70:70 Bow Build

pipigrande · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 688 **Location:** Canada

I was reading Jakekiss 70:70 post and I could not really figure out WHY 70:70 bow and not something around 8x:6x or 8x:5x?

Anyone did the math or know why 70:70?

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

Decent hp and good damage on your regular attacks.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

its almost a 1:2 int build for 70% phys. - 70% mag

a real killer along with 1:1 or any of the str hybs.

I am farming for one right now

LastProfet · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 259 **Location:**

why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

LastProfet wrote:

why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..

why less sp?
i'd take all the attacks except autumn wind and the attack hawks for any bow build
but i dont see any oppurtunity to skip anymore skills or 70:70

LastProfet · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 259 **Location:**

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

LastProfet wrote:

why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..

why less sp?
i'd take all the attacks except autumn wind and the attack hawks for any bow build
but i dont see any oppurtunity to skip anymore skills or 70:70

i wanted to say that it dnt need so many sp for lv 90 ff..well,100 now...for 90 its like 550-600k sp for being full farmed with ALL pach skills,fire90,ice 60 light 60..u better think twice before talking...

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

LastProfet wrote:

[u better think twice before talking...

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

LastProfet wrote:

Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:

LastProfet wrote:

why 70:70
-oh...it haves enough hp for survive pt mobs,giants...
-bigger dmg than a full str
-u can add snowshield..u have enough mp..
-and u dnt need so many sp for bow..

why less sp?
i'd take all the attacks except autumn wind and the attack hawks for any bow build
but i dont see any oppurtunity to skip anymore skills or 70:70

i wanted to say that it dnt need so many sp for lv 90 ff..well,100 now...for 90 its like 550-600k sp for being full farmed with ALL pach skills,fire90,ice 60 light 60..u better think twice before talking...

i said BOW
even a str build can live without 3 skills to 100
such as 100 bow/fire 80 light 20 cold

get it?

raphaell666 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:53 pm

pipigrande wrote:

I was reading Jakekiss 70:70 post and I could not really figure out WHY 70:70 bow and not something around 8x:6x or 8x:5x?

Anyone did the math or know why 70:70?

They prefer 70:70 because of it's high average non-crit damage, while still dealing good critical attacks and having a good survivability. Heavy STR builds have 'strong' crits but weak normal average attacks (non-crit) and heavy INT builds have 'weak' crits and high normal non-crit damage, so 70:70 is somewhat in middle of that. Bowers with higher physical balance would have a higher survivability and 'stronger' crits, but lower average damage, while bowers with higher magical balance would have a lower survivability and 'weaker' crits, but with higher average damage. You can freely make your choice, neither one of these is "the best" or whatever. It simply is a matter of taste.

pipigrande · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 688 **Location:** Canada

Thanks for the replies but no one really gave me the answer I was looking for (mathwise).

As for now, I'm going 8x:6x balance. I believe that would be better.

raphaell666 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 15, 2009 11:09 pm

pipigrande wrote:

Thanks for the replies but no one really gave me the answer I was looking for (mathwise).

As for now, I'm going 8x:6x balance. I believe that would be better.

I'm afraid (and pretty sure) there's no math at all behind it. 70:70 (or 69:70) is simply the closest to equalized balances you can get, and that's it.

LastProfet · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 259 **Location:**

Quote:

i said BOW
even a str build can live without 3 skills to 100
such as 100 bow/fire 80 light 20 cold

get it?

...forget it

Blinxx · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 463 **Location:**

pipigrande wrote:

I was reading Jakekiss 70:70 post and I could not really figure out WHY 70:70 bow and not something around 8x:6x or 8x:5x?

Anyone did the math or know why 70:70?

raphaell666 wrote:

They prefer 70:70 because of it's high average non-crit damage, while still dealing good critical attacks and having a good survivability. Heavy STR builds have 'strong' crits but weak normal average attacks (non-crit) and heavy INT builds have 'weak' crits and high normal non-crit damage, so 70:70 is somewhat in middle of that. Bowers with higher physical balance would have a higher survivability and 'stronger' crits, but lower average damage, while bowers with higher magical balance would have a lower survivability and 'weaker' crits, but with higher average damage. You can freely make your choice, neither one of these is "the best" or whatever. It simply is a matter of taste.

doesn't that practically answer the question?
depends on what math calculation you talking about, then figure it out by paphaell666's answer...

raphaell666 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:22 pm

Blinxx wrote:

raphaell666's

Fixed.

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