Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:23 pm
Loyal Member
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 1921 Location: http://goo.gl/Lfwa
i'd give each 50/50 for winning :S people say warrior/cleric has holy and healing, but well, with stun/sleeps you can wait out the skin/blesses. The healing you can use scorn on bad pvpers and get them to heal you.
other than that, if rogue just stun/sleep, they can hit hard enough and crit to win. but warrior can use same pattern to beat rogue as well, since it has fast stun/kb as well.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:41 pm
Loyal Member
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1515 Location: Wherever my mind makes it to be
Devilman wrote:
Which one would you prefer? Why? I'm interested in other's opinions
I'd take the Rogue / Warlock simply because I find warrior / cleric boring
There's no real rush in the sense of "kill or be killed" w/ the top pvp build ...
Rogue / Warlock takes more thought, however slightly, to kill your opponents (w/o using trap + sleep), especially those w/ a cleric sub...it's not a tank, so you gotta kill whoever you're fighting fast...which takes thought 'n some other variables ....
Warrior / cleric needs good weapon switching ...'n at least decent gear (+5 or higher)
_________________ "To gain that which is worth having, it may be necessary to lose everything else."
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:43 am
Banned User
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 357 Location: trying to figure that out
rogue/lock over kill especially against non clerics warrior/cleric everyone knows about them even if they dont play sr i would go rogue/lock just because warlock is underrated and underused same as rogue
_________________ Perfect World International Lost City Cleric-6x Blademaster-4x
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:45 am
Regular Member
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 206 Location: SRO titan(new)
Well no I would take 100% Rogue lock For the following techique: 1-Stealth and hit him from the back with a stun. 2-Change to rod then daze,burn,dull, sleep...... 3-Change to rogue and finish him with combos.... 4- Mostly no scratch on you
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:24 pm
Advanced Member
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2241 Location: The parents basement
very intelligent wrote:
lol against clerics warlock is useless.
very intelligent wrote:
Don't underestimate a build that you dont have.
very intelligent wrote:
probably warrior will win in this match-up, but chinese own them both.
That couldn't be more untrue. A Rogue/Warlock is overkill on any chinese. A Rogue/Cleric can hit 46k crit on a Blader, now imagine the damage when the Blader is fully debuffed, the chinese would have no chance in hell of winning. Also everyone knows Warrior/Clerics own Chinese in PvP, it's just common knowledge.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:47 pm
Banned User
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 357 Location: trying to figure that out
Puma60 wrote:
very intelligent wrote:
lol against clerics warlock is useless.
very intelligent wrote:
Don't underestimate a build that you dont have.
very intelligent wrote:
probably warrior will win in this match-up, but chinese own them both.
That couldn't be more untrue. A Rogue/Warlock is overkill on any chinese. A Rogue/Cleric can hit 46k crit on a Blader, now imagine the damage when the Blader is fully debuffed, the chinese would have no chance in hell of winning. Also everyone knows Warrior/Clerics own Chinese in PvP, it's just common knowledge.
warrior/cleric is always hard to kill but its possible it bothers me how much effect skills they have along with def increase
_________________ Perfect World International Lost City Cleric-6x Blademaster-4x
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:21 pm
Advanced Member
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2241 Location: The parents basement
Fimero wrote:
warrior/cleric is always hard to kill but its possible it bothers me how much effect skills they have along with def increase
Yeah, like every skill they have has either a KB, KD, or Stun on them. Then on top of that they have insane damage and crits with Daredevil, then on top of that they have their Skins, then on top of that they have their Bless, then on top of that they have their heals.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:52 am
Banned User
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 357 Location: trying to figure that out
Puma60 wrote:
Fimero wrote:
warrior/cleric is always hard to kill but its possible it bothers me how much effect skills they have along with def increase
Yeah, like every skill they have has either a KB, KD, or Stun on them. Then on top of that they have insane damage and crits with Daredevil, then on top of that they have their Skins, then on top of that they have their Bless, then on top of that they have their heals.
yea its kinda redonculous how much they have going for them
_________________ Perfect World International Lost City Cleric-6x Blademaster-4x
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:20 am
Addicted Member
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2547 Location: The Netherlands
karimgh wrote:
Well no I would take 100% Rogue lock For the following techique: 1-Stealth and hit him from the back with a stun. 2-Change to rod then daze,burn,dull, sleep...... 3-Change to rogue and finish him with combos.... 4- Mostly no scratch on you
99% of sro have invisibility pk2 edits. both build have good and bad sides but warrior/cleric probably has less cons than a rogue/warlock.
It is how you enjoy playing, if you are a 1on1 monster then warlock/rogue is a great build, if you rather be one of the key players of a party then be a warrior/cleric
Few movies that might help you with your choice: warrior/cleric vs chinese Code: Select all
warrior/cleric vs euro Code: Select all
rogue/warlock not that great quality but one of the few FF 100. Code: Select all
this was 5min work so try searching for more yourself might give you a decent clue on how both builds are.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:48 pm
Banned User
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 221 Location: Helsinki
Warrior/cleric is so overrated, i myself own warrior/clerics so easily i dont see why youre thinking they are good, i just tank their bless and skins, with their 4k 4k dd wont scratch my 25k hp.And when skins and bless are off, you know what happens.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:53 pm
Common Member
Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 107 Location: Far Far Away
I think you should go rogue/warlock. Simple because you have rogue to fulfill your pve and unique needs. You also got it for pvp, and if used right, will own any warrior...If you debuff your opponent and use 1-2 dagger moves, they are done...I've seen it done and know that it's easily possible.
_________________ Love is like a war, easy to start, but hard to end. If you failed miserably..you have just learned a lesson, "Never try" PHOENIX..Guild ~ Champions) Prayer - 98 Wizard/Cleric (NEW ACC) rDy2Die - 98 STR Blade (HACKED) Your mom - In process of logging in at my house.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:12 pm
Addicted Member
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 2547 Location: The Netherlands
very intelligent wrote:
Warrior/cleric is so overrated, i myself own warrior/clerics so easily i dont see why youre thinking they are good, i just tank their bless and skins, with their 4k 4k dd wont scratch my 25k hp.And when skins and bless are off, you know what happens.
4k daredevil? sounds like a 60% snow int with castle book on, that is when cleric skills come in handy, pretty sure you will either hide in the safezone or run once your snow is done
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:20 pm
Advanced Member
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 2241 Location: The parents basement
borat2 wrote:
very intelligent wrote:
Warrior/cleric is so overrated, i myself own warrior/clerics so easily i dont see why youre thinking they are good, i just tank their bless and skins, with their 4k 4k dd wont scratch my 25k hp.And when skins and bless are off, you know what happens.
4k daredevil? sounds like a 60% snow int with castle book on, that is when cleric skills come in handy, pretty sure you will either hide in the safezone or run once your snow is done
Unless he is a low level 70 bower or something. To say something like this:
very intelligent wrote:
probably warrior will win in this match-up, but chinese own them both.
I'm pretty sure he's low level. At 100, Warrior/Clerics usually kill any Chinese build.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:51 pm
Valued Member
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 458 Location: Valhalla
borat2 wrote:
karimgh wrote:
Well no I would take 100% Rogue lock For the following techique: 1-Stealth and hit him from the back with a stun. 2-Change to rod then daze,burn,dull, sleep...... 3-Change to rogue and finish him with combos.... 4- Mostly no scratch on you
99% of sro have invisibility pk2 edits. both build have good and bad sides but warrior/cleric probably has less cons than a rogue/warlock.
It is how you enjoy playing, if you are a 1on1 monster then warlock/rogue is a great build, if you rather be one of the key players of a party then be a warrior/cleric
Few movies that might help you with your choice: warrior/cleric vs chinese Code: Select all
warrior/cleric vs euro Code: Select all
rogue/warlock not that great quality but one of the few FF 100. Code: Select all
this was 5min work so try searching for more yourself might give you a decent clue on how both builds are.
its not really all about the build, but who plays the builds, found this video, that's 2hand sun warrior, so basically normal warrior with 98+7 has little to no chance of winning, all about set/tactics/crits. you all may reponds with bless/skin w/e but read comments, chinese did not use snow shield or firewall. I think chinese using 98-100 +7 set.
Code: Select all
_________________ Are you so foolish as to not realize your own impotence? -Freya. This ritual demands a sacrifice, and I can think of none more enticing than you...,Repent, for death is upon you -Arch Demon.
Post subject: Re: Rogue/warlock vs. Warrior/cleric
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:45 pm
Banned User
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 124 Location:
ech i can say that ppl who says that warlock useless agaist holy spell are noobs and rogue/warlock can easy work against holy spell by using only stun/reflect , i think even warrior/cler don't have a big chance against rogue/lock if rogue/lock know how to play ^^ , well my warrior/warlock 99 banned so when i lvl my rogue/warlock i will show how need to play it right , i haven't seen a good rogue/lock for a while.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum