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 Post subject: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:47 am 
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i will say fast

1. COLD MAKE SMALL damge
2. i know it make effect but u can just use a univirsal pill
((univirsal pills is no delay
3. and like that cold make a small damge and its effect can be removed

((((this was in PVP))))
but when monsters its very gooood what about u guys what u say
im talking about nukers and wizards (cuz they use cold)
i know cold buffs ok but i meant COLD ATTACKS
plz understand me good

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:09 am 
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Who said you have to use Cold Imbue? Theres phy def buff which gives hell a lot phy def.. Also don`t forget about the passive.. And for someone theres snow shield also.. >.>

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:38 pm 
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i know cold buffs ok but i meant COLD ATTACKS

i think i said that in my 1st post i was talking about ATTACKS in that 1

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
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im not sure any nuker get ice for imbue...
bladers get ice to annoy people more xD

even the ice nukes are weak but they look cool so people spend a lil sp on them, why not!
the ice mastery for me is just as a defence, nothing else

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im pure INT s/s with light as my imbue, i only use cold imbue when im using chains and bicheon to annoy people :)

cold is for the snow shield, cold nukes the lvl 50 one is very good considering it hits 5 simultaneously and for the ice guard

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
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You post title reads: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY (QFT). To then reduce the discussion just about the attacks is IMHO unfair. Very few people take cold for their attacks. Cold is primarily taken for the phy buff, the phy passive, and snow shield. In addition, I've always found the use of frost nova to be very effective in case things just get a little too crowded.

In any case: either change the title of your post, or make a good argument about why cold is no good without limiting it to your view on the cold attack power.

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
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penfold1992 wrote:
im not sure any nuker get ice for imbue...
even the ice nukes are weak but they look cool so people spend a lil sp on them, why not!


Hm.. But ice imbue is very effective on euros... >.> Only if they`re not sub clerics ( Or main ) and they don`t have a friend which is a high lvl cleric.. I use sometimes ice imbue ( second book lvl 4 ) .. I can kill a lvl 74-75 wariors ( I`m 73 in garms hybrid int ) almost wihtout any problems.. So you should think about it..

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:47 pm 
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2. i know it make effect but u can just use a univirsal pill
((univirsal pills is no delay


who says no delay?
aft u pill freezing off, ur skills will still be delayed
and frostbite cancels ur attacks too even it can be pilled off

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__ViRuS__ wrote:
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i know cold buffs ok but i meant COLD ATTACKS

i think i said that in my 1st post i was talking about ATTACKS in that 1


you mean the imbue right?

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
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__ViRuS__ wrote:
i will say fast

2. i know it make effect but u can just use a univirsal pill
((univirsal pills is no delay

3. and like that cold make a small damge and its effect can be removed

plz understand me good


righty every tried having a 80 archer pumping you full with arrows with ice imbue ? 5/4/3 arrow combo ? trust me those uni pills won't work anymore

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__ViRuS__ surely knows what he is talking about.
/sarcasm

All force trees are very useful depending on your build. There is not a thing such as a best one, it just depends on your build.

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cold isn't very good in pvp. but in pvn its excellent! i have a lvl 37 cold\lightning archer (2 imbunes) lightning i find i good for pvp and cold is good for pvn (person vs nature)

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brentonsbbe359 wrote:
cold isn't very good in pvp. but in pvn its excellent! i have a lvl 37 cold\lightning archer (2 imbunes) lightning i find i good for pvp and cold is good for pvn (person vs nature)

Cold actually is very usefull in pvp. If you face ppl without immunity, they prolly wont be able to kill you, even if they pill. There is a ton of people that aint immune yet (at the cap, because below it almost no one is immune without cleric), though at group pvp, it prolly wont be useful, cause most of the good "groups" will have a cleric that will make everyone immune. Agree that in pvn its excelent.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:42 pm 
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CLOT wrote:
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2. i know it make effect but u can just use a univirsal pill
((univirsal pills is no delay


who says no delay?
aft u pill freezing off, ur skills will still be delayed
and frostbite cancels ur attacks too even it can be pilled off


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one of my rangers, lv 38 can get a lv 45 blader using cold. all i have to do is keep using combo relays. and pwn them. cuz the pills glitch up using so many because my combos with imbue is a 100% freeze or frost. so yes, its good for lower lvls imo. but then comes holy spell and holy word...

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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:30 am 
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ya until cap ice in pvp is still useful in freezing. afterwards the uni pill still causes delay in atk which can be useful. as well the ice rain nuke is pretty awesome, so cold attacks and cold in general can be pretty useful.


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 Post subject: Re: IS COLD GOOD (i say no) here is WHY
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:01 am 
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low lvl ice imbune is good considering i can still freeze generals with my glaiver using noob ice ocean force imbue, freezing the mobs allows wizards and other euros time to pot back up if they were being smashed by the general. since i am pure str and im in 8 pt with nukers all the time, the extra 200-500dmg increase i get with soul fire force doesnt make a difference and will only waste my mp.


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