Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap

Fyre · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 20 **Location:** us

As of the current cap, what do you think is the strongest overall PvPing build? As in, if you could have one of the following characters and one only, and wanted to do well in anything, be it jobbing, dueling, whatever, which would you pick?

Remember, this is in OVERALL strength. But if you have the time, feel free to post on what you think wins in the following situations:

1v1/Dueling: ??
Small Scale Group PvP: ??
Large Scale Job War/PvP: ??

I listed all of the builds I know, but if there's some hidden, super strong build I forgot, let me know.

Remember this is for the 90cap we have now.

Troopa · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 26 **Location:**

id have to say 2h/cleric.

1v1 pvp = 2h/cleric or pure int s/s
small group = ???
large group = ???

Builds you forgot to mention:

-1h/cleric
-1h/warlock
-rogue/warlock
-rogue/bard
-warrior/rogue
-warrior/bard

Fyre · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 20 **Location:** us

Pretty scattered input so far. x.x

Blinxx · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 463 **Location:**

warrior/cleric ( maybe 2h/cleric? )
a very versatile build that can withstand almost anything that's thrown at them, while dealing massive damages over and over.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

warrior/cleric and warrior/rogue hands down

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:19 pm

Nitro wrote:

Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.

i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

the_wicked wrote:

Nitro wrote:

Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.

i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.

Light Armor > HA / Robes

... female looks better ^^

slimshady · **Posted:** Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:24 pm

how bout duel build of blade/glaive

_Scarlett_ · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 1567 **Location:**

Nitro wrote:

the_wicked wrote:

Nitro wrote:

Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.

i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.

Light Armor > HA / Robes

... female looks better ^^

Dun see who'd go 2h w/o 1h skills. Gotta be able to tank sometime! And yar, fem LA owns. My War/cler be wearing those ^,^

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

Fyre wrote:

As of the current cap, what do you think is the strongest overall PvPing build? As in, if you could have one of the following characters and one only, and wanted to do well in anything, be it jobbing, dueling, whatever, which would you pick?

Remember, this is in OVERALL strength. But if you have the time, feel free to post on what you think wins in the following situations:

1v1/Dueling: Vs chinese, 2h/1h/warlock
Small Scale Group PvP: 2h/1h/celric
Large Scale Job War/PvP: If you have enough buffers, wizard

I listed all of the builds I know, but if there's some hidden, super strong build I forgot, let me know.

Remember this is for the 90cap we have now.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

_Scarlett_ wrote:

Nitro wrote:

the_wicked wrote:

i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.

Light Armor > HA / Robes

... female looks better ^^

Dun see who'd go 2h w/o 1h skills. Gotta be able to tank sometime! And yar, fem LA owns. My War/cler be wearing those ^,^

+1
female LA just looks the shizzz

Rozelady · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 314 **Location:**

wheres the option hybrid int s/s?

Fyre · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 20 **Location:** us

Rozelady wrote:

wheres the option hybrid int s/s?

That would be at the bottom, with the "Other"

Macsnow · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 1243 **Location:** Chair.

Got to say Pure INT s/s... that would be my first choice, tho a hybrid one does real good too. :roll:

Second choice is a Warrior/Cleric, in the right hands = pwnage.

Fyre · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 20 **Location:** us

BUMP! Need more!

Phix · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 716 **Location:** Ephesus

2h/cleric, but i prefer my str bow.

Stress · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:07 pm

100 fire / 100 light / 100 cold will own at small and large group PvP.

1 vs 1 PvP: Warrior / Cleric, STR Force Blade.

W/C for the reasons listed above.

Now...
STR force blade at 100 cap can:
- Inflict Bleed in two different ways.
- Stun in two different ways
- Inflict Fear
- Inflict Dull
- Inflict Division in two different ways
- Inflict Impotent in two different ways
- Other De-Buffs.

I reckon it would do great as a STR hybrid, because stun de-buff can save the blader's life if he gets critted or something.

Build: 100 fire / 100 force / 100 bicheon.

ahmedsabry · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 615 **Location:**

Stress wrote:

100 fire / 100 light / 100 cold will own at small and large group PvP.

1 vs 1 PvP: Warrior / Cleric, STR Force Blade.

W/C for the reasons listed above.

Now...
STR force blade at 100 cap can:
- Inflict Bleed in two different ways.
- Stun in two different ways
- Inflict Fear
- Inflict Dull
- Inflict Division in two different ways
- Inflict Impotent in two different ways
- Other De-Buffs.

I reckon it would do great as a STR hybrid, because stun de-buff can save the blader's life if he gets critted or something.

Build: 100 fire / 100 force / 100 bicheon.

good luck inflicting any of the status on anyone with sub cleric.. u wont be making much use of stun (being the stat the goes through holy ward) as u dont do much damage. on the other hand a warrior/lock for example can switch to 2hander-->warcry-->daredevil-->gg.
still 1H/2H/Cleric can kill both builds with ease.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:26 pm

You can have the Strongest char or Build around but if you don't know how to play your char you ain't winning lmao

but yea prolly for me this is the top 3 best builds

2h/Cleric
Pure STR Glaiver
Pure int Warlock/Cleric

YoMama · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

any build that knows how to pvp

YoMama · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 212 **Location:**

YoMama wrote:

any build that knows how to pvp

ie, a ksro glaive vs a isro glaive
isro glaive would win becuase ksro players do not know how to pvp

Stress · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:57 pm

ahmedsabry wrote:

Stress wrote:

100 fire / 100 light / 100 cold will own at small and large group PvP.

1 vs 1 PvP: Warrior / Cleric, STR Force Blade.

W/C for the reasons listed above.

Now...
STR force blade at 100 cap can:
- Inflict Bleed in two different ways.
- Stun in two different ways
- Inflict Fear
- Inflict Dull
- Inflict Division in two different ways
- Inflict Impotent in two different ways
- Other De-Buffs.

I reckon it would do great as a STR hybrid, because stun de-buff can save the blader's life if he gets critted or something.

Build: 100 fire / 100 force / 100 bicheon.

good luck inflicting any of the status on anyone with sub cleric.. u wont be making much use of stun (being the stat the goes through holy ward) as u dont do much damage. on the other hand a warrior/lock for example can switch to 2hander-->warcry-->daredevil-->gg.
still 1H/2H/Cleric can kill both builds with ease.

Blader can always knock down, though. After a KD, one's HP is pretty much recovered.

Fyre · **Joined:** May 2007 **Posts:** 20 **Location:** us

Lots of love for war/cleric and str bow. O_O

I'm curious why there's so little for lock/cleric. Wouldn't that be the ultimate combo?

Stun > Debuff > PO = One shot on any char in the game? Or am I wrong?

I know that offering puts out huge numbers. Isn't that enough, with lock -mag debuff and stun/sleep, to one shot even full str chinese bladers? Or 2h/cleric with mana skin up?

Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

IMO Rogue/warlock is one of the best pvp build... those say um...useless vs sub cleric with holy spell probably have never seen a skill rogue/warlock owned 2hand warriors...I believe its was Night_Watch on troy that pvp 2hand/cleric...he won like 4x in a row vs a 2hand...bless/skins..bleh he go raped over his skins lol. stun+DD+prick=owned....I need to frap some pvp fight cuz most of u here will claim that warrior/cleric>>>owned rogue/warlock.
and holy spell does not prevent bleed I believe...seen a force nuker still inflict bleed over holy spell.(didn't check the lvl of holy spell)
Rogue/warlock don't just stand in one spot getting hit..constantly moving around.

Phix · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 716 **Location:** Ephesus

Fyre wrote:

Lots of love for war/cleric and str bow. O_O

I'm curious why there's so little for lock/cleric. Wouldn't that be the ultimate combo?

Stun > Debuff > PO = One shot on any char in the game? Or am I wrong?

I know that offering puts out huge numbers. Isn't that enough, with lock -mag debuff and stun/sleep, to one shot even full str chinese bladers? Or 2h/cleric with mana skin up?

if the blade blocks, the cleric is sooo dead..

Starrie · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 1170 **Location:**

1v1/Dueling: Bow or Glaive, or a well balanced nuker.
Small Scale Group PvP: Glaive. The ghost spear series are handy when it's multiple vs 1 glaive.
Large Scale Job War/PvP: Same as Small Scale. Bower maybe for the range.

I Pk I · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 364 **Location:**

Cant tell for Chinese chars tbh because it all depends on their builds like a Blader could be:
90bicheon/cold/force 30 fire

That would easily lose to some other build =/

GiZmO · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 46 **Location:**

-1v1/Dueling: Pure Int S/S
Reasoning: Quads stabs make it easier it kill opponents quickly before snow runs

Small Scale Group PvP: Wizard / Cleric
Reasoning: deals out damage quickly and with AoE, takes down more than one person.

Large Scale Job War/PvP: Cleric / Warlock
Reasoning: Can debuff all the opponents with AoE debuffs then heal and buff the party

Grimm-.- · **Posted:** Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:56 pm

If you know how to use your character any build can top the other.
Just a matter of your tactics...

Why didn't you add bard?... IT is a nice build at higher levels.
Pure Bard<Pure Wizard. There is no chance a wizard can touch a bard. I dont know what would happen if they were given cleric sub tho.... probably wizard would be better O.o

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