making a blader. I'd like to make a my
blader the best it can be for PvP. Would the best build be
Bich/Fire/Force/Light of some sort? Or maybe Bich/Fire 90
with Light and Ice at (you tell me ^^). Force would be nice
for vital spot i was thinking because then I could do more
damage making it easier to kill people. But have ice would
make me tank a little more. I have had a str character before
with low snow shield so don't tell me I won't have enough MP
because I was fine last time. What do you think?

Thanking you in advance.

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If you wanna be good in pvp as a blader...get Ice as your imbue....freeze the crap outa people with the sexy chains :)


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If you wanna be good in pvp as a blader...get Ice as your imbue....freeze the crap outa people with the sexy chains :)

and once they're immune, like 3/4 of the high lvls, then you're scrwed

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Yeah Ice imune is not a difficult thing to achive at higher levels.
Not getting Ice imbue. It won't be good at 8 and 9th D

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Well screw what I said then...lol
*I've always been to lazy to get immune to ice*
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 Post subject: Re: The PvP Blader Build?
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A.90 bicheon/90fire/90light/30 cold
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B.90 bicheon/90cold/90fire/30 light
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C.90 bicheon/90cold/90light/30 fire
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D.90 bicheon/90 fire/90 force/30 ice


A.Power and Speed in order to kill opponets with ur constant kd's and stabs, along with a lv 1 snow shield for those "just incase moments", and a high level of light to get away or chase enemys

B.Ice Imbue along with ur chains is sexy, the amount of people who are actually immune to ice are less than u actually think,even so it'd frost bite them for a fraction of a second giving u a oppotunity to pot, along with the extra def given with ice's passive/and buff not to mention u have 90 fire.

C.Same as stated above but with more parry/mag dmg alone with better capabilities or running or catching up to people.

D. Capabilites of debuffing another along with the massive str of fire imbue and a ample amount of mana for snow shield.

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Thanks for the input but yeah ice imune isn't a hard thing to get.
Very very simple actually.

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but remember, chinese players arent the only one's ur pvping, take for example euro's, players wont always have bless on and such, and when the new stones come out, to resist against stuns,bleed...etc, wheres the room for ice immunity :P

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90 bich, 90 fire, 60 light, 60 ice.


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 Post subject: Re: The PvP Blader Build?
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Depends. Blader vs. anything non-warrior or cleric, 90 fire bich forece 30 light.
Blader as a whole vs any random enemy cleric sub warrior included, go 90 fire bich 60 ice light.

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So Bich/Fire 90, Ice/Light 60 would be best?
Can that build give a warrior a beat down?

Would Bich/Fire 90, Force 68, Light 52 be any
good?

Also would Bich/Fire 90, Light 68, Ice 52 be
better than Bich/Fire 90, Ice/Light 60?

I could always buy speed drug for PvPing people.
Probs rather expensive though (N)


Wicked are you trying to say when I'm fighting
any bar warrior or clerics I'm best having
Fire/Bich/Force 90, Light 30. But to be good
against warriors and clerics and still good against
every other build (just not as good as the build
above) then I should take Fire/Bich 90, Light/Ice 60?

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 Post subject: Re: The PvP Blader Build?
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i don't really know if there's a " pvp " blader :S, but i'm guessing you mean damage dealing blader? then force is a must if you want that, since it can increase your damage with much of the force tree debuffs.

other than that, i'd go 90/90/60/60
even with 90/90/90/30 you can go with it, but depends if you know quite well the build you play.

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blinxx can you please re-phrase what you said.
It confused me haha.

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man these days everyone wants to make blader ''just cause they own in pvp'' getting boring again -_-

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at present cap go 90 bicheon 90 fire 90 ice optional light 30 thats definitely the best build for pvp for a blader for the details of skills just ask me i dont have time to make guides or elaborate a lot........damage increase in light(magical) not so much compare to defense increase in ice and fire plus u can raise a lot of ur physical damage with fire....... movespeed in light not so worth it solo days is over mate its the beggining of a new era...... party play...... bards should increase in numbers after Guardia of venus guides are posted in here

but if u foresee the future level 110 cap and 120 cap... or up for a damage dealer blader at the same time can tank go bicheon max and fire max take the KD and Stab skills mainly(at that time level 120 cap critical increase is included in this skills)....chains its ok though but the best KD and STAB for a fire blader..... for the best tank blader max bicheon and ice focus more on chains{(ice disabler and by that time also chains will have a stun status with it....who say ice would be useless then)<-----definitely a long way to go though} instead of KD and ground stab...... .....lightning blader dont exist by that time comes.....oh i forget force blader? hmmmm blader=tanker leave the extra debuffs for ints in force skill tree and high mana only ints need that remember the snow shields(mana dependent) and nukes.....

REMINDER: its all up to u now..... also think the way joymax increase the level caps


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U should go 90bich/90fire/60ice/60light cause u only loose 3 % magical damage, 18% moving speed, 4.5 m on phantom walk, and 7 parry; but u gain 76 phy defense from frost guard and passive, and u could get up to the first level of the 3rd book of snow shield. U dont need anymore 76 phy defense cause ur pure str and u hav a shield and the only thing of actually value in light for u is moving speed and loose very little of that compared to 90light. Plus, this takes a lot less sp than a 90/90/90/30 build.

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man these days everyone wants to make blader ''just cause they own in pvp'' getting boring again -_-

i still see more glaviers and archers then "good" bladers.

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okay thanks. would 52 light, 68 ice be better than 60/60?
Or I defiantly need to take 60/60?

PS. If solo days are at an end and party play will take over
make force over ice? So I can hit higher? and Ice 30. No light.
Barbs give me the speed... ???

Or Ice 90 is better than Force 90?

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Go Bich90/Fire90/Light90/ice30

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Okay time for a poll. ^^

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 Post subject: Re: The PvP Blader Build? [EDTIED!]
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90bich 90fire 90force 30ice

90bich for obvious reasons, 90fire for the imbue the buffs, the passive and the maj defense buffs, 90force for debuffs, status removal, and healing, and 30ice for snowshield and phys defense buffs. of course youll need to buy a drug of typhoon for this build otherwise everyone will simply outrun you.

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Hustlar wrote:
man these days everyone wants to make blader ''just cause they own in pvp'' getting boring again -_-


I wasnt awear bladers own at PvP. I actually get told they do not often.
I'm making one because ive always liked them but never really got to
high level with a blader.

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Bich 90, Fire 90, 90 Force, 30 Ice :)

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viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93347&p=1217413&hilit=5%3A1+blader#p1217413

5:1 with 90 bich/fire/force and 30 ice for the snow sheild

just throwing it out there, screwing around i made one its only 25, but unlike when i had a pure str blader this lvl i can acutally a mob in one imbue with a crappy blade

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bich/fire/ice 90 nd 30 lite
that is stil la good build t

thats wat im dooing....


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It would depend on what pvp situation. I'll try to help:

  1. If it's a group pvp situation...
    90bicheon/90fire/90light/30cold, with 90bicheon/90fire/60-72cold/60-48light as second.
    Why? Because with 90 light that build would have the most speed/mobility, which is important in most group pvp situations. 48-60 light as second because it has a somewhat good mobility, though higher light would be better at this situation in my opinion, because only of higher speed/mobility.
  2. If it's a 1vs1 pvp situation and your enemy is not cleric-buffed...
    90bicheon/90fire/90force/30cold, with 90bicheon/90fire/90cold/30light as second.
    Why? As you can see, force debuffs are "meant" for only 1vs1 pvping. It's debuffs would own a single target. Also, it's heals could help a group pvp situation. And fire/cold as second because it has the higher defense with both fire and ice walls maxed, with possibly both imbues maxed.
  3. If it's a 1vs1 pvp situation and your enemy is cleric-buffed...
    90bicheon/90fire/90cold/30light, with 90bicheon/90fire/72cold/48light as second.
    Why? Because this one has the highest defense, and has both fire and ice walls maxed. 72cold/48light as second because it'd still have a good defense.
These are all in general, there may be exceptions.

Do not look for the "best" build, look for the one which satisfies you the most. There's not a best build as you can see.

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ok..in my opinion a pvp build for blader would be 90 fire/bich/force ... i saw alot of this kind of characters...and they pwned

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