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 Post subject: nuker question
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:50 pm 
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which books from that shield skill should i get? i think the skill is called castle shield, cant remember :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: nuker question
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:01 pm 
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These are pretty much all the skills you will need in the cold mastery. Lightning is there too but I snagged this image from [SD]Rainigul's guide here: viewtopic.php?t=69675

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 Post subject: Re: nuker question
PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:09 pm 
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I think he was talking about the Bicheon Mastery.
Its called Shield Technique Series, the skills themselves are called Castle Shield, Mountain Shield, Ironwall Shield and Giant Shield(Books 1,2,3 and 4).
Castle Shield and Ironwall Shield increase your phy. defence power while Mountain Shield and Giant Shield increase your blocking ratio. If you're short on SP i would suggest only taking Castle and Ironwall(Books 1 and 3) since you already have a Passive that increases blocking ratio.

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 Post subject: Re: nuker question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:46 am 
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I think vindicator (?) said that in his guide that mountain shield is useless. It is, you already have a passive for it, focus on your castle shield

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 Post subject: Re: nuker question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:56 am 
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are you just starting a new char? or already have a good-leveled one?

If you are starting new, I suggest you forget about Chinese Int completely... unless you wanna be ABSOLUTELY owned in pvp...

not even the extra 2-3k HP from making hybrid (instead of int) will be able to save you from those Euro skills...

Suggestion: rogue/bard or wizard/cleric... or maybe even temporarily quit SRO :shock: (if you can't just bot to cap)

maybe 90/100 cap will make Chinese characters worth playing? maybe it won't... don't count on anything... I mean, if I were JM, i'd wanna encourage ppl to start new characters so that they spend more money on cash items while lvling and farming their new characters. The only way to do that is to convince ppl that their current char sucks (although it used to be good)

The lack of balance in SRO exists for a reason - marketing.


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 Post subject: Re: nuker question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:58 am 
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Sorry, but have you actually ever played a chinese up to a decent level?
I log in pretty often on my bro's pure INT s/s fully farmed lv 80 nuker to PvP, he had a +3, +4 and +5 protector set with good blues and a 80 Bicheon, 80 Cold, 80 Lightning and 60 Fire build. With Snow Shield and all the buffs on, a Wizard without Life Control can't 1 hit me, but i can, when he has Life Control its a whoever hits first thing though but its all down to good reflexes and if the Wiz can't 1 hit me he's screwed.

I do agree that Rogues are annoying though, i can see Dagger ones a mile away with the Stealth detect skill but Crossbow ones are a real pain. But other then that i don't have much trouble with Euros if i'm well concentrated.

I am not a euro hater, far from it, i quite enjoy playing my 1H Warrior but the fact is that euros have A LOT of trouble with chinese INTs because of pot delay.

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 Post subject: Re: nuker question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:15 am 
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MrSonic wrote:
Sorry, but have you actually ever played a chinese up to a decent level?
I log in pretty often on my bro's pure INT s/s fully farmed lv 80 nuker to PvP, he had a +3, +4 and +5 protector set with good blues and a 80 Bicheon, 80 Cold, 80 Lightning and 60 Fire build. With Snow Shield and all the buffs on, a Wizard without Life Control can't 1 hit me, but i can, when he has Life Control its a whoever hits first thing though but its all down to good reflexes and if the Wiz can't 1 hit me he's screwed.


My build is actually similar, 80 blade, 80 lit, 80 ice, 60 spear

I disagree with the "whoever hits the other guy first" part.

The wizard will ALWAYS hit you first, because he/she has invisibility. (and maybe "bless"? i.e. god-mode.... and its 45 seconds long!... try beat a wizard/cleric, and you'll be owned in 5 seconds without the slightest hope of winning.)

and Rogue... well... farmed rogues usually have both xbow skills and dagger skills... so I don't expect any farmed cap rogues 2 b approaching a nuker with daggers...lol...like, completely give up their range advantage? wuts one good reason for that?

and if you have EVER fought against a 2HS, you'll know that they are 5 times as annoying as Chinese Bladers' KD!!! (and they can do the rush skill, so you can't even run)

Of course, you can prove me wrong if you can make a vid of how your S/S nuker beats a full farmed wizard/cleric or 2HS or Rogue in a game of best 3 out of 5 (that means, if you have SoSun, they should have one too). And the Wizards or Rogues should be allowed to use invisible/stealth, cuz that's the way job/war work.

and no, I'm not a Euro hater, I just hate the way JM don't even think about game balance!


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