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 Post subject: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:44 pm 
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just wondering, but as damage gets higher with higher caps, and snow shield also gets higher absorption, is it possible that axes and daggers with their high(ish) damage and fast attack will cause ints with high snow shield to run out of mp so they cant fight back?

I'm not sure if they had that problem at 90 cap already but I just think it might be a new way of "tanking" ints in snow shield is making them unable to attack from no mp

I know they don't have to use max snow shield, but well, if the damage is high enough then they might rely on max snow shield (plus its reason they are taking 100 ice mainly)

just not sure how ints manage mp since I don't play on chinese ints, can the 99% auto mp work? seems like pot waste but any lower might hurt their mp


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 Post subject: Re: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
PostPosted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:54 pm 
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Don't see how 1-shotting them with daredevil should be a problem ;o


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 Post subject: Re: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 1:14 am 
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Well, Daggers sure!
Even im 76, i can pwn any Chinese nuker with Max snow with prick :D

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 Post subject: Re: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 1:20 am 
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Who needs DPS when they (ints with snowshield) can be one-shotted.

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 Post subject: Re: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:01 am 
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well i was just thinking of ways to get around 1 hitting them :S


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:15 am 
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Mana drought, it completely wrecks ints that are using snow.

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 Post subject: Re: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 12:52 pm 
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just wondering, but as damage gets higher with higher caps, and snow shield also gets higher absorption, is it possible that axes and daggers with their high(ish) damage and fast attack will cause ints with high snow shield to run out of mp so they cant fight back?

I'm not sure if they had that problem at 90 cap already but I just think it might be a new way of "tanking" ints in snow shield is making them unable to attack from no mp

I know they don't have to use max snow shield, but well, if the damage is high enough then they might rely on max snow shield (plus its reason they are taking 100 ice mainly)

just not sure how ints manage mp since I don't play on chinese ints, can the 99% auto mp work? seems like pot waste but any lower might hurt their mp



I played on my friends lvl 90 full farmed full int s/s nuker. I pvped a warrior with 2hand and axes. When he was using 2hand skills i had no problems, but when he used axes it drained my mana completely. Note that this was at 90 cap. Dunno how its gonna be now, but i see no reason why it should change. Anyway, it made me farm more to get all my axe skills.

Its kinda dumb that all other answers here are "OMG JUST 1 SHOT HIM!". A guy asks a normal question and all replies are very immature and unintelligent. If nukers(chinese ofc) were 1 shot nobody would play them.


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 Post subject: Re: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:22 pm 
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first of all there is a bich diff between a full nukes cold/light/fire (this build isnt good for pvp anyways) and bich/cold/light.. full int
bich/cold/light wont need alot mp bich skills almost dont use mana then its just casting imbue which doesnt cost alot of mp either
dagger is useful but everybody got invisible hack *ofc i dont* they see you coming cast iron wall or even crystal wall to not get dmg from prick ... better wait untill there snowshield is over xD

i think 2h/wiz/Xbow makes the best chance

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 Post subject: Re: axe/dagger are snow shield killer?
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robink wrote:
first of all there is a bich diff between a full nukes coldlightfire and bich/cold/light
bich/cold/light wont need alot mp bich skills almost dont use mana then its just casting imbue which doesnt cost alot of mp either


It was a bich/ice/fire, +5 full blue garment wearing nuker, and yet it sucked mp in a matter of seconds. The axes were 85+5, 2hand 85+7. Axes drained whole mp, 2hand was a joke.

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dagger is useful but everybody got invisible hack *ofc i dont* they see you coming cast iron wall or even crystal wall to not get dmg from prick ... better wait untill there snowshield is over xD

i think 2h/wiz/Xbow makes the best chance


Wizard is not a 1v1 pvp build... 2hand and xbow rely on crits way too much. You cant 1 shot a nuker with snow shield unless its a double daredevil crit. How often is that? Xbow is simpler because it has CE.


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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:57 pm 
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robink wrote:
first of all there is a bich diff between a full nukes cold/light/fire (this build isnt good for pvp anyways) and bich/cold/light.. full int
bich/cold/light wont need alot mp bich skills almost dont use mana then its just casting imbue which doesnt cost alot of mp either
dagger is useful but everybody got invisible hack *ofc i dont* they see you coming cast iron wall or even crystal wall to not get dmg from prick ... better wait untill there snowshield is over xD

i think 2h/wiz/Xbow makes the best chance

yes... and if you can make it so they have no mp, you don't need to rely on 1 hit wins

I know sword(galvie) skills/imbue doesn't take a lot of mp, so I was wondering if axe/daggers (without buff) do enough damage to mp to make it so they can't even weapon attack, makes people want to reconsider snow shield dependent builds later on maybe

and remember no new pots + higher mp costs on all skills at 100+ caps... think mp pots can cover all of it?


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