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Should i get fire wall for bow?
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 Post subject: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:59 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:13 am 
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Yes, max it if you can.

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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:34 am 
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it sux that u cant move with firewall


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:41 am 
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DEFINITELY get it, if ya dont have it you will suck against euros.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:24 am 
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Your a Ranged char you really don't need to move that much to hit ppl :)

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for pvp, about as much as arrows
For higher level magical mobs...helps a bit :P

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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:11 pm 
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Don't ever use it in PvE. And you can move with fire wall ;) Unless it's fixed atleast...hmmm

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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:37 am 
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is it useful when ur gridin too beside pvpin?


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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:38 am 
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i thought firewall its like a wall u cant move or u can now?


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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:16 am 
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Well there was a bug which would let you walk around with fire wall, but I don't know if it's fixed now. And no fire wall is not usefull during grinding.

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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
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actually it is if you want to duke out the knockdown unique in the jangan cave or take less damage from those pesky lvl 94 lizards while killing a pt giant

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:50 am 
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how come its not useful during grindin when it absorbs magical and uses my mp isnt it like snow shield?


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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:08 am 
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Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
actually it is if you want to duke out the knockdown unique in the jangan cave or take less damage from those pesky lvl 94 lizards while killing a pt giant


For uniques it's handy idd, but I don't really call that grinding. During real grinding, solo or shared it's not worth it IMO.

You can use it but you can't move, like you said yourself. And later on the spawns are spread widely so you will have to move alot. Also wasting time casting it will take away quite some grindtime in the end.

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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:29 am 
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XMoshe wrote:
Well there was a bug which would let you walk around with fire wall, but I don't know if it's fixed now. And no fire wall is not usefull during grinding.


They didn't fix the bug yet, but, they somehow managed to make it harder to get stunned while doing the skill???

It happened few days ago with my bower during a pvp, so for y'all which were wondering, it's still working. For all which don't know the bug; Fight someone which can stun you, (Warrior, Glavier) have the most chances of stunning you, and before they do a stun attack hit your firewall button, and when/if they stun you, you will be able to walk with the firewall 8)

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XMoshe wrote:
Pan_Raider(`_´) wrote:
actually it is if you want to duke out the knockdown unique in the jangan cave or take less damage from those pesky lvl 94 lizards while killing a pt giant


For uniques it's handy idd, but I don't really call that grinding. During real grinding, solo or shared it's not worth it IMO.

You can use it but you can't move, like you said yourself. And later on the spawns are spread widely so you will have to move alot. Also wasting time casting it will take away quite some grindtime in the end.


it is for when a whole lot of mobs are at one place..

as a bower you dont have to move at all if you are surrounded by many mobs or if a unique spawns his reinforcements around himself at a certain xx%hp
the wall just negates a certain amount of damage till it goes down.
that gives you a slight advantage since you dont have to watch your hp gauge while being gangbanged.


for what you call real grinding, i.e. kill mob, pick drops, find next monster <--repeat
of course it isnt suitable since you'd have to throw it up every time you get to a mob
(thats what i understood from your post)

walls are for opponents that dont run out of range...
like in 1vs1 pvp normally the opponent runs towards you while you fire at him as a bower.

exception: vs a rogue
-> fire wall-> rogue goes out of range-> xbow extreme-> distance shot+ rapid shot
wall has to go down for you to get back into range


i guess we can say:

walls:
for stationary opponents in range of ones own attacks

advantage:
-absorbs certain amount of either phys. or mag. damage
-prevents attack suspending knockdowns or knockbacks
:arrow: it is possible to atack the opponent without interruptions while he has to rid you of the wall and a part of the damage = void

disadvantage:
immobility

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Master_of_Puppets wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Well there was a bug which would let you walk around with fire wall, but I don't know if it's fixed now. And no fire wall is not usefull during grinding.


They didn't fix the bug yet, but, they somehow managed to make it harder to get stunned while doing the skill???

It happened few days ago with my bower during a pvp, so for y'all which were wondering, it's still working. For all which don't know the bug; Fight someone which can stun you, (Warrior, Glavier) have the most chances of stunning you, and before they do a stun attack hit your firewall button, and when/if they stun you, you will be able to walk with the firewall 8)


Warlock is the best for that ;)

I agree Pan, although it would be kinda useless to use fire wall at pure phy mobs cuz it wont reduce the damage xD

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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:36 am 
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so its jsut very useful only pvp?


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 Post subject: Re: Do bow need fire wall?
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Tian_Qiang wrote:
so its jsut very useful only pvp?


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