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 Post subject: Best Build For Hunter?
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:59 pm 
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Hey all. Just wanted to see what your thoughts were on the best class for a Hunter.

I was thinking something that is hard to burst down yet still has the damage to kill the thieves.. Maybe a Prot wearing Glaiver or 2h Warrior?

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 Post subject: Re: Best Build For Hunter?
PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:38 pm 
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...Maybe a Prot wearing Glaiver...


[A Glavier wearing Prot won't go very good against Pure Int like S/S... but against a Str thief it will rock...

Glavie is a good idea for a Hunter (I see tons of Glavie Hunter everyday, so I think that u r in a good way)


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 Post subject: Re: Best Build For Hunter?
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2H/cleric of course, when you look carefully all the warrior/cleric skills you realize they are meant to be hunters, they can tank better than any other class, protect and buff comrades (traders and other hunters), and they also can deal superb damage. They are the most versatile build, as i said before they are meant to be hunters, the best hunters.

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2H Warrior, good damage and it could tank. If you were in a party, you would dominate the thieves.

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imo any build can be hunter. the way to play them differs from build to build. pure str are good to hold off attacks. heavy dmg dealers do better staying in the sidelines and pick out the thieves 1 by 1. thieves that are heavy dmg dealers like wizards and nukers are more advantage for quick strikes. for longer battles, the tankers are needed.


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2H/cleric of course, when you look carefully all the warrior/cleric skills you realize they are meant to be hunters, they can tank better than any other class, protect and buff comrades (traders and other hunters), and they also can deal superb damage. They are the most versatile build, as i said before they are meant to be hunters, the best hunters.


They sure can tank, but do you know how hard killing a spawn with a 2h warrior is?

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 Post subject: Re: Best Build For Hunter?
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u need someone that can resist, but at the same time u need to protect ur comrades fast, so a bowman would be good, in csro job wars bowmans are almost impossible to kill

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2H/cleric of course, when you look carefully all the warrior/cleric skills you realize they are meant to be hunters, they can tank better than any other class, protect and buff comrades (traders and other hunters), and they also can deal superb damage. They are the most versatile build, as i said before they are meant to be hunters, the best hunters.


They sure can tank, but do you know how hard killing a spawn with a 2h warrior is?


Lol, so true. Slow and no range skills.

Maybe Rogue/cleric if you want euro char.
Hmmm... Bower for chinese, im not sure.


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2H/cleric of course, when you look carefully all the warrior/cleric skills you realize they are meant to be hunters, they can tank better than any other class, protect and buff comrades (traders and other hunters), and they also can deal superb damage. They are the most versatile build, as i said before they are meant to be hunters, the best hunters.


They sure can tank, but do you know how hard killing a spawn with a 2h warrior is?


i know it takes time, but you are not supossed to be the only hunter in a huge trade, if you can tank the thieves while the other hunters kill the thieves you are doing the hardest part of the job.

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Maybe Rogue/cleric if you want euro char.
Hmmm... Bower for chinese, im not sure.


If you are talking about killing the spawns or the human thieves maybe rogue is the right build, but you wont do significant damage without XE/DD, making you very vulnerable without a support build or a tanker. A wrong move and you are dead in 3 seconds. I am considering the roles of every char in a trade run, and IMO, 2h/cleric is the perfect hunter.

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NobleHunter wrote:
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2H/cleric of course, when you look carefully all the warrior/cleric skills you realize they are meant to be hunters, they can tank better than any other class, protect and buff comrades (traders and other hunters), and they also can deal superb damage. They are the most versatile build, as i said before they are meant to be hunters, the best hunters.


They sure can tank, but do you know how hard killing a spawn with a 2h warrior is?


i know it takes time, but you are not supossed to be the only hunter in a huge trade, if you can tank the thieves while the other hunters kill the thieves you are doing the hardest part of the job.


Nonetheless, a chinese Pure INT char would do better..

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 Post subject: Re: Best Build For Hunter?
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Nonetheless, a chinese Pure INT char would do better..


Well looks like we have different opinions, i think warrior/cleric is the ultimate hunter build, you cant support a trader partner with a chinese int :\

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well this mainly depends on what you plan on doing.

for 1 star trades under lvl 40 having a higher lvl wiz is awesome since they take out the thief spawns in no time at all. however it can get dangerous so usually its wiz/bard so they run faster while inivisble. and thiefs wont know theres a hunter there.

as for a larger trade, im going to assume you'll have full parties here of traders and hunters. Its smart to have tanks and stuff, but once again wiz can shine. Their crystal invisible i believe makes the whole team invisible so theifs wont know whats happening when all of a sudden 5 + lvl 80 hunters pop up. As well rogues tag point is good for this, and with the long range of xbow can easily take out running or scouting opponents.

Basically any build can be good at hunting, just depends on what you have and who you have on your team


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The 2h/Cleric would fit alot better as a thief, the spawns would take too long time to kill for the char to be efficiant. As thief it's only a couple of hunters and traders, bless, skinn and zerk - good night

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 Post subject: Re: Best Build For Hunter?
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The 2h/Cleric would fit alot better as a thief, the spawns would take too long time to kill for the char to be efficiant. As thief it's only a couple of hunters and traders, bless, skinn and zerk - good night

nah.. thiefs need stealth to be perfect
2H/clerics are the best IMO.. dont tell me u kill slow! what do u wanna use for a hunter then ? a WIZARD!?
u sacrifice the fast killing rate for the staying power. trust me.. i tried hunting with a wizard b4. if u get swarmed by the NPC thieves and a player thief attacks u, ur down. srue NPC thieves are no match for a wizard hunter ( i used to take down 6 NPC thieves in the same time with "bless-> charged wind-> earth AOE ->ice aoe) but u will always need a warrior to tank players.
u'll finally realise killing npcs slowly isnt so bad afterall :)

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IMO if your going to be a hunter you need to be a str based char. Because Hunters are pretty much sitting ducks for another player thief to see and then kill. So I say you'd be a WAYYY better hunter if your a str char cause some thief wizard will just run up too you and nuke you before you know what hit you.
So the best hunter builds are. *in no order*
1. Glavie
2. Bow
3. Blader

I don't have enough exp with euro builds to really tell you which ones are best. But I do imagine it'd probably be a str char like a 2handed warrior, 1 handed warrior ect....


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For a multi-star trade the best hunters around are wizards. One AOE and there goes pretty much every thief attacking the transport you are trying to protect.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Build For Hunter?
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IMO if your going to be a hunter you need to be a str based char. Because Hunters are pretty much sitting ducks for another player thief to see and then kill. So I say you'd be a WAYYY better hunter if your a str char cause some thief wizard will just run up too you and nuke you before you know what hit you.
So the best hunter builds are. *in no order*
1. Glavie
2. Bow
3. Blader

I don't have enough exp with euro builds to really tell you which ones are best. But I do imagine it'd probably be a str char like a 2handed warrior, 1 handed warrior ect....

prolly a glavier does better as a hunter than a warrior cuz of those aoe glavie atacks..
i dont agree with ranking a bower as a good hunter really.. he's str, but not really a tank. a wizard or a rogue with good eq will still 1-2Hit the archer with ease. at least glaviers have the hp increase, and bladers have shields.
as for euros.. i guess a dual-rogue/cleric could do good.
maybe warrior/warlocks or warlock/clerics too.. not sure though

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 Post subject: Re: Best Build For Hunter?
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Nonetheless, a chinese Pure INT char would do better..


Well looks like we have different opinions, i think warrior/cleric is the ultimate hunter build, you cant support a trader partner with a chinese int :\


Funny.. I happen to have both builds.. both of which 80 and farmed. :D

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Nonetheless, a chinese Pure INT char would do better..


Well looks like we have different opinions, i think warrior/cleric is the ultimate hunter build, you cant support a trader partner with a chinese int :\


Funny.. I happen to have both builds.. both of which 80 and farmed. :D


So? Whats funny? My actual character was 2H warrior until lvl 69 before i deleveled the mastery, and btw if know about something is about trading, and i can tell a chinese int isnt that useful in a huge trade compared to a 2H/cleric, maybe a full int would be good for a solo 2* trade, but if we are talking about tanking hability, partner support, and spawn killing, the 2H/cleric is most useful than a chinese int.

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Spawn killing and 2H warrior? Nah.. don't include that in your little list. Also include that the warrior will rely on his skins and bless ALL the time, or to the other warrior in the party by giving screens to eachother.. trying to guess when the spawn will come. No Skins,bless,screens - dead warrior. I know that from experience.

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Spawn killing and 2H warrior? Nah.. don't include that in your little list. Also include that the warrior will rely on his skins and bless ALL the time, or to the other warrior in the party by giving screens to eachother.. trying to guess when the spawn will come. No Skins,bless,screens - dead warrior. I know that from experience.


Of course the warrior rely in his skins and bless, the time between each spawn is enough to give the warrior time to alternate between bless spell, skins and his PARTNERS bless spells and buffs, thats why i´ll keep saying the 2H/cleric is the best in huge trades (i repeat, i think the full int would be better in solo or full chinese pt) because he can give screens, tank, and quickly switch to cleric so he can heal himself and the rest of the party.

Full int chinese + rogue or wizard = the european character will easily die in a few spawns even if his sub is cleric, thieves spawn behind and the euro is fcked.

2H/cleric + rogue or wizard = warrior can give screens or switch to cleric to heal and give bless and buffs, and if a partner dies he can just res him and continue the trade fast, you will have a damage dealer with screens, what can be better than this?

im sure the int would be good in solo trade, and the warrior in that scenario would be fcked, but splashing nukes wont be that useful in a huge trade party when you can have a buffed damage dealer with screens.
(i wrote this with my best english, my grammar isnt perfect :oops: )

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I always liked full STR glaive as a hunter.

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Hybrid Bow in my opinion, it utilities the best of the chinese builds. AND I noticed lots of you are saying glavie < it was a spelling error until legend 2, its glaive.

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Pure INT S/S Nuker + Euro Wiz + Euro 2h Warrior/Cleric + Pure Str Glaive + Pure Str Bow. Throw in a bard if you want. But that is a good team. All that's necessary.

Wizard tries to stay invisible most of the time in case of real player thief.

Pure Str for tanking real player thief.

Euro 2h/Cleric to help out with buffs in case higher lvl real player pops up. But not necessary.

Pure INT. Takes care of npc thief + wiz. SO easy. This is where pure str fail as hunters. Can't kill fast enough. If you have a 5* close to your lvl... you won't be able to take them all out before the trade is dead.

Want a good build for Hunter? Pick one.

I'm a pure int, my friends are the pure str bow and glaive. They take out 5 npc thief while I take out the other 30. However, if a real player comes, I alert them and dash away. When the thief loses focus and attacks them, I dash back and nuke em. This is where snow shield + garms for speed helps.

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As a thief 2H/Cleric, I can say that our kill is too slow (using moving scroll may help)
When I get multistars trade (alone), it's not very easy to kill all hunter spawn...
Some hunters (often 3-4 wizzards :shock: ) attack your transport, so you go to kill them, but during this time, rogue KD you and they are so far...
As you take too long time, the 2nd spawn starts :banghead: ...and its come more and more difficult to manage them.
So I think it will be as difficult for hunter 2H/Cleric.
I don't say it's not possible , but little more hard( more interresting ? :roll: )
I think the easyest way is Wizzar/cleric : put bless spell when thief spawn, and one shot them easily.


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a good trade would be
3 traders 5*
5 hunters = 2 warriors
3 wizards

warrior buff the wiz and they are able to use life control or tourning life = spwn thief die fast and wiz dont die cuz they are buffed, vs real players thief, warriors go and tank with skins and give screens to wiz + wiz sub cleric bless, then they nuke and all cool^^

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