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Ok What of these european classes would be good at PvP, PvE and Job? Pros and Cons pls.
Also: if you choose Warrior or Rouge please tell me what weapon should I use. Thanks

All are good at the 3 categories...though, the ints'll be better at PvE (soloing), eventhough euros are meant for group based play...

Warrior/Cleric ~ One of the top PvP builds...if you take this, get 1hs (at least the passives and shield trash / crush for the Dull effect, 2hs (all skills), and DA (just double / sudden twist for the stun / bleed)

Rogue/Cleric ~ Better than rogue / bard in PvP, but not as good as Rogue / bard in solo PvE...if you go rogue ...get both dagger and xbow.

Wizard/Cleric ~ Kinda decent at PvP ('ll be fast pvp if solo)...does fine in PvE, and jobbing as well.

Warlock/Cleric ~ Decent at all, but PvP can be kinda hard if you're fighting someone with a cleric sub.

Bard/Cleric ~ Pure support build...as for PvP ...don't really see it as being that good (solo fights)...group fights, it's good.

Warrior/Bard ~ ...only real use I see for the sub is the speed.

Rogue/Bard ~ Good at PvE...other than that, it has its drawbacks at PvP...though can be alright at jobbing.

Wizard/Bard ~ Alright at PvE, though giants can kill you if you're not careful. Pvp ...not really good for solo pvp. Group fights, yea, it does fine.

Warlock/Bard ~ Good at PvE...somewhat alright at PvP (look at lock / cleric).

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Just notice that euro builds with multiple weapons and/or cleric (sub)class and/or warlock (sub)class in general will require a lot of farming, which should be done as a powerfarm (by a higher friend at ongs), as euros have a harder time farming than chinese because of the equipment's mastery level requirement.

There is a distinct lack of Warrior/Warlock in this thread.

As well as possibly wizard/warlock, rogue/warlock and bard/warlock. It seems like the OP doesn't want one of these builds. Let's wait and see what's his reply for this.

Warrior/cleric, it is a very good all around build for PVE and PVP. I would take 1h for pve and 2h for pvp as your weapons, but if you want to be adventurous and take DA instead of 2h for pvp that will also work just fine. Or if you really want to own some people take all 3 weapons.

Rogue/cleric. Good pvper and pve'er with xbow and daggers. Tho it's pretty hard to pick cos they're all pretty good, i only chose rogue/cleric cos the last poster chose warrior/cleric, may as well go down the list.

Ok Warrior/Cleric is now at the first place and Warlock/Cleric on the second place so now tell me their + and -

Example: Cleric/Bard

+ Best buffer/Healer
+ Ress

- Not very good soloing
- Reguires lots of SP

Bard/Cleric for PvE(Parties) and Jobbing as well as fw. Bard are highly capable of "take'ing down enemies", and at the same time be able to play as a cleric and bard so FULLY support your party. If infact you think sp is an issue, just stick with full bard for a while, then gradually farm for cleric around higher levels like, pegs and beyond+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiyilcCsnz4 <-- battle bard, although he may not be Bard/Cleric, he is a Bard/Wiz, its just to show an example of what a bard can do in battle.

Pros of a Bard/Cleric:
Full Support, your basically the ultimate buffer
You'll be able to party VERY easily
you'll level up somewhat easily due to the fact that your accepted into parties faster
Relatively Cheap compared to other builds
Able to Ks Wizards AND Chinese nukers{besides lion shout]
Fast Cd's on battle skills
Jobbing/Fortwar/Party, able to do all of them very well

Cons:
Somewhat heavy on sp, but not as much as others [i.e. Anything with warlock]
unable to solo efficiently
Die's easily to Physical Attacks
Gets boring being a slave

Well Thanks really much about that Bard/Cleric guide (and video also), I see it might be good but normaly where I always fail is when I have low Phy.def and Sorry but I forgot to ask what armor should I use, so if someone knows tell me pls?

And Now pls tell me about Warrior/Cleric and Warlock/Cleric Tahnks

Warrior / cleric, most independent euro build in jobs, while also perfectly able to contribute alot to a full europe party. One of the best 1on1 builds, now they buffed holy spell vs panic its not even fun fighting warrior/warlock.


rogue / cleric, also verry independent compared to wizards etc. This would be my second choise.

Wizard/cleric, mwah weak in 1on1. Is to dependent on warriors and such for my taste. I love to run around and kill in jobs, you cant do that as a wizard you always have to stick to the party. Plus bowers are gonna kb the crap out of you. They are totally awesome with buffs though.

Warlock/cleric. Great vs most non cleric sub builds. I hoped they would nerf HS a bit so you can use more spells as a warlock in job. But turns out now even my favourite debuff ( panic) doesnt go through it anymore :S. Which IMO was always one of the best / usefull spells in a warlocks arsenal.

That helped quite much and now I would like to hear your expiriences being Warlock/Cleric or warrior/Cleric.

In 1on1 warlock just really destroys any non holy spell users. But they are weak vs holy spell users, yes I guess many warlocks will say a skilled warlock can take down a cleric sub european. But evenly skilled a cleric sub should always have an advantage, especially with panic not working vs holy spell anymore.

Tank/cleric pretty much has an good chance to win vs any build.

In group pvp, I wouldnt like warlock/cleric simply cause 90% of your spells aint working vs holy spell. The thing you might not like about tank/cleric is that they are to good at buffig. So sometimes you end up only buffing ints + using a shield trash here and there which can get boring. Thats why I personally vary it with soloing in job wars or I play in partys as a battle tank.

Its gettin very hard to choose between Warlock/Cleric and Warrior/Cleric so im thinking of choosing Warrior/Cleric because it Doesn't reguire so much SP as Warlock, It has less skills so its probably easier for me to play with it and it also has good defenses but what kind of weapon should i wear? Two-Handed Sword, One-Handed Sword or Dual axes?

It's best to get all three. But you can get by with 1 or 2 depending on how versatile you want to be.

Get 1h for partying. It's the best for tanking cause of the shield. Kinda slow for soloing but manageable. 1h is the best tanking warrior weapon.

Get 2h for pvping/soloing. It's skills are pretty dang strong. It's pretty good for soloing because of this. 2h is the hardest hitting warrior weapon.

Get Dual axes for pvping. Dual axes are really optional. They help a lot with their fast moves in in pvp. But their kinda in between the 1h and 2h. Not a great tanker or a great damage dealer. But helpful none the less.

+1

Its all about what you want. I got an Warrior/Cleric on Xian server. I used ONLY 2-handed sword, mostly soloing or grinding with s/s friend. It was fine, i could tank pretty well in a 2/8 party.

A 2-handed warrior is pretty good for pvp too because, as said in the post above. They hit pretty high


Good luck choosing

Key Phrase, 2/8 party. Trust me if you are going to party with a warrior effectively, then you need 1H.

I have been thinking about this and Warrior/Cleric doesn't need so much SP as Warlock/Cleric does, also 1H Warrior could be what I like, it doesnt die easily. But on Cleric now: What skills should I take from Cleric and what buffs stay after weapon switch?

Also reguired Sp for Cleric skills could be usefull.

Thanks to all Answers!

Just follow the 1h/cleric half of this guide
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=106848&p=1454491#p1454491