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I am making Pure Int Bard Only with no subs.. I was wondering if i can zero gap and be fully farmed at 90.. well now 100.. what do you suggest.. please only people that are bard and have experience.. i was thinking maybe 1 gapping all the way to 100.. I dont want a sub.. I just want bard only..

Just checked nivlam, if you get every single bard skill you'd have to 5 gap it all the way to be FF at 100.

i love you and thank you

i wonder how long that will take me to get to 100 if i 5 gap

But that's only if you get every single bard skill maxed to 100. I'm sure you won't need all of them. By the way, it's around 1 mil sp for all bard skills.

967,825 sp to be exact.. which is entirely freaking impossible.. I wonder how long that will take me at ongs without a sp ticket.. hmmm

Luckily ur just going pure bard, a lot of builds are needing like 700k to go from lvl90FF to lvl100FF.

Leave out some of the bard skills are tht'll cut a bit of sp. Then re-calculate how much sp u need and use nivlam SP gap thing.

I am making a pure bard too =), but might sub wizard when party gets boring or need to solo

For just the useful skills, it's only 692,004 sp.

Skills to max:

Vibration
Echo
Music Life
Prism

Horror Chord
Booming Chord
Weird Chord
Booming Wave

Moving March
Guard Tambour
Mana Tambour
Hit March
Swing March
Clout March

Patter Clamor

Tuning Noise
Mana Cycle
Noise
Tuning Sound
Mana Orbit

Tripping
Screen Dance

Dance of Valor
Dance of Magic
Dance of Fight
Dance of Wizardry.

Or you could go the 100% party route with bare-bones skills if you are feeling extremely tight-assed. It's not very feasible but hey, if you can find a party 24/7 then go for it.

Needs 425k SP at level 100 and a 1 gap all the way (433k sp) xD

[Bard's Dream]
Echo
Music Life
Prism

Skip [Battle Chord]

[Music Pleasure]
Moving March
Guard Tambour
Mana Tambour
Hit March
Swing March
Clout March

Skip [Melody]

[Sound]
Mana Cycle
Noise
Mana Orbit

[Beautiful Life]
Tripping
Screen Dance

[Dancing Concert]
Dancing Of Valor
Dancing Of Magic
Dancing Of Fight
Dancing Of Wizardry

Why bother with Vibration if you aren't taking any attacks?

Get the Bard attacks. Their worth the sp.

Good point there. That takes the total down to 425k sp o_o Which can be farmed with 1 gap from 1 - 100. Thanks

he had a good point lol .. im gonna be ff at 90 for sure at bard and cleric . besides guys there are no new skills for bard and cleric [even though this topic is for bards only XD] well , i have to max everything up .. and it's gonna take a while + time and knowledge too >.< !
for 100 which seems a waste for me except for the extra lvls on the old skills .. it's not gonna take much sp . well .. maybe like couple millions of sp , but i can farm xD! besides , tickets are good .

I am sorry but why would you not take a subclass? Thats like saying I am gonna be a blader with no imbue...

not really, euros can survive without any subs, actually quite well.

most people prefer subs though, since they are helpful in pvp

That's a pretty poor comparison I must say. A bard with no subclass can do very well at pretty much everything (though it has it's specialties and cons like any other build) as a warrior can do pretty well by itself, and the same happens for every other european class. In a party, your sub matters way less than when soloing. And euros are somewhat meant for partying. Don't get me wrong, subclasses do help, and a lot, but they are not obligatory at all. A bard has good speed, good damage, and it is very helpful in a party. Therefore it's good at both soloing and partying. It's also very good at group pvping, but it's not so good at 1vs1 pvping - every european build doesn't really need a subclass, and they'd still do pretty good, they'd have their pros and cons, and a subclass would just maybe help lessening it's cons and/or improving it's pros. Some people prefer not to take a subclass because they cannot afford/don't want 'heavy' farming, and they are not doing any mistake at all.