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 Post subject: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:30 pm 
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After gettin my Warrior a lil higher im gonna make a new acount what build shoul it be wizard or warlock with what sub?

Please no flaming

Oh and i already used search couldnt find anything

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:32 pm 
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My friends said warlock is more fun than a wizard, but i doubt it. There is no better build than wizard/bard to me.

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:15 pm 
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My friends said warlock is more fun than a wizard, but i doubt it. There is no better build than wizard/bard to me.


Except from a Wizard/Cleric

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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Puma60 wrote:
GimmeMo wrote:
My friends said warlock is more fun than a wizard, but i doubt it. There is no better build than wizard/bard to me.


Except from a Wizard/Cleric

Offcourse.

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:22 pm 
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Puma60 wrote:
GimmeMo wrote:
My friends said warlock is more fun than a wizard, but i doubt it. There is no better build than wizard/bard to me.


Except from a Wizard/Cleric

I love my noise and moving march. (dont tell me to go cleric and buy speed pots...)
Giants? No problem, I can kill them easily.

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:35 pm 
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so wiz? i heard warlock was good 2 can u guyz post pros and cons plz

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:24 pm 
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so wiz? i heard warlock was good 2 can u guyz post pros and cons plz

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Wiz cleric is undeniably better than wiz bard for PvP.

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Wizards:
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Insane damage
Can turn invis
Best for Power leveling people
One of the best unique killing builds

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Low HP and Low Defense means you'll die alot, resulting in "im lv40 and I killed you lv60 delete char noop."

Common build, you wouldn't be unique.

Wiz/bard fails hard in 1v1, but wiz/cleric is a ton of SP



Warlocks:
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Shield gives you more defense
you have a skill that heals you while damaging the enemy
Plenty of skills, won't get bored
unique

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Heavyily dependent on party play
useless if the enemy has Holy Spell/word
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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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Shadowfox542 wrote:
saad2919 wrote:
so wiz? i heard warlock was good 2 can u guyz post pros and cons plz

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Wiz cleric is undeniably better than wiz bard for PvP.

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Wizards:
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Insane damage
Can turn invis
Best for Power leveling people
One of the best unique killing builds

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Low HP and Low Defense means you'll die alot, resulting in "im lv40 and I killed you lv60 delete char noop."

Common build, you wouldn't be unique.

Wiz/bard fails hard in 1v1, but wiz/cleric is a ton of SP



Warlocks:
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Shield gives you more defense
you have a skill that heals you while damaging the enemy
Plenty of skills, won't get bored
unique

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Heavily dependent on party play
[Not so useful] if the enemy has Holy Spell/word
Tons and tons of SP


I agree with everything you said except for the bolded parts. In my opinion, I think Wizards are probably the most party-reliant build in the whole game because they can hardly take a hit. Warlocks, like rogues, can pretty much fly solo.

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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Warlock's are good soloer's too... They can train on mobs higher than them and their debuffs, stun, trap+sleep, etc. makes it so they don't even need Cleric to solo, or even PvP. IMO Wizards rely a lot more on parties and their secondaries to be effective. The only problem with Warlocks, IMO, is the SP so if you get farmed you are golden.

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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lol wizards sucks period unless u have sosun staff n good gear

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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I prefer Warlock/Cleric
reflect is a cool skill to annoy high lvl who kill you everytime on pvp :p

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:46 pm 
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wetgwap wrote:
lol wizards sucks period unless u have sosun staff n good gear

Wizards suck cuz they can 1hit you even with a npc staff? >.<

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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go warlock...its funnier than 1hiting everyone:P


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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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what about wizard/warlock? :D

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:30 pm 
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Thanx for input every1, im gonna go with warlock, soloing and haveing a build that isnt used much appeal to me :D , maybe warlock rods will be cheap :P

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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well i made a warlock and it was pretty boring to lvl with it takes like 4-5 hits to kills something and it doesnt have an area affect...

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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willieb3 wrote:
well i made a warlock and it was pretty boring to lvl with it takes like 4-5 hits to kills something and it doesnt have an area affect...

warlocks dont get aoe skills untill 40+ and it does not take 4-5 hits to kill unless ur like lvl 20 and under

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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Warlock is extremly fun, even as a sub class, I have never played a wizard, they do not appeal to me, but I can say that warlocks are alot of fun. :)

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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whorelock wrote:
willieb3 wrote:
well i made a warlock and it was pretty boring to lvl with it takes like 4-5 hits to kills something and it doesnt have an area affect...

warlocks dont get aoe skills untill 50+ and it does not take 4-5 hits to kill unless ur like lvl 20 and under


fixed :wink:
but still warlocks can solo easily and ur a zerk machine :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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GimmeMo wrote:
wetgwap wrote:
lol wizards sucks period unless u have sosun staff n good gear

Wizards suck cuz they can 1hit you even with a npc staff? >.<


Yea, I got confused as well, sosun staff is cool, but not required to do absolute damage, ffs youre a wiz...lol... :D

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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thechampion80 wrote:
whorelock wrote:
willieb3 wrote:
well i made a warlock and it was pretty boring to lvl with it takes like 4-5 hits to kills something and it doesnt have an area affect...

warlocks dont get aoe skills untill 40+ and it does not take 4-5 hits to kill unless ur like lvl 20 and under


fixed :wink:
but still warlocks can solo easily and ur a zerk machine :twisted:


dont u get the vampire kiss and bloody w/e thing at 40 or am i mistaken

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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^ after lvl 40, warlocks become more powerful that way.

Before that you can kill 1 mob with 2 DoT nd 1 Nukelett

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i like the wizard skills and at level 60 wizards become cool and stronger with the new skills
you will 1 hit nearly every int based charachter if you got a nice weapon you can own a full strong to so ill chose wizard!

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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So basically, if you'd like to be more unique, be less dependant on parties, and have a higher probability of surviving, choose warlock?

Am i right?

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GimmeMo wrote:
Puma60 wrote:
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My friends said warlock is more fun than a wizard, but i doubt it. There is no better build than wizard/bard to me.


Except from a Wizard/Cleric

I love my noise and moving march. (dont tell me to go cleric and buy speed pots...)
Giants? No problem, I can kill them easily.


yea that's about it only noise and march...
cleric more fun u know it is, dont deny it.

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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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thanx for all your input everyone, i've decided on warlock and am cruuently farmin 9800 sp down 381ksp left to farm -.- in the lil time ive played warlock its really fun

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death flower and dark blaze are the first aoes and they're lvl 50 :(


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 Post subject: Re: New Character Wizard or Warlock ???
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It's going to be worth it though, after you farm all your SP.
Cool-looking debuffs FTW. :D

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