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 Post subject: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:58 am 
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How much of a gap to 80 would be needed for a full farmed dag/xbow rogue w/ bard or cleric sub (btw which of those two subs is better)

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 Post subject: Re: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:41 am 
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But I would drop the sub lol. >_>
Why would you need bard when you have scud? And why would you need cleric when you oen hit everyone? =D

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 Post subject: Re: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
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If you PvE alot (alone) go bard for noise and speed
If you PvE alot in pt's and PvP pretty often, cleric would be better.

Use http://www.nivlam.com/euro to calculate how much sp you need and then use http://www.nivlam.com/sp to determin what gap you need, and when : )

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 Post subject: Re: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:01 pm 
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BloodyBlade wrote:
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But I would drop the sub lol. >_>
Why would you need bard when you have scud? And why would you need cleric when you oen hit everyone? =D


Dropping sub just to save sp? Thats real stupid imo. I wouldn't do that,especially on a euro character.

Both Bard and Cleric are fine, it depends on your style of play in PvP too. If you would rather stay stealth all of the time and do hit-and run tactics, go for Bard. If you would rather run out and kill fuckers 1 by 1 go for cleric.

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 Post subject: Re: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:06 pm 
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Bard would be fun with noise. you just run up to some guy in hit him in the back a acouple tiems a BAM! he's dead = ]


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 Post subject: Re: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
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bard is best for any pve... solo or group

rogues need noise to stop them from being attacked by back so they can stand outside party area and run around to crowd control...

what's rogue going to do as cleric? heal once then run out of mp for 15 seconds?


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 Post subject: Re: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:02 pm 
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bard allows you to run, but since xbow is most effective in pve, speed isnt neccessary, you stand and snipe. as for -_-, if you pvp how will speed help you against chinese once you come out of stealth? try and run back to safe spot? chinese have phantom walk and nukes, warriors have sprint assault. unless your only goal is to run back to safe zone, if you have more than two opps you're gonna die anyways. and during job wars or whatever, you wont do too well crowd controllign with daggers. once you come out of stealth and kill one guy all the tohers will target you, xbow in this case would be more efefctive. but for sub though both can have their advantages i still find cleric to be more helpful. and no you dont cast hals drainin your mp, you cast recovery division so it stays on, and if you really need to bless spell. meanin you pot once and have 5 min of extra healing on top of pots as well as a temporary boost in def.


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 Post subject: Re: Dagger/Xbow rogue w/ sub
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BloodyBlade wrote:
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But I would drop the sub lol. >_>
Why would you need bard when you have scud? And why would you need cleric when you oen hit everyone? =D


Dropping sub just to save sp? Thats real stupid imo. I wouldn't do that,especially on a euro character.

Both Bard and Cleric are fine, it depends on your style of play in PvP too. If you would rather stay stealth all of the time and do hit-and run tactics, go for Bard. If you would rather run out and kill fuckers 1 by 1 go for cleric.

Well, you can always take a subclass, but the rogue doesnt need one..
You can survive without it

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