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which build should i go for pvp pve and plvling
90 light 90 cold 90 fire 42%  42%  [ 11 ]
90 light 90 cold 90 heauskal 19%  19%  [ 5 ]
90 light 90 cold 90 bicheon 38%  38%  [ 10 ]
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lol still thinking of light cold and fire thou....
:banghead: why :banghead: is :banghead: it :banghead: difficult :banghead: to :banghead: decide!

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I already explained why it's more difficult for a nuker ^^

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lol still thinking of light cold and fire thou....
:banghead: why :banghead: is :banghead: it :banghead: difficult :banghead: to :banghead: decide!

i'm a lvl 53 nuker
Fire is my imbune and main nukes because fire has the best nukes. lightnight is my side nuke cuz its strong. and cold for buffs and snow sheild. i plan on doing Fire - 80 Lightning - 80 Heusksal - 80 cold - 60

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lol still thinking of light cold and fire thou....
:banghead: why :banghead: is :banghead: it :banghead: difficult :banghead: to :banghead: decide!

i'm a lvl 53 nuker
Fire is my imbune and main nukes because fire has the best nukes. lightnight is my side nuke cuz its strong. and cold for buffs and snow sheild. i plan on doing Fire - 80 Lightning - 80 Heusksal - 80 cold - 60


60 Cold for a spear user? Nah..

If it wasn't for 90 cap I would suggest that you rethink that. Balance Light and Ice or get Light to 60.. 80 Fire - 80 Heuksal - 80 Ice with 60 Light or 80 Fire - 80 Heuksal - 70 Light - 70 Ice.

But now that 90 cap is just afew days away. :twisted:

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lol still thinking of light cold and fire thou....
:banghead: why :banghead: is :banghead: it :banghead: difficult :banghead: to :banghead: decide!

i'm a lvl 53 nuker
Fire is my imbune and main nukes because fire has the best nukes. lightnight is my side nuke cuz its strong. and cold for buffs and snow sheild. i plan on doing Fire - 80 Lightning - 80 Heusksal - 80 cold - 60


60 Cold for a spear user? Nah..

If it wasn't for 90 cap I would suggest that you rethink that. Balance Light and Ice or get Light to 60.. 80 Fire - 80 Heuksal - 80 Ice with 60 Light or 80 Fire - 80 Heuksal - 70 Light - 70 Ice.

But now that 90 cap is just afew days away. :twisted:


ice has the worsts nukes in the game, i'm doing fire and lightning. at 6D i was the strongest because of that. no one could kill me. and i could 1 hit anyone lvl 1-52.


also i'm lvl 54 atm and i 1 hit penon fighters and penon warriors and i 2 hit yetis

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ice has the worsts nukes in the game, i'm doing fire and lightning. at 6D i was the strongest because of that. no one could kill me. and i could 1 hit anyone lvl 1-52.


also i'm lvl 54 atm and i 1 hit penon fighters and penon warriors and i 2 hit yetis


ice has the worsts nukes in the game, i'm doing fire and lightning. at 6D i was the strongest because of that. no one could kill me. and i could 1 hit anyone lvl 1-52.


also i'm lvl 54 atm and i 1 hit penon fighters and penon warriors and i 2 hit yetis[/quote]

Lol.. you dont take Ice for the Nukes at cap?

Forget about 1 hitting Penons and bla bla 6D, we talking Capped Pvping. I can have the strongest Nuker at lvl 60... 60 Fire - 60 Ice - 60 Heuksal - Light.. but that is not the point.

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what is it about ice that you like? other then it has snow sheild and phy def buffs theres nothing else good about it. Lightning is good for nukers because it add mag dmg with buff and you can move faster and the nukes ar strong. fire has mag def and its nukes and imbune ar strong. i dont get what there is to like about cold for nuking

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lockstar is right, i want to plan a working build for the 90cap

at lvl 90 i will hav 30 force because i will be plvling my other char
so im really planing for the 100 cap as well

if i choose 3, it will be good.
if i choose more then 3 its not as strong. at 90 you wouldnt have fire force light ice and bich at 60.... youd suck at pvp! and pve! not to mention slow lvling, so going with 3 skill trees seems the best idea.

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penfold1992 wrote:
lockstar is right, i want to plan a working build for the 90cap

at lvl 90 i will hav 30 force because i will be plvling my other char
so im really planing for the 100 cap as well

if i choose 3, it will be good.
if i choose more then 3 its not as strong. at 90 you wouldnt have fire force light ice and bich at 60.... youd suck at pvp! and pve! not to mention slow lvling, so going with 3 skill trees seems the best idea.

90 i'm doing Fire - 90 Lightning - 90 Heuksal - 90 Cold - 30

it makes the most sense!

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what is it about ice that you like? other then it has snow sheild and phy def buffs theres nothing else good about it. Lightning is good for nukers because it add mag dmg with buff and you can move faster and the nukes ar strong. fire has mag def and its nukes and imbune ar strong. i dont get what there is to like about cold for nuking

its got that huge aoe with the 2nd book, that plus the light imbue would also spash out of the aoe would be really good aoe more aoe then fire, ice nukes have the lowest cool down and out range lighting a little, plus it just looks cooler

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the fire ball nuke has just asmuch range as the ice nuke. ive tested it.
and you can't get the skill just cuz it looks cool. it has to be worth more then that or its a waist of mp and you'll be a weak char.

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Check the link in my sig for a proper s/s build that owns in 1v1 pvp.

cold is purely for phy def, snowshield, and freeze novas for noobs that are not immune. Everything else in that mastery is total shit lol. I only recomend leveling other skills in cold if you got sp to spare.

Light get all of the skills maxed.

Sword get all maxed if you never want to be bored, demon cut blade series is the only one you should leave out if you not got sp to spare. All the others most definatly get.

Fire purely for imunity, phy dmg buff, mag def buff.

I can not recomend going fire light and ice to 90/90/90 its very hard to chain nuke most builds to death, its possible, just need a very good sword sun or moon at least.

Sword mastery has just to many + points (kd, block ratio, ironshield, bleed, division, impotent.

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what is it about ice that you like? other then it has snow sheild and phy def buffs theres nothing else good about it. Lightning is good for nukers because it add mag dmg with buff and you can move faster and the nukes ar strong. fire has mag def and its nukes and imbune ar strong. i dont get what there is to like about cold for nuking


Pure INT char with 30 Cold at 90 Cap? You will regret that , but it will be too late.

Ask anyone that knows what he is talking about and he will explain you why a Pure INT chinese char cannot be strong without Light and Ice.

And Snow shield and Phy defence buff + passive is not enough for you?

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Nukes aren`t the most important thing. You`ll get a new Lighting nuke at lvl 90... I`m sure it will be very strong. You can also max Ice nukes ( Second and 4th book that we`ll get with the new cap ). You also have your weapon skills.. And they hit very hard.. It`s not enough for you?

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what is it about ice that you like? other then it has snow sheild and phy def buffs theres nothing else good about it. Lightning is good for nukers because it add mag dmg with buff and you can move faster and the nukes ar strong. fire has mag def and its nukes and imbune ar strong. i dont get what there is to like about cold for nuking


Pure INT char with 30 Cold at 90 Cap? You will regret that , but it will be too late.

Ask anyone that knows what he is talking about and he will explain you why a Pure INT chinese char cannot be strong without Light and Ice.

And Snow shield and Phy defence buff + passive is not enough for you?

so your saying i should do ice just for the buffs at the 90 cap? the low phy def can be fixed with good gear. explain your case.

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the fire ball nuke has just asmuch range as the ice nuke. ive tested it.
and you can't get the skill just cuz it looks cool. it has to be worth more then that or its a waist of mp and you'll be a weak char.

no point in killing people if you can't look good doing it

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the fire ball nuke has just asmuch range as the ice nuke. ive tested it.
and you can't get the skill just cuz it looks cool. it has to be worth more then that or its a waist of mp and you'll be a weak char.

no point in killing people if you can't look good doing it

you wont be killing people with how weak the ice nukes ar.
and the fireball nuke looks awesome.

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so you need fire too?

ice light and fire. solved :D

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you'd use your light nukes to fight a higher or on lvl person, just use your ice nukes to hit groups of lowers, or use it as a support fire while your buddy runs into the fight, with a buddy that can tank keeping every one busy the aoe will kill them plus their dmg, dont' have to fight alone you know, even then you'd still be able to fight some what, having a maxed out snow sheild will add some serious longevity to you

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90 cold 90light is decided 100% im 70%sure im going fire

just 30% going s/s or heaskal masterys

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if i would be lvl 150 i would be full int with lightning&cold at 150


Theres no info from JoyMax and no any other info ( Like equipment, skills, areas ) about 150 cap.. >.< Why do you guys talking about the max cap? You should get 90 cap first.. And it`ll take a while... So try to talk about something realistic..



because! THE MASTERY CAP WILL ALWAYS BE 300 FOR CHINESE AND EURO UP TO 150 CAP!!! THE GAME IS ONLY MEANT FOR 2 MASTERIES!!! JESUS CHRIST!

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To all those who oppose 90 light/ 90 ice/ 90 heuksal...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0X6A8TRxt1E

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No-Weapon nuker isn't that good at 80 but it preforms well at 90+ :)

Read these threads, cba to argue again:
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@Brenton, How do you plan to kill any one if you're killed almost all the time? 30 Ice won't help you at 90 especially as a pure int. If you go hybrid you can drop ice but you're pure int. Level 5x pvp =/= 80-90 pvp. You won't pvp well at cap, but cap is only like 10% of the game. So I guess you'll want to enjoy your lower levels :)

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thats just one video... what about a "support nuker" (fire light and ice) and a s/s nuker (light ice and bich)

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what is it about ice that you like? other then it has snow sheild and phy def buffs theres nothing else good about it. Lightning is good for nukers because it add mag dmg with buff and you can move faster and the nukes ar strong. fire has mag def and its nukes and imbune ar strong. i dont get what there is to like about cold for nuking


Pure INT char with 30 Cold at 90 Cap? You will regret that , but it will be too late.

Ask anyone that knows what he is talking about and he will explain you why a Pure INT chinese char cannot be strong without Light and Ice.

And Snow shield and Phy defence buff + passive is not enough for you?


dude who cares about brenton, he seems like hes knows the most about a nuker.

once your lvl 90 brenton, show me a pvp vid of you getting your butt pwn'd.

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i changed my mind, i think Cold - 90 Fire - 90 lightning - 90 heuksal - 30 would be a good build....

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My build is cold fire light for 90. pvp isn't easy, but mobbing is very. If i come back to play till the end, and be full farmed, the i'd drop a tree for heuksal or bicheon.

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Warhammer 40k reference:

Nuker with weapon tree = Dreadnaught
Nuker with all force trees = Hellfire Dreadnaught

Which do you prefer?

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i changed my mind, i think Cold - 90 Fire - 90 lightning - 90 heuksal - 30 would be a good build....


I disagree, instead of 30 heuksal, 30 bicheon would be much better.

What would you rather have, 300 more hp? Or BR+4, and a 15 second physical defence burst?


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