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Snickers
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Post subject: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:15 pm |
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I'm currently a full str fire/cold glaive, but I think chinese are better as hybrid. I don't know much about chinese chars so I want to hear some opinions. What build should I pick if I go hybrid and what kind of hybrid should I be ?
EDIT: I'm currently lvl 19 and I putted everything to str.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:29 pm |
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Glaive = pure str end of story. I don't get why people say go hyb with glaive. You will fail miserably if you are a hyb glaive at higher lvls.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:36 pm |
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DropOut wrote: Glaive = pure str end of story. I don't get why people say go hyb with glaive. You will fail miserably if you are a hyb glaive at higher lvls. I will switch to spear ^^.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:56 pm |
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DropOut wrote: Glaive = pure str end of story. I don't get why people say go hyb with glaive. You will fail miserably if you are a hyb glaive at higher lvls. erm not exactly since he is glaive/fire/cold he has the hp increase, mag increase, and phys def increase, along with many other usefull incentives. and since he is going hybrid (dont know by how much) he can use a higher snowsheild when needed. i have seen some hybrid glaives and just like any other build they won and lost matches against people around the same degree as them. a hyb glavie puts out steadier dmg along with crits.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:27 pm |
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I'm a lvl92 glaive, I know how strong it is. At first I was cold / fire and you can have the phy def buff and a bit more dmg but you will die in a couple of sec if you don't have enough hp. Glaive needs to get close to the enemy and then crit. More str = higher crits. Btw a glaive that uses high lvl snow is a fail. The heuksel skill just suck up all your mp. If you have enough mp to use your skills and use a high lvl snow then you better use spear...
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:30 am |
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Fimero wrote: DropOut wrote: Glaive = pure str end of story. I don't get why people say go hyb with glaive. You will fail miserably if you are a hyb glaive at higher lvls. erm not exactly since he is glaive/fire/cold he has the hp increase, mag increase, and phys def increase, along with many other usefull incentives. and since he is going hybrid (dont know by how much) he can use a higher snowsheild when needed. i have seen some hybrid glaives and just like any other build they won and lost matches against people around the same degree as them. a hyb glavie puts out steadier dmg along with crits. Mag increase from a fire/cold build? HOW MENS TELL ME... I would stay pure, hybrid is for the int.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:08 am |
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XMoshe wrote: Fimero wrote: DropOut wrote: Glaive = pure str end of story. I don't get why people say go hyb with glaive. You will fail miserably if you are a hyb glaive at higher lvls. erm not exactly since he is glaive/fire/cold he has the hp increase, mag increase, and phys def increase, along with many other usefull incentives. and since he is going hybrid (dont know by how much) he can use a higher snowsheild when needed. i have seen some hybrid glaives and just like any other build they won and lost matches against people around the same degree as them. a hyb glavie puts out steadier dmg along with crits. Mag increase from a fire/cold build? HOW MENS TELL ME... I would stay pure, hybrid is for the int. I think he means higher mag dmg if you go hyb 
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:19 am |
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XMoshe wrote: Fimero wrote: DropOut wrote: Glaive = pure str end of story. I don't get why people say go hyb with glaive. You will fail miserably if you are a hyb glaive at higher lvls. erm not exactly since he is glaive/fire/cold he has the hp increase, mag increase, and phys def increase, along with many other usefull incentives. and since he is going hybrid (dont know by how much) he can use a higher snowsheild when needed. i have seen some hybrid glaives and just like any other build they won and lost matches against people around the same degree as them. a hyb glavie puts out steadier dmg along with crits. Mag increase from a fire/cold build? HOW MENS TELL ME... I would stay pure, hybrid is for the int. yea sorry i ment higher mag def increase. lately i keep forgetting key words that make a big difference.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:53 am |
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Lol I see =p But he has fire for that..And he can go garm for even more mag def. There is no good reason to give up hp and crit damage for a little bit of higher base damage. I played a hybrid str glaive and the different isn't that big.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:39 pm |
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I quit that char... he really sucked.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:04 pm |
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I'd stay pure, play it safe, at least then you know your build won't suck.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:58 pm |
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Snickers wrote: I quit that char... he really sucked. at what lvl did it suck? hybrid fire cold glaives are good just like any other build. just as long as you know how to play it.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:27 am |
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Fimero wrote: Snickers wrote: I quit that char... he really sucked. at what lvl did it suck? hybrid fire cold glaives are good just like any other build. just as long as you know how to play it. Lvl 23.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:00 pm |
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Snickers wrote: Fimero wrote: Snickers wrote: I quit that char... he really sucked. at what lvl did it suck? hybrid fire cold glaives are good just like any other build. just as long as you know how to play it. Lvl 23. You can't say if a build sucks at that lvl..or the next 60 lvl's probs. You can only say it sucks when you get better skills, decent gear etc >.< At low lvl it's a 1hit KO everytime cuz 95% runs in npc gear.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:07 pm |
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XMoshe wrote: You can't say if a build sucks at that lvl..or the next 60 lvl's probs. You can only say it sucks when you get better skills, decent gear etc >.<
At low lvl it's a 1hit KO everytime cuz 95% runs in npc gear. I don't want to wait a year before knowing if a build sucks :| I just made a rogue/cleric. Owns at low and high lvls 
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:26 am |
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Snickers wrote: XMoshe wrote: You can't say if a build sucks at that lvl..or the next 60 lvl's probs. You can only say it sucks when you get better skills, decent gear etc >.<
At low lvl it's a 1hit KO everytime cuz 95% runs in npc gear. I don't want to wait a year before knowing if a build sucks :| I just made a rogue/cleric. Owns at low and high lvls  True, but you still can't say it sucks unless you get to play it in the 80's and higher ^^
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:05 am |
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Snickers wrote: XMoshe wrote: You can't say if a build sucks at that lvl..or the next 60 lvl's probs. You can only say it sucks when you get better skills, decent gear etc >.<
At low lvl it's a 1hit KO everytime cuz 95% runs in npc gear. I don't want to wait a year before knowing if a build sucks :| I just made a rogue/cleric. Owns at low and high lvls  rogue cleric are good yes. but 1v1 pvp you have to know what you are doing. at pve they are rape though good luck getting in parties though
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:56 pm |
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Fimero wrote: Snickers wrote: XMoshe wrote: You can't say if a build sucks at that lvl..or the next 60 lvl's probs. You can only say it sucks when you get better skills, decent gear etc >.<
At low lvl it's a 1hit KO everytime cuz 95% runs in npc gear. I don't want to wait a year before knowing if a build sucks :| I just made a rogue/cleric. Owns at low and high lvls  rogue cleric are good yes. but 1v1 pvp you have to know what you are doing. at pve they are rape though good luck getting in parties though I'm playing cSRO and I don't have to worry about parties, since there are none :|
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:47 pm |
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well in that case a rogue cleric is a very good choice
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:49 am |
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Hybrid glaive=fail.Glaive needs all the hp and def that he can get and glaive's are MEANT to crit because heuksal skills have higher physical atk power than bich/pacheon.Make full str 100heuk/fire/cold.With this you will be a cape hero.If you make hybrid, you will see in higher lvls that you will die fast from the most dangerous pvp builds, like W/C and rogues.And glaivers with devil spirit S can get a stunning 49550 hp with fb 100% gear and prem+,with vigors you will rarely die if you know how to play/equip shield at dangerous situations.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:41 pm |
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very intelligent wrote: Hybrid glaive=fail.Glaive needs all the hp and def that he can get and glaive's are MEANT to crit because heuksal skills have higher physical atk power than bich/pacheon.Make full str 100heuk/fire/cold.With this you will be a cape hero.If you make hybrid, you will see in higher lvls that you will die fast from the most dangerous pvp builds, like W/C and rogues.And glaivers with devil spirit S can get a stunning 49550 hp with fb 100% gear and prem+,with vigors you will rarely die if you know how to play/equip shield at dangerous situations. Learn to read. I first said I would switch to spear, then I said I decided to make a rogue/cleric.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:59 pm |
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Snickers wrote: very intelligent wrote: Hybrid glaive=fail.Glaive needs all the hp and def that he can get and glaive's are MEANT to crit because heuksal skills have higher physical atk power than bich/pacheon.Make full str 100heuk/fire/cold.With this you will be a cape hero.If you make hybrid, you will see in higher lvls that you will die fast from the most dangerous pvp builds, like W/C and rogues.And glaivers with devil spirit S can get a stunning 49550 hp with fb 100% gear and prem+,with vigors you will rarely die if you know how to play/equip shield at dangerous situations. Learn to read. I first said I would switch to spear, then I said I decided to make a rogue/cleric. Wow, he was addressing your original post. Just because you've settled on a build doesn't mean others cant learn from your post and others addressing it. That's the whole point of forums, for everyone to learn... Don't be a choch dude.
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Post subject: Re: Hybrid or Pure Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:08 pm |
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_c0nflict_ wrote: Snickers wrote: very intelligent wrote: Hybrid glaive=fail.Glaive needs all the hp and def that he can get and glaive's are MEANT to crit because heuksal skills have higher physical atk power than bich/pacheon.Make full str 100heuk/fire/cold.With this you will be a cape hero.If you make hybrid, you will see in higher lvls that you will die fast from the most dangerous pvp builds, like W/C and rogues.And glaivers with devil spirit S can get a stunning 49550 hp with fb 100% gear and prem+,with vigors you will rarely die if you know how to play/equip shield at dangerous situations. Learn to read. I first said I would switch to spear, then I said I decided to make a rogue/cleric. Wow, he was addressing your original post. Just because you've settled on a build doesn't mean others cant learn from your post and others addressing it. That's the whole point of forums, for everyone to learn... Don't be a choch dude. +1 others might still not be certain and use this post as a source
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