...... 2hander are being overpowered. Dam

PinayLoveNukes · **Posted:** Sat Jun 14, 2008 5:08 am

when the lvl 90 2hander with sub is being overpowered becuz when they use the lvl80 skill that hit three times (idk wat the skill called) each hit is like 10k+. Overpowered....... plus if he got seal of sun then.. The Chinese are screwed. =( even frooze them won't work becuz of holy bless spell =(.... Any sets you wear either full sun 9D or wat ever.... 2hander can still hit hard on you... =( so overpowered.

oKim4tsuL · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 105 **Location:**

ooh really?
i guess i'll enjoy being level 90
when i get that high. ^^

Mousetrap · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 817 **Location:**

k.. they don't get a skill at level 90 that hits three times, they get a skill called DareDevil at 90 that hits twice, and yes it's very powerful.
They get triple swing at 70, which obviously hits three times, but the hits aren't 10k+.

K a R e E m · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 597 **Location:**

there's many things make u avoid that
-ironwall shield
-'BLOCK'
-KD
-KB
-warior attack veeeeeery slow and warior is the slowest without bard so u can own with ranged attacks
-... that's all i remember

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

K a R e E m wrote:

there's many things make u avoid that
-ironwall shield
-'BLOCK'
-KD
-KB
-warior attack veeeeeery slow and warior is the slowest without bard so u can own with ranged attacks
-... that's all i remember

-15 seconds is nothing, think about the warrior that has 45 seconds skins, 45 seconds bless, then 30 more seconds for that all over again. Epic defense and attack.

- blocking ratio on 2handers weapon, but yes thats the best defense :wink:

-weak, and u cant knock them down when they stun you or knock you back, they have more knock back skills (4 of them bash, daredevil, spring assualt, and double knockback from daredevil) and their sprint assault does both 40% stuna and over 60% kb. They also have knock down with turn rising.

- that just gives them time to repot, and the gap can be closed instantly with sprint assault which also probably gets you stunned or knocked back yourself.

- typhoon, and the skills are not slow. The common attack is slow, but the actual skills are pretty fast.

yes its overpowered. The only thing that has stopped them from dominating a server has been the lack of suns, but now that euro suns are dropping then its a broken game. The only build to stop them is a 90 ice snow shield s/s or 90 ice blader, and thats if you have complete critical parry and BR on your shield and spam knockdown so you dont recieve the daredevil crit. Then get 3 people on the warrior and interrupt all his skills and kill him lol. You can also run away when he does bless or skins, then come back when he has no defense, 2 nukes will kill him or if youre a spear user flame wave wide + ghost spear.

Blinxx · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 463 **Location:**

Mousetrap wrote:

k.. they don't get a skill at level 90 that hits three times, they get a skill called DareDevil at 90 that hits twice, and yes it's very powerful.
They get triple swing at 70, which obviously hits three times, but the hits aren't 10k+.

lvl 80 Dare devil
2 successive time/times

crits can go up to even 13k with ONE hit from daredevil
seen it with my own eyes.

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

Blinxx wrote:

Mousetrap wrote:

k.. they don't get a skill at level 90 that hits three times, they get a skill called DareDevil at 90 that hits twice, and yes it's very powerful.
They get triple swing at 70, which obviously hits three times, but the hits aren't 10k+.

lvl 80 Dare devil
2 successive time/times

crits can go up to even 13k with ONE hit from daredevil
seen it with my own eyes.

yep, one crit from daredevil stacks to 16-18k dmg after the second hit.
11k-13k+6k-6.5k
a normal twin non-crit is as much as a chinese nuke..prob like 12k depending on opponents gears.

and cuz its euro, the crit is always double the base attack cuz theyre FULL str, not hybrids like chinese.

a twin daredevil crit can occur i would say 10% of the time, triple swing triple crits arent too rare either (maybe also close to 5-10%?) but its harder to do it on shield users with crit parry.

twin daredevil crits can take down sun bladers.
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the instant turn rising kills em off.

of course, a crit 12+ sword helps. thats only 75% max crit, and lvl 90 concentration passive gives you crit 9 increase. Crit 21 ftw. I would shoot for crit 14+ though hehe.
makes me wanna play my warrior, too bad premiums out and babel is the most impossible servet to log into.

borat2 · **Posted:** Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:54 pm

Good luck beating this guy
http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=84225

Mousetrap · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 817 **Location:**

Blinxx wrote:

Mousetrap wrote:

k.. they don't get a skill at level 90 that hits three times, they get a skill called DareDevil at 90 that hits twice, and yes it's very powerful.
They get triple swing at 70, which obviously hits three times, but the hits aren't 10k+.

lvl 80 Dare devil
2 successive time/times

crits can go up to even 13k with ONE hit from daredevil
seen it with my own eyes.

I meant 80, mah bad.

QuestionMark · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 161 **Location:**

http://www.rev6.com/player.asp?id=84225
that guy is un beatable

LockStar. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 948 **Location:**

Fudge pretty much sum it all up.

From my side - 2h Warrior/Cleric is the MOST efficient build in this game. First you have bless and recovery for all of your party, Screens, wearing Light Armor and Cleric rod out makes you an ultimate tank against anything which from another side makes you very efficient against Pure INTs with your Absolute damage skills regardless of their defense and fences, and lats but not least the Insane damage you deal.

For me - This is the best build out of both chinese and euro aslong as you can afford the speed drugs.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:15 am

pffff
He means triple swing i think...but yea DD is pretty overpowered...if you have 1H, give dull, switch to two hand, KD and triple swing. You get two 50% damage increase multipliers from dull + kd on the triple swing (dont even try and contest it i know for a FACT that dull + kd is a double 50% multiplier). I crit bladers for 12-13k with that.

EvilOrder · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 147 **Location:**

i think a rogue or wizard can 1hit ur lovely 2hunded
he is not over powerd and that hit trpile 1 cant do more than 10k
thats not real so no need to talk about it

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

EvilOrder wrote:

i think a rogue or wizard can 1hit ur lovely 2hunded
he is not over powerd and that hit trpile 1 cant do more than 10k
thats not real so no need to talk about it

skins or bless and the rogue/wiz is dead.
not only that but warriors have vital increase.
i dont know what the max hp for warriors at 90 is but its somewhere around 35k hp cuz at lvl 88 vital increase raises your hp by 9,259.

the rogue or wiz isnt one hitting that, not even two hitting that.

painsit · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 67 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

EvilOrder wrote:

i think a rogue or wizard can 1hit ur lovely 2hunded
he is not over powerd and that hit trpile 1 cant do more than 10k
thats not real so no need to talk about it

skins or bless and the rogue/wiz is dead.
not only that but warriors have vital increase.
i dont know what the max hp for warriors at 90 is but its somewhere around 35k hp cuz at lvl 88 vital increase raises your hp by 9,259.

the rogue or wiz isnt one hitting that, not even two hitting that.

Any good wizard\rague should be the one who attacked first. As far as I know, not many warriors use vital increase in PvP. And, a warrior should be considered lucky if he was attacked with bless and\or skins ON. Easily kills any build.

And, dont forget about cooldowns, even vital increase(VI) has a very long cooldawn. Switch cleric, bye bye VI.

Anyway, IMO chineese builds lost miserable against 2H\cleric most of the time.

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

painsit wrote:

Any good wizard\rague should be the one who attacked first. As far as I know, not many warriors use vital increase in PvP. And, a warrior should be considered lucky if he was attacked with bless and\or skins ON. Easily kills any build.

And, dont forget about cooldowns, even vital increase(VI) has a very long cooldawn. Switch cleric, bye bye VI.

Anyway, IMO chineese builds lost miserable against 2H\cleric most of the time.

ranted but deleted cuz it really comes down to the person behind the build, and honestly its sad that idiots play this game. i hate people who dont know how to play their build, might as well quit. A decent warrior knows when to use the different skills that are provided by the warrior line and their subcleric line.

and to end this debate, yes 2handers are overpowered.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

painsit wrote:

Any good wizard\rague should be the one who attacked first. As far as I know, not many warriors use vital increase in PvP. And, a warrior should be considered lucky if he was attacked with bless and\or skins ON. Easily kills any build.

And, dont forget about cooldowns, even vital increase(VI) has a very long cooldawn. Switch cleric, bye bye VI.

Anyway, IMO chineese builds lost miserable against 2H\cleric most of the time.

ranted but deleted cuz it really comes down to the person behind the build, and honestly its sad that idiots play this game. i hate people who dont know how to play their build, might as well quit. A decent warrior knows when to use the different skills that are provided by the warrior line and their subcleric line.

and to end this debate, yes 2handers are overpowered.
at lvl 80 i can do 40k without zerk to a lvl 80 giant with one skill, no other build can do that unless a cleric offers. btw im using a regular +5.

Maddening much? What ...giant is debuffed like hell?
*Checks Youtube video - Euro New skills* ... 2h Warrior hits 8k with Daredevil with 85 sword (probabbly 85) ... Daredevil is 305% ... Maddening about 487% ... (double the amount... not really, but lets take it double ...) ... He'd prolly hit 16k with Maddening (btw ... maddening ends at 72-73) --> Critical is 32k ... with a BIG "I doubt" ... so ... You're bullshitting Mr. :!:

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

Nitro wrote:

MrFudge wrote:

painsit wrote:

Any good wizard\rague should be the one who attacked first. As far as I know, not many warriors use vital increase in PvP. And, a warrior should be considered lucky if he was attacked with bless and\or skins ON. Easily kills any build.

And, dont forget about cooldowns, even vital increase(VI) has a very long cooldawn. Switch cleric, bye bye VI.

Anyway, IMO chineese builds lost miserable against 2H\cleric most of the time.

ranted but deleted cuz it really comes down to the person behind the build, and honestly its sad that idiots play this game. i hate people who dont know how to play their build, might as well quit. A decent warrior knows when to use the different skills that are provided by the warrior line and their subcleric line.

and to end this debate, yes 2handers are overpowered.
at lvl 80 i can do 40k without zerk to a lvl 80 giant with one skill, no other build can do that unless a cleric offers. btw im using a regular +5.

Maddening much? What ...giant is debuffed like hell?
*Checks Youtube video - Euro New skills* ... 2h Warrior hits 8k with Daredevil with 85 sword (probabbly 85) ... Daredevil is 305% ... Maddening about 487% ... (double the amount... not really, but lets take it double ...) ... He'd prolly hit 16k with Maddening (btw ... maddening ends at 72-73) --> Critical is 32k ... with a BIG "I doubt" ... so ... You're bullshitting Mr. :!:

i said one skill, but daredevil hits twice.
two 20k crits =P
80k with zerk.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

Nitro wrote:

MrFudge wrote:

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ranted but deleted cuz it really comes down to the person behind the build, and honestly its sad that idiots play this game. i hate people who dont know how to play their build, might as well quit. A decent warrior knows when to use the different skills that are provided by the warrior line and their subcleric line.

and to end this debate, yes 2handers are overpowered.
at lvl 80 i can do 40k without zerk to a lvl 80 giant with one skill, no other build can do that unless a cleric offers. btw im using a regular +5.

Maddening much? What ...giant is debuffed like hell?
*Checks Youtube video - Euro New skills* ... 2h Warrior hits 8k with Daredevil with 85 sword (probabbly 85) ... Daredevil is 305% ... Maddening about 487% ... (double the amount... not really, but lets take it double ...) ... He'd prolly hit 16k with Maddening (btw ... maddening ends at 72-73) --> Critical is 32k ... with a BIG "I doubt" ... so ... You're bullshitting Mr. :!:

i said one skill, but daredevil hits twice.
two 20k crits =P
80k with zerk.

Lol ^^ ... sorry xD :oops:

Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

OMFG this overpower crap again...all class are balance
all depends on gear.

can a:
warrior kill a blader yes
blader kills a warrior yes
glavier kills a warrior yes
warrior kills a glavier yes
wizard kills a warrior yes
warrior kills a wizard yes
rogue kills a warrior yes
warrior kills a rogue yes
nuker kills warriors yes
warriors kills nuker yes
cleric kills warriors yes
warriors kills cleric yes
bow kills warrior yes
warriors kills bow yes

when it comes to pvp. it will all depend on gear/luck/crits/stun/kb/kd/player skills

atm not all players have final tier gear...someone with a 85+ weapon can kill u easily even with snow 50%+ if u are a nuker with poor gear.

Sesshomaru · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 2 **Location:**

yes thats true it will all depend on ones supply

Inspiration · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 67 **Location:**

Ragnorak wrote:

OMFG this overpower crap again...all class are balance
all depends on gear.

can a:
warrior kill a blader yes
blader kills a warrior yes
glavier kills a warrior yes
warrior kills a glavier yes
wizard kills a warrior yes
warrior kills a wizard yes
rogue kills a warrior yes
warrior kills a rogue yes
nuker kills warriors yes
warriors kills nuker yes
cleric kills warriors yes
warriors kills cleric yes
bow kills warrior yes
warriors kills bow yes

when it comes to pvp. it will all depend on gear/luck/crits/stun/kb/kd/player skills

atm not all players have final tier gear...someone with a 85+ weapon can kill u easily even with snow 50%+ if u are a nuker with poor gear.

This man speaks the truth.

nicolasvc2 · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 404 **Location:** no loca

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LockStar. · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 948 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

painsit wrote:

Any good wizard\rague should be the one who attacked first. As far as I know, not many warriors use vital increase in PvP. And, a warrior should be considered lucky if he was attacked with bless and\or skins ON. Easily kills any build.

And, dont forget about cooldowns, even vital increase(VI) has a very long cooldawn. Switch cleric, bye bye VI.

Anyway, IMO chineese builds lost miserable against 2H\cleric most of the time.

ranted but deleted cuz it really comes down to the person behind the build, and honestly its sad that idiots play this game. i hate people who dont know how to play their build, might as well quit. A decent warrior knows when to use the different skills that are provided by the warrior line and their subcleric line.

and to end this debate, yes 2handers are overpowered.
at lvl 80 i can do 40k without zerk to a lvl 80 giant with one skill, no other build can do that unless a cleric offers. btw im using a regular +5.

To add to the wizard part - A Warrior/Cleric is your ultimate wizard pwnager. Wear some light armor on that thing, switch to your Rod and nicely done Shield, get them defense buffs up.. at 80 with +4 gay protectors I could top 1800mag defense with 20k of hp, once you see that thing come out of invisible cast Healing Orbit (Cycle is faster and not that much difference in healing), simply 1 skill the wizard with your Absoluteness damage regardless of the 251251251 bless and screens it got on.

Warrior/Cleric > all of you wizards, rogue/warlocks and bla bla whatever shit you bring out. In theory and in practice as I have already seen myself.

Verfo · **Posted:** Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:14 am

wat a bout a warlock, he can stun/sleep a warrior, then the warrior is pretty uselss

NobleHunter · **Posted:** Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:11 am

Actually rogue/warlock or hybrid cleric/warlock would be the best builds to kill a 2h cleric, even with holy word or expensive pills, sleep status cannot be cured like decayed or impotent status. Dagger rogue would be the first choice to kill a warrior/cleric, because of their damage dealing speed and their chances to get criticals, about the cleric/warlock, if he is able to tank the warrior for a while, he can just fry it with an offering. Anyways, the 2h/cleric is the most difficult build to kill imo, they can tank, deal amazing amounts of damage with each hit, and besides they are very versatile. I understand why people say its overpowered.

Astra · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 535 **Location:**

Asy's 2 hander can crit you up to 100k. (230k zerked on a wing tribe)
85+7 Crit15 (+100%)

Makaveli · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 198 **Location:**

Verfo wrote:

wat a bout a warlock, he can stun/sleep a warrior, then the warrior is pretty uselss

pills ftw

NobleHunter · **Posted:** Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:59 am

Makaveli wrote:

Verfo wrote:

wat a bout a warlock, he can stun/sleep a warrior, then the warrior is pretty uselss

pills ftw

Sleep status cant be pilled away like other status, it takes time to recover from sleep.

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

NobleHunter wrote:

Makaveli wrote:

Verfo wrote:

wat a bout a warlock, he can stun/sleep a warrior, then the warrior is pretty uselss

pills ftw

Sleep status cant be pilled away like other status, it takes time to recover from sleep.

sleep doesnt work on holy spell.

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