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 Post subject: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:55 pm 
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So I've been debating and looking at the various balances of a Warlock/Wiz vs a Warlock/Cleric.

Curious to see what some more experienced players think about one vs the other.

Strengths and Weaknesses. Any help is gladly appreciated. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:24 pm 
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if u wanna tank a little bit more, warlock clerics the way to go.

its nice to put ppl to sleep, switch to cleric and offering them.

u can do that with wiz too, warlock's sleep basically lets u kill anyone cuz they can't do anything about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:55 pm 
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I know that Warlock/Cleric seems to be the most popular combination and the only one I've seen guides on.

Obviously, Cleric sub gives Warlocks a fair bit more survivability.

Has anyone tried Warlock/Wiz and could tell me the benefits or flaws of this combo vs Warlock/Cleric. Or why you picked one over the other?

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:33 pm 
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I picked, Warlock/Wizard because it's fits me, my playing style...everyone thinks this build is just "put people to sleep" then switch and kill them..but that's all I put in my videos to make them look good lol, but you can kill so many ways with this build ..the range of killing is like no other and this with me only using the lv65 skills I havn't even got the 80 skills yet. But it's not for everyone, like I said it fits me.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
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Both are fun builds and have their strengths and weaknesses, its up to personal preferance. Insane damage or supreme tanking ability.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:09 am 
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i'm a warlock/wiz and Embodiment impired me to make one cause of his videos (i think their his =/) but yea i'm lvl 42 and doing great with it. and yea pvping is fun cause i usually try something new, kill a few ppl run back to safe zone, modify w/e and come back out and see if it works.

some combinations i use:

ppl higiher level than me
wizards or rouges- they can probably one hit kill u so the easiest way is to stun/sleep, lc if needed, nuke, kill.

warriors and most tankers- stun, debuffs/curse, vampire touch if needed, sleep, nuke

Chinese in general- stun, debuff, i like to use wheel bind to stop their pots, sleep nuke

i've only had baout 3 pvp sessions and these are my most common tactics. would like to try out more combinations in the future.

only bad ting about war/wiz is the sp u need. i'm not sure how much Embodiment needed but if u want the full warlock tree and the must have wizard skills (pretty much fire and ice nukes) its about 450k sp

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:00 pm 
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can holy spell or any cleric buffs stop sleeping? or other warlock attacks?

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
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can holy spell or any cleric buffs stop sleeping? or other warlock attacks?


Cleric Holy Spell Max Gives resist to lv8 curses, Warlock :love:Vampire Kiss, and Touchy Disease Maxes at lv9 as long as Disease is on the cleric all Curses act as lv9 so they can get put to sleep. And Holy Spell can't stop Dark Mentalist Line and :love:Wheel Bind...and everyone gets stun :).....Warlocks are just nasty.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
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lol i was pvping two warlocks vs my wiz/war and i beat both of them half the time. hard though cause wen u stun one warlock the other one wills tun you >< then ur just spamming vampire touch. manage to beat them if theys tun me sometimes and their my level.

gotta work on being faster at casting and switching =/

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:22 pm 
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i would go warlock/ cleric for better survivability and u would not need as much sp.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
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I have a friend who is a Hybrid Warlock no secondary and he kills fine. I strongly suggest Hybrid Warlock/Cleric because its Offering does more than a Pure Int's undebuffed and, you will probably never die even without Bless Spell, even when teamed since Deep Slumber and Wrath Daze are insane like that. Once you hit these higher levels you will also get the AoE debuffs so basicly Magical Ravage + Deep Slumber + Offering = 3 dead, maybe just 2 since you are hybrid.

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:25 am 
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war/wiz is aggressive build and meant to kill
war/cleric is more of a support class in job war/FW, and meant to be support (helping to debuff, stun/sleep, heal)

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 Post subject: Re: Warlock/Wiz vs Warlock/Cleric
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Embodiment wrote:
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can holy spell or any cleric buffs stop sleeping? or other warlock attacks?


Cleric Holy Spell Max Gives resist to lv8 curses, Warlock :love:Vampire Kiss, and Touchy Disease Maxes at lv9 as long as Disease is on the cleric all Curses act as lv9 so they can get put to sleep. And Holy Spell can't stop Dark Mentalist Line and :love:Wheel Bind...and everyone gets stun :).....Warlocks are just nasty.

it is really annoying :/ gotta use invisible :D

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