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 Post subject: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:06 am 
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I was wondering, which would be a better build for a pure str fire glavie? 90 hes,90 fire,90 light,30 cold or 90 hes,90 fire,70 light,50 cold. Im stuck between these 2 builds and need someone else's opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:09 am 
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Depends on what kinda Gear you are wearing if you are using garments 70 light 50 cold would be a good choice but if you are protector it would be beter to pick 90 light and 30 cold and it depends on your fighting style 2 etc,

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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:11 am 
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Okay thanks, Im gonna be wearing garmet so ill just go 70 light and 50 cold.

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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:06 am 
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I would go for :

Heuksal 90
Fire 90
Light 60
Cold 60

50 cold gives not much phy defence.. and 90 light has not much difference from 60.

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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:03 pm 
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AnarChaos wrote:
I would go for :

Heuksal 90
Fire 90
Light 60
Cold 60

50 cold gives not much phy defence.. and 90 light has not much difference from 60.

Is 60 Light and 60 Ice really a good build for a Pure STR Galvie at 90?
Is 84 phy.def (42buff+4passive) really gonna do anything worth losing ~15% speed and Parry?
Isn't it better with 80 Light and 20 Ice (for 20% Snow)


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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:57 am 
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I_R_Powerpuff wrote:
AnarChaos wrote:
I would go for :

Heuksal 90
Fire 90
Light 60
Cold 60

50 cold gives not much phy defence.. and 90 light has not much difference from 60.

Is 60 Light and 60 Ice really a good build for a Pure STR Galvie at 90?
Is 84 phy.def (42buff+4passive) really gonna do anything worth losing ~15% speed and Parry?
Isn't it better with 80 Light and 20 Ice (for 20% Snow)


1st of all, 60light 60ice saves u 100+k sp than 90light 30ice (dun believe me? go nivlam calculate urself)
1 skill at lvl 80-90 cost u 3k-5k sp

u think 70+% movespeed is gonna be enough in jobwar/fw? every 1 is using 100% drug in those important fights, and 15% more movespeed aint really that noticeable (60light = 59% speed)

parry buff, now thats the biggest joke out of ALL sro skills, its NOT worth the sp, unless u wanna spend 4k sp on 1 parry increase at lvl 80+? den i got nothing to say

u are gonna lose juz like 10-15 parry or so light 60 vs 90, u can easily make that up with full parry blues at ur gear and WHITE STATS of ur clothes
(0% vs 60% White stats of 84 pants parry is already 15-18 diff already)

the only thing worth discussing in light is only ghost walk distance, light 60 u lose 3.5m compared to 90

so if u really love the blue colour ghost walk, get light to 72 or 80 max, the rest goes to ice, light90 for a STR MELEE BUILD is only for those who hv nowhere else to spend their SP

84 phy def may not be that significant, thats true, but compare it to those 10 parry increase, 100+k sp more needed, 10% more movespeed, 3m more ghost walk

i rather take that little bit of extra phy def...the choice is yours :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:53 am 
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CLOT wrote:
I_R_Powerpuff wrote:
AnarChaos wrote:
I would go for :

Heuksal 90
Fire 90
Light 60
Cold 60

50 cold gives not much phy defence.. and 90 light has not much difference from 60.

Is 60 Light and 60 Ice really a good build for a Pure STR Galvie at 90?
Is 84 phy.def (42buff+4passive) really gonna do anything worth losing ~15% speed and Parry?
Isn't it better with 80 Light and 20 Ice (for 20% Snow)


1st of all, 60light 60ice saves u 100+k sp than 90light 30ice (dun believe me? go nivlam calculate urself)
1 skill at lvl 80-90 cost u 3k-5k sp

u think 70+% movespeed is gonna be enough in jobwar/fw? every 1 is using 100% drug in those important fights, and 15% more movespeed aint really that noticeable (60light = 59% speed)

parry buff, now thats the biggest joke out of ALL sro skills, its NOT worth the sp, unless u wanna spend 4k sp on 1 parry increase at lvl 80+? den i got nothing to say

u are gonna lose juz like 10-15 parry or so light 60 vs 90, u can easily make that up with full parry blues at ur gear and WHITE STATS of ur clothes
(0% vs 60% White stats of 84 pants parry is already 15-18 diff already)

the only thing worth discussing in light is only ghost walk distance, light 60 u lose 3.5m compared to 90

so if u really love the blue colour ghost walk, get light to 72 or 80 max, the rest goes to ice, light90 for a STR MELEE BUILD is only for those who hv nowhere else to spend their SP

84 phy def may not be that significant, thats true, but compare it to those 10 parry increase, 100+k sp more needed, 10% more movespeed, 3m more ghost walk

i rather take that little bit of extra phy def...the choice is yours :wink:


The main reason why i take such high Lighting cuz i am wearing protector and i don't need phy Defence but i do need the extra speend and in my figthing syle i use the Ghost walk allot

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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:19 am 
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CLOT wrote:
I_R_Powerpuff wrote:
AnarChaos wrote:
I would go for :

Heuksal 90
Fire 90
Light 60
Cold 60

50 cold gives not much phy defence.. and 90 light has not much difference from 60.

Is 60 Light and 60 Ice really a good build for a Pure STR Galvie at 90?
Is 84 phy.def (42buff+4passive) really gonna do anything worth losing ~15% speed and Parry?
Isn't it better with 80 Light and 20 Ice (for 20% Snow)


1st of all, 60light 60ice saves u 100+k sp than 90light 30ice (dun believe me? go nivlam calculate urself)
1 skill at lvl 80-90 cost u 3k-5k sp

u think 70+% movespeed is gonna be enough in jobwar/fw? every 1 is using 100% drug in those important fights, and 15% more movespeed aint really that noticeable (60light = 59% speed)

parry buff, now thats the biggest joke out of ALL sro skills, its NOT worth the sp, unless u wanna spend 4k sp on 1 parry increase at lvl 80+? den i got nothing to say

u are gonna lose juz like 10-15 parry or so light 60 vs 90, u can easily make that up with full parry blues at ur gear and WHITE STATS of ur clothes
(0% vs 60% White stats of 84 pants parry is already 15-18 diff already)

the only thing worth discussing in light is only ghost walk distance, light 60 u lose 3.5m compared to 90

so if u really love the blue colour ghost walk, get light to 72 or 80 max, the rest goes to ice, light90 for a STR MELEE BUILD is only for those who hv nowhere else to spend their SP

84 phy def may not be that significant, thats true, but compare it to those 10 parry increase, 100+k sp more needed, 10% more movespeed, 3m more ghost walk

i rather take that little bit of extra phy def...the choice is yours :wink:

Okay, thanks!
Do you also know abt how much dmg reduce the 84phy.def would give when its lvl 90 glaive vs lvl 90 STR? Like only 200 of a 5000 damageng skill or more/less.


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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:41 am 
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prot, hmm for a str, u will have a hard time fighting wiz/chinese pure int nukers
the phy def u get fr prot aint worth the mag def u lost fr garm...really

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Do you also know abt how much dmg reduce the 84phy.def would give when its lvl 90 glaive vs lvl 90 STR? Like only 200 of a 5000 damageng skill or more/less.


and the 10 parry diff? its will be only like 50 out of 5000 damage? :banghead: i doubt u can even take notice of that diff

well if u wanna spend 4-5k sp on every 1 parry increase, every 3% movespeed, go ahead no 1 gonna stop u :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
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CLOT wrote:
prot, hmm for a str, u will have a hard time fighting wiz/chinese pure int nukers
the phy def u get fr prot aint worth the mag def u lost fr garm...really

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Do you also know abt how much dmg reduce the 84phy.def would give when its lvl 90 glaive vs lvl 90 STR? Like only 200 of a 5000 damageng skill or more/less?


and the 10 parry diff? its will be only like 50 out of 5000 damage? :banghead: i doubt u can even take notice of that diff

well if u wanna spend 4-5k sp on every 1 parry increase, every 3% movespeed, go ahead no 1 gonna stop u :wink:

Im actually skipping 90 light for the SP... but do you know the dmg reduce from 84 extra phy.def?


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 Post subject: Re: Pure STR Glavie Question
PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:36 pm 
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dun really know the dmg reduce fr 84 phy def, it wouldnt be that much

but i tested with parry
with electric shock status (minus like 150+ parry fr me), rocky giant do 1.5k dmg, w/o that shock, ard 1.2k dmg

so 150 parry for ard 300 dmg
15 parry is 30 dmg (yea well, i know its juz a mob, a player will give much more dmg than a mob)

84 phy def would be more than that i guess, but definitely not much more, maybe juz 100-200 dmg diff

wouldnt be that noticeable either

so its a "phy def vs. more sp + more ghost walk dist." thing

u decide :wink:

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