1h/2h/warlock VS. Light/Blade/Force

MooMooMoo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:13 am

Hey guys, Im planning to come back and I want to come back with a Str character, and this is there I need your advice/opinion/etc. Yes Yes I know I shouldnt come back but now I have some spare time and I want to try something new. Now lets get to the point.

If I decide to make a euro 1h/2h/warlock str, what are some of the skills I would need for PvE, Pvp, Fortress.

For the Blade/Force/Light I know what skill to get lol.

Thanks

bloody · **Posted:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:15 am

90blade/90fire/90light sucks change lighting for fire =)

Polemique · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 56 **Location:** Germany

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I have some spare time and I want to try something new.

good morning, well I would say you obviously NEED fire, irrespective of the fact that you have force.

But if you want to try something new, then think about my idea. I was on the same point as you and I decided for a chinese char (because of the great new skills of the upcoming lvl 100 cap)
Annnnd I decided to build a Heuksal / Pacheon / Fire STR Character... why?
Just simple: nobody has got it but the important point is, it is great - look, glavie has a huge DMG output but has problems with tanking, and bow is a little bit too week because the bombskill is maxed within your mastery lvl 85 allready.
But what is the point, if I have glavie why the hell do I need Bow?
-> Bow has got one HUGE advantage... the combos, they will you at least help you at cap 100. You will be the ultra tank - but how to combine the great DMG from glavie and the huge knockback advantage?
-> It is all about weapon switching. For example: do Emperor, Windless, Ghostspear - you delt a lot of DMG, now you switch to bow, do combo another strong bow attack (strongbow, anti Devil bow), back to glavie and keep dealing DMG.
Another good point is, if your fast in weapon switching you are able to kick out strong attacks from your counterparts, such as dare devil, prick, strong bow, and nukes... just with the bow combo.
Furthermore Emperor followed by a strong bow (huge DMG both - up to 350%) has got a high stun possibility and you dont have to trust in the soul spear soul (second and WEAK glavie stun).
The probably highest DPS, optional with good crits would be: Emperor, strong bow, combo(bow), anti devil, windless, ghostspear... and the knockback combo whenever you like.
But be aware that this build will become much stronger with the lvl 100 cap. On lvl 91 the new bomb is impressive, the SECOND knockback combo will at least secure your life as glavie and the new strong bow at lvl 98 is the best at all...
Well, you see it all depends on how good you are with weapon switching, but warrior can´t kill you, if you play clever and notice: warriors are the hardest enemys for chinese STR even as a blader... but combos will save your a*s!
another little thing: as a glavier your DMG is good enough allready, so think about what you could take beside fire... Light? Ice? Light gives you a little bit more DMG and the ability to flee, Ice will help you to tank more - and tanking is the little lack of glavies.
BUT if you are all are interessted in new builds then TRY this one because bow dont just help you to reduce DMG, it will help you to prevent every dangerous attack, and if your good in weaponswitching and you have got a little sro skill, than you can fight regulary as a glavie with HUGE Dmg and help yourself out with bow.
Glavie with a litte attackrating is nice too (think about it, its arround 65 more attack rating) and a chinese with the heuksal HP boost is good anyway... especially as bow in cap 100... we will see, I defenetly make this build, just want to give you a hint about a new sro Idea, a unique one. --- unique? ahh with bow you will be great there too... so do you in jobwar. And whats about movingspeed??? :S whether I just buy the 100% speed drugs while jobing or for pvp and leveling I take the 50% or I fuse the saphire tablets, or I use speed scrolls (just collect them on each event...

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and trust me with mooving speed 100% you are just great... and what are this costs on cap 90)??? just stall one dropped Item and you can buy a massive amount of them.
AAAAANNNNNNDD, dont forget the firewall you can use it against any dagger/crossbow because you have got a ranged weapon too. furthermore against chinese bladers, forcers while starting PvP and against warriors - dont forget wizzards, if they nuke you, you should just knock back them, cast the fire wall to absorb the next nuke or the knock back, and do strongbow... its an GREAT ADVANTAGE against them, they wont bother you anymore!!!

what are you thinking about it??
I would like to hear your opinion, tipps, questions...
All the best
Polemique

MooMooMoo · **Posted:** Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:49 pm

Ok thanks guys lol, I was thinking of making a Euro because they are so popular these days and I wanted to try them out

I got a few Chinese character already made and Im getting kinda tired of it so I wanted to try something new. But force bladers looks fun to play with and they tank alot but so do the 1h/2h euros

Polemique · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 56 **Location:** Germany

great for what do i write it

:D

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

MooMooMoo wrote:

Ok thanks guys lol, I was thinking of making a Euro because they are so popular these days and I wanted to try them out

I got a few Chinese character already made and Im getting kinda tired of it so I wanted to try something new. But force bladers looks fun to play with and they tank alot but so do the 1h/2h euros

1h/2h/warlocks are an ungodly amount of SP. They are also slow.

raphaell666 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:25 am

Shadowfox542 wrote:

1h/2h/warlocks are an ungodly amount of SP. They are also slow.

Exactly the same applies to the blade/force/fire build.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

Yes, blade/fire/force has same problem.

However, Light/Blade/Force (read the thread title) does not.

raphaell666 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:05 pm

Shadowfox542 wrote:

Yes, blade/fire/force has same problem.

However, Light/Blade/Force (read the thread title) does not.

However, it's certain that Light/Blade/Force sucks as a pure STR using blade. It'd be a total waste to go with a build like that (lacks mag def, lacks phy attack % buff, lacks phy attack % passive, lacks fire wall). I think that bloody already said that (he was the first one to post here if you've actually read it) even though he made a mistake, I believe, when writing his reply:

bloody wrote:

90blade/90force/90light sucks change lighting for fire =)

Fixed.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

raphaell666 wrote:

Shadowfox542 wrote:

Yes, blade/fire/force has same problem.

However, Light/Blade/Force (read the thread title) does not.

However, it's certain that Light/Blade/Force sucks as a pure STR using blade. It'd be a total waste to go with a build like that (lacks mag def, lacks phy attack % buff, lacks phy attack % passive, lacks fire wall). I think that bloody already said that (he was the first one to post here if you've actually read it) even though he made a mistake, I believe, when writing his reply:

bloody wrote:

90blade/90force/90light sucks change lighting for fire =)

Fixed.

Yes, but that wasn't the OP's question. He was asking between 1h/2h/warlock and light/blade/force. I could suggest he chooses wizard. Does not mean that it pertains to the topic. The original question with the original builds does not lack speed, however I agree that it is not as good as fire. That does not matter though, that was not the question.

raphaell666 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:17 pm

Shadowfox542 wrote:

Yes, but that wasn't the OP's question. He was asking between 1h/2h/warlock and light/blade/force. I could suggest he chooses wizard. Does not mean that it pertains to the topic. The original question with the original builds does not lack speed, however I agree that it is not as good as fire. That does not matter though, that was not the question.

Wizard would really be completely offtopic, we were correcting the build he was obviously (at least in my judgment) incorrectly thinking about. That's all. We/I were/was not offtopic at all afaik. I don't know why you are so defensive, it's not like I'm flaming you or something. He made a question and we are helping him, even if going slightly of his question as it is. He undeniably asked between a pure str force build and a warrior/warlock, and we were correcting his wrong idea (imo) about the force build. I don't see how that's supposed to be offtopic.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

You could also say the same that wizard is "correcting" his idea. I know your not flaming me, just surprised to see someone actually disagree without flaming, which may be why I seem defensive. I guess it just comes down to if the OP considered Fire instead of Light first. I assumed he had, and was torn between fire or light, but if he was unaware that fire offered more advantages than light then yes, I would imagine that suggesting fire would be helpful.

I would suggest (Fire or light)/Blade/Force because they are less effected by Holy Spell.

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