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Is it any good? Or should i stick to fire?

Thanks for any help

Fire is better imo more dmg and in pvp ice is useless nowdays evryone is immune

Well ice totally useless, once 90 cap comes out and people seeem to be favoring the whole drop fire for another tree, some people wont be immune anymore, unless they are running with a cleric.

As of right now not many people can be frozen, but some are already delvling fire for 90 cap which they are praying comes in december.

So no fire means no immunity right? That would mean ice is viable again.

i see i see, so what should i do?
Stay fire or go Ice?

Go Ice if u want to freeze them go fire if u want more dmg is rly up to u more dmg or freezing.. do as u wish the point of tha game is to do what ever u want and have fun

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Fire > ice by around 5% damage. Read some test results.

You get frostbite and freeze as a bonus. Your choice.

i beg to disagree. euros aren't immune to ice. and all the lvl 80s out there are not 100% immune to ice! majority of them didn't bother getting all those anti-ice jewelries coz everybody was using fire imbue anyway.

Holy Word cleric skill gives status protection except for freezing. if you don't believe me, make a lvl 1 euro and open the skills tab, check out the Holy Word skill description
try it out on and cast it on somebody and let another guy use lvl 1 frost nova wind on the subject, euro still gets frozen!


ice imbue FTW.

Why people still say things they don't know ?!

I tried this before hundred times .. I put my holy thing and go pvp and ppl use nova - cold imbue - cold nuke against me ... when his effect number (depending on skill lvl and my skill lvl) are less than my holy number nothing happen .. I still fighting and nothing have effect on my .. no freeze no frost. .. I made a lvl 33 nuker get mad on me because his nove don't do anything with me at all and he always die with my crossbow .. I was -8 lvls than him but he didn't up nova book after lvl 1 .. he used his nuke and he frost. me easily .. as his effect number are higher tham my low lvl holy word ...

Any euro have cleric as sub class don't need to spend any money on acceories at any lvl .. just need to remember to holy word again after each round he die in pvp ..

im debating fire or ice for my pure str bow... still dunno leaning toward ice 5% damage isn't THAT much difference and I think the freeze and stuff would be great if they happen to not be immune.

ice is still good. not everybody are immuned.remenber this dude.And also u r hybird. Ice has snow shield. 50% damage taken from mp. hybird ice = When u got hit u can use hp po and mp po to heal. Lets said u got 8k hp For example a potion heals around 3000 hp.if u r a full str and got hitted by a nuker it heals 3000 hp to ur health and if u r a hybird with snow shield. u get to heal both mp and hp that makes u harder to die since u heal 3000 hp and 3000 mp at the same time.

even if both of u used same potion and hybrid does not heal 3000 hp and 3000 mp at least it would heals ur hp and mp close to full. check this out. u will notice something. and thats the reason y i said hybrid owns.

i'm fire/light but i do favour the ice side, because IF, i say IF joymax decides that fire shield can ONLY be used by people who equips shields at all times, then fire to 80:80 bow will become amost totally useless except little more dmg, but i am using fire because it has ice immune nothing else........

i have ice+light imbue

ice for grinding and pvp (when they arn't immuum)

if they are, i switch to lightnig

but if sum1 else use ice ur screwed lol

wtf then how come joymax put that in skill description!!!
still i firmly believe ice will pawn euros easier than fire or lightning. u are basing ur argument on cape pvp which is pointless, in real job pvp u surely will not want to waste time switching weapon to cast holy word.

Yea, and euros in job wars = party with cleric and bard = no need to switch weapon.

clerics and bards will be first KoS targets... human players aren't npc thieves or hunters, they will kill the buffers and healers first. contrary to popular belief, euros aren't really good in group pvp unless there are pure str clerics and bards out there.

think Ice would be worth getting, that is, if there's no 100% immunity. damage difference of 6%, for an exchange of freezing, I think it is worth it.

You always prove that you don't know anything about euro ..
First you say that Ice can own holy word .. But the fact is holy word have more error number than any statue effect ever in game and can prevent anything you cam imagine .. don't be noob and still say what you don't know .. you even didn't play a cleric and any euro before .. you just hate them with no reason

Second you speak about Jobbing ?!
let we see what you can do .. first clerics and bards will give all what they can do at the first moment .. and before you select them you will find all the party with a super def for 45 sec ... they have already before your appear fast speed buffs too .. they all have str and int buffs ... phy and mag def buffs .. and clerics are always sure that they have holy word on .. you can't kill them fast with all buffs and shield and healing skills ... the time you will spend selecting a cleric and 2 hits him you will find your self:
Crying from a bolt from the shadow in your heart forced you to be resed to town ..
OR being stuned , KB , KD from any warrior that will reach you in no time
OR being nuked 1~2 times and die fast
Or being stuned , sleeped , bumb planted by a war lock
OR being bind from a cleric or bard or wizard ..
OR you all die in 1 offering from the cleric ..

And even if there is no cleric .. In jobbing i always buff myslef and then switch weapons again and go stealth ( or even no stealth )and wait any one to come near .. And mostly I will kill you before you start attacking me so I will not think about your ice .. and even if you succes to attack me i will be so happy that you have less damge on me and you still can't forst. / freeze me as I ALWAYS keep my holy word on .. and If I see danger here I easily switch weponds and stay cool with my cleric rod and shield + my pure str build + healing skills + bless spell .. even 3 glaviers my lvl can't kill me and I will heal my party well till you all die easily ..

your only chance that you have higher lvl ice imbue than our holy word or meet noob euro who don't know what to do ...

Using Ice is nice and I love it .. but don't say that Ice is the greatest thing in the world that you discovered and you will own all euro with ice ..
1 crit from a rogue lvl 72 and pure str glavier lvl 80 die ..
1~2 nuke from wizard lvl 72 and 5 pure str glavier lvl 80 die
1 offering from cleric and 8 glaviers will die

What's the point of ICe here against that ?
The real thing you need is light for max speed and ghost walk to escape from / jump on euro charecters and then have a chance to kill them ...

lol u say how strong ur chars are, but if u do go stealth we can use combustion or wot eva its called, if u get too close i can easily phantom 22+ meters and by the time u get close to me i would of killed u with my bow, and euro can buff chinese chars too, not only euro.

The fire combustion series isn't mobile, it works like a harmony therapy.

When it comes to euro versus china it will always end up as a who hit first, and you pray for no blockage.

nah, i usually pray for the other guy not to cry wen i kick his ass =D

wrong again, you presume too much. i have lvl 62 wizard on mercury. lvl 49 warlock on troy. lvl 35 rogue on venice. i know how much damage euro can dish out that is why i firmly believe ice is better than fire imbue in killing euros. you think u are so smart and yet you still can't imagine that simple fact that chinese will have better chance to pawn euros using ice. I still insist...

ice is the weakness of euros. holy word is never 100% ice immunity. try to fight a lvl 80 ice archer 80:80 with ur maxed holy word and anti-ice jewels. i still say u will get frozen. ice is the greatest discovery lmao.... i used to have ice pure str archer lvl 56 on xian during 60 cap. it was the best build for pvp that time. now with the euro update, i am convinced ice is back in vogue again coz majority of euros will never be immune to ice.

show me a video where in equal-level group pvp, euro party beat chinese party. they don't exist coz they rarely(never) ever happen. euro damagers like rogue/wizards only excel in 1v1 ambush type pvp. in wide-open mass pvp, euros die so quickly you won't even be able spell supereurofallsdownsofastsohard.

EUROS do NOT ALWAYS do 1hitKO, ok. furthermore offering takes a loooong 3-secs to cast. i still have yet to see a lvl 80 cleric doing pure offering that kills 8 lvl 80 glaives. ALL YOU CLAIM AS FACTS ARE JUST IN FACT, OVERZEALOUS SUPPOSITIONS. bb. you said it i am noob without any knowledge of euro. you are right. your word is holy nyahahahahahaha!!!!!!

80:80 can't max Ice .. when gap 90 come 80:80 bow with ice will be the biggest noob build ever ...

Tell mw how you will do you masteries ?
90 bow , 90 ice , 90 fire , 30 light ? sux ... you have weakest imbue and too low +mag damge ... and no speed no phantom ..
Or you will do :
90 bow , 90 ice , 60 fire , 60 light ? ..

lol even pure INT bow will own you and all INT builds will own you .. and you speak about freeze/forst euro ... wizards will easier freeze you .. you can't be imunue when leave fire behinde ... and warlock will sleep you too easy and kill you before get out of your sweet dreams ..

And even your snow shield will not save you from euro .. will will die in 1 crit of crossbow even in your snow shield or 2 non-crit hits and will not find time to freeze/forst before die .. but when you have fire or light you kill the crossbower 1 hit in his extreme bow if you survived his first hit .. you will kill wizard in 1 hit too .. I speak about 1 VS 1 here ...

All euro builds can kill you so fast and die so fast (expect warrior) so your ice will give you profit only against warriors but you still can't kill them as they wil have so great HP so great def and your ice imbue so weak .. your ice will turn it to only pot war .. nothing intersting ..

If you need to give someone ICE against euro you should give this to pure str bow .. he have low non-crit so euro can survive a little against him and he have no shield , no more HP so he will die faster than glaviers and bladers .. but 80:80 bow is a killing machine so don't be noob and make it weak by maxing ice ...

And you speak about all cold mastery you should speak about pure int builds .. maxing cold will give them great phy def and great snow shield as they can use max snow shield due to great MP .. but nukers will not use ice imbue too .. they will freeze/forst with other skills like nova ... pure int can go 90 fire , 90 cold , 90 light ... or some people will make 90 cold, 90 light, 90 weapon ... but hybrid can't make 90 Cold ..

At last ,

Yes holy word skill is immune against everything ... I was lvl 21 mastery and some one tried to freeze/forst me with nova (lvl 23 skill if you know) and nothing happened .. he tried over 10 times and still nothing happened .. it's immune ( look at the effect number of max cold skills and copmare with error number of holy word and see ) ...

And plz show me a vedio of the holy bless get forst/freeze from anything ..

And yes euro lvl 80 can 1 hit lvl 80 glavier so easy .. and pure offering can kill up to 8 lvl 80 glaviers ...

I have a vedio of lvl 72 crossbower with +5 crossbow crit 22 k damge on lvl +70 glavier in protector means more phy def .. and you know how pure offering have +1000% mag attack and how it's super higher than crit of crossbow

lol if i was bow ice 80:80, i wouldn't go with any of ur mastery distribution, ur just an idiot, i would go pacheon 90, ice 90, light 90, fire 30, u make ur masteries like fire is a MUST, but its not, just depends on your build, if euro get close phantom away, their ranges are short compared to bow and euro dnt have grasswalk, i can easily freeze or frostbite ur azz from distance b4 u get close enough to attack, and the snow shield is 50% dmg absorption, i'm pretty sure i can take quite a few hits from rogue, and i can also use the ice wall, and dnt forget bow has the KB combo which has a very high chance of KB when used and also STUN from strong bow. But i'm 80:80 fire/light bow , i dnt rly like to freeze since almost all chinese L80 chars are immune.

lol
You always prove that you are an idiot .. You will go 30 fire with 80:80 bow ...

80:80 bow wear protector that means low mag def .. and you also will lower the fire so evey INT build will kick your ass in just 2 hits or may be 1 .. they are immune to your ice and you can't kill them faster than they kill you as you will loss some phy damge too from Fire mastery ...



lol .. Even big noobs know that only fools going to use 50% snow shield as hybrids ...
1 lvl 80 rogue can crit on you with about 12~16 k as you wear protector .. take 50% of this from your MP and you will have no MP to attack nor tank .. you will will stand watching him fu.. you and you can't do anything .. he can finish your MP with 2 non-crit hits too ...
even pure int charecters can't use 50% snow shield against 2 hits from a rogue same lvl and they also die even with snow shield .. and you will stay die from wizards and warlocks and clerics too in your snow shield .. they have attacks that ignore your def and absorbtion ..

And again euro can stop you faster than you can .. all stop skills have 80% chance



crossbow have 2 hits with 50 % KB , warrior have 80% KB and other skills with other percentages of KB, KD, Stun ..

Again I say .. the point to kill euro is to kill them faster than they kill you ..

Yes chinese bow can freeze / forst me without my holy word buff and this stop me , yeah .. but why the big noob stop me or KB me while he can 1 hit me ?!!!!!!!

seriously ur post are so fckin long i cba reading it, but wen have u eva seen a rogue 1 hit a 80:80 bow, u have ice wall, u can freeze dem, KB b4 they get too close to hit u cz u have further RANGE!, even with crossbow u have have a chance to stun them, and ints wnt pwn u just cz u de lvl fire and have less mag defence, u talk bullshit, 50% snow shield wud work quite well against another int, along with the high crit u stand a gud chance of winning with KB too and stun, u make it sound fire is a MUST, it isnt, in ur little world it might be but ice can work just aswell, almost ALL ints have taken ice instead of fire for the snow shield and phy def, which means very rarely will they have enough % to become immune to ice. Euro chars maybe very very strong, but they have a large pot delay and work very slow, so your phantom will come in handy along with ur range and ice wall and snow shield.