str blader with no ice

aristotle202 · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 32 **Location:**

ok how about this build for 90 cap

90 bich
90 fire
90 light
30 spear

with spear u get hp with ice u get a lil bit of defence

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

30 ice is better than 30 heuk for hp.
u get a low snow shield for emergencies, and that hp u gain is almost insignificant at higher lvls if its only at lvl 3.

CLOT · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 825 **Location:**

MrFudge wrote:

30 ice is better than 30 heuk for hp.
u get a low snow shield for emergencies, and that hp u gain is almost insignificant at higher lvls if its only at lvl 3.

hmm u get like 500 hp wif 30 spear?

while at 80/90 u get at least 3k dmg per hit

Chess · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 200 **Location:**

You get 329 hp

Could you use Fan Storm and Wolf storm as well to help?

ln · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 374 **Location:**

CLOT wrote:

hmm u get like 500 hp wif 30 spear?

while at 80/90 u get at least 3k dmg per hit

lol ... yeah ... just enough extra hp to suck the last pot for that vital final KD+stabbbbbb? may be good enough.

between cold and spear for 30, i'd probably go for spear. that mana shield may just suck me out of mp for any attack. also, mana shield only last for 120sec. +HP passive stays, rain or shine.

antics · **Posted:** Tue May 13, 2008 3:40 pm

i do think mana shield is bad for str char if they have crappy mp
u wont be able to do anything against a strong nuker/wiz/rogue
just em with a normal attack an imbue

Ningyotsukai-san · **Posted:** Tue May 13, 2008 4:37 pm

I'd have to say go w/ 30 ice, like the others before me said

the xxx amount of hp you get from the low heuksal mastery is insignificant ....like CLOT said, when you get damage from opponents in the thousands, 300 give or take, isn't gonna make much of a difference.

and with a snow shield, you'll reduce the damage you take, but you gotta make sure you got enough int / mp on your gears if you plan on using your skills as well.

basically, I'd take a lil bit more defense over a little bit of hp anyday.

CLOT · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 825 **Location:**

its not that bad, glaive hit u 4k, 4k x 0.2 = 800
pure int nuker nuke 8-10k, 20% its 1.6-2k mp
at 80 full pimped now i hv ard 4k mp, stil 2k mp more to use skill and 90 cap u get 6 int blues instead of 5 and 600 mp instead of 400

not as bad as every 1 make out to be

uBeR · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 966 **Location:**

Here's something novel: get neither the ice or the heuksal.

salmissra · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1487 **Location:**

go with the ice...not the heuksal.

alZen · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 657 **Location:**

CLOT wrote:

its not that bad, glaive hit u 4k, 4k x 0.2 = 800
pure int nuker nuke 8-10k, 20% its 1.6-2k mp
at 80 full pimped now i hv ard 4k mp, stil 2k mp more to use skill and 90 cap u get 6 int blues instead of 5 and 600 mp instead of 400

not as bad as every 1 make out to be

i think it is bad enough. because the mp potting may not be fast enough to allow you make your next attack. the skills and imbues used at higher levels are quite mp drinkers.

painsit · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 67 **Location:**

Go with ice.
HP increase won't help you much if you are under heavy attack.
On the other hand, snow shield will save you most of the time.

Greater the attack, greater the snow shield benefit. Must have skill for all CAPs. However, at later CAPs, you won't even notice the HP increase of heuskal.

CLOT · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 825 **Location:**

alZen wrote:

CLOT wrote:

its not that bad, glaive hit u 4k, 4k x 0.2 = 800
pure int nuker nuke 8-10k, 20% its 1.6-2k mp
at 80 full pimped now i hv ard 4k mp, stil 2k mp more to use skill and 90 cap u get 6 int blues instead of 5 and 600 mp instead of 400

not as bad as every 1 make out to be

i think it is bad enough. because the mp potting may not be fast enough to allow you make your next attack. the skills and imbues used at higher levels are quite mp drinkers.

ok to put it simple, i hv a 80 blader now, i cant survive a wiz meteor (wif life control +5 staff) or a dagger on DD
but i can survive them with 25% snowshield and win most of the time

that 350+ hp wouldnt help survive any of those builds in any way...
its not about talking, u need to try to feel it =.=

Phix · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 716 **Location:** Ephesus

i prefer a Pure str Blade/Light only (for after 100 cap) since bladers need to be able to catch up with their pray (Ghost Walk Phantom)

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