I hate the den ~~ sure you make more gold because people that don't pick up the gold or stuff... thats only if you have a monkey

and cheap on pots with the right armor... however there is a bunch of buttheads there and some high lvls like to go there with trades or summon scrolls everywhere to try to clean out the place... I have been farming on devil bugs also farmed on horses and H.Ghosts... but we found a good spawning place for devil bugs and we can of course kill them a bit faster ~_~ but I am pure str and have all som garment (all but boots

) and I'm using Som blade + shield ,even though when I'm done farming

I am going to get rid of ice and blade skills and go with Glavie

... one of my guildies has about 80K sp O.o for the first 40K-50K tho he went to den ~_~ but its up to the person

on where to farm , it just happens to be the best place for both of us
