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Best Sub for Rogue?
Cleric 50%  50%  [ 9 ]
Bard 50%  50%  [ 9 ]
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 Post subject: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:05 am 
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I can't decide at all.....Some of my guild mates told me i wont have enough MP to be cleric sub. So i guess i wanna ask, which sub is better Bard for speed or Cleric for healing.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:35 am 
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If a warrior can sub cleric, a rogue sure as hell can, rogues take less mp per skill then warriors anyway, problem is that rogue weps dont really work well with cleric weps, swapping from xbow has a 50% hp punishment for example, and a warrior can easily swap from 1h-cleric rod, i'm always in favour of bard, but that is just my opinion.
You should add a poll to this btw. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:41 am 
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Yes yes bard does seem the way to go. But still thinking, added poll like you said.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:44 am 
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depends on you,

if you care mainly about the sp cost, lvling speed..go with bard

if you want to be a stronger pvper...go with cleric

i chose cleric btw mainly because i love pvping and bless spell + recovery division and healing cycle is awesome.

another thing you have to consider is that in 8 man parties (if you pt a lot), a rogue/cleric is useless..maybe luring but no. in 8 man pties, a rogue/bard tends to be better as a bard.

you could try both builds ..lvl them up to lvl 30ish and decide :P

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:46 pm 
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Cleric ... I cannot imagine anything without Healing Cycle, Recovery Division and Holy Spell.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:02 pm 
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I see, How much better is cleric at pvp? Is it like a huge difference from having bard in pvp?

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:23 pm 
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Nellek wrote:
I see, How much better is cleric at pvp? Is it like a huge difference from having bard in pvp?


Yes. Insanely huge.

If something that will kill me comes along, I switch to shield and cleric rod. Buff myself with phy/mag buffs, and use healing cycle/orbit. I can easily easily tank a sun glaiver....I almost never use bless because I almost never need it.

Rogue Cleric is way way way better for PvP.
Rogue Bard is good for PvE, Noise/speed help, though if your good you should be able to kill them before they reach you anyway, as well as not have to move much due to range.


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:46 pm 
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Rogue/cleric is a godly build.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 8:52 pm 
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Yeah don't go rogue/bard it sucks a higher lvls. Sure you can kill one guy with daggers prick but then your screwed if another char starts attacking you. I have a lvl 50 rogue/bard FF for 50 dagger and xbow skills but it's not all that great tbh.


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
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Hmm this is sure maken me think alot lol, anyone other there that thinks bard would be better?

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:37 pm 
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I pvp a rogue/cleric and a rogue/bard. I struggled against the the rogue/cleric because of bless and recovery division, but the rogue/bard was easier to defeat. I vote cleric as best choice for rogue.


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue/Bard or Rogue/Cleric
PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 5:39 am 
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Bard is quite useless in PvP . They can only do Speed + Noise ( useless lol ) . However, they are very very very useful in PvE . Use CrossbowExtreme + Noise , you one-hit kill any General at your level with good weapon => Faster lvl up

Cleric is good in PvP . You can heal yourself and use Bless / Recovery Division

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