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eddelbanatao
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Post subject: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:19 pm |
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guys,i need some help atm,im a lvl 59 s/s pure int nuker having 56fire/cold/light without bich mastery.. i got fire because as we all know,it gives the highest damage nukes and imbue compare to others.. i planned to make a full force nuker(100cold,light,fire) but im so much bored while watching my hero  nuke then nuke then nuke then nuke forever.. i also tried pvp to test this build but it seems that i don't exist all the time,maybe in 10 battles,i just won 2 times(even with my sos+5 shield and some sos protector set) i don't have any idea about spear build but heuksal skills are cool as i watch videos on youtube.. i usually see spear nukers using fire imbue but i dont know if that build will still work in this cap there are 3 problems im facing right now: 1) i want to shift to spear because sword+shield = too expensive 2)i want to open my heuksal mastery 3)hybrid build or continue my pure int so my questions are:1)what's the best build for my spear nuker that suits this cap?? 2)if hybrid,how am i going to make it?? please make it accurate.i would really appreciate your help and suggestions.
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fckerr
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:12 pm |
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1) 2 options for build , 100light100cold100heuskal or 100fire100heuskal and 40/60 , 50/50 , 60/40 light/cold...
2) Pure int for first build and about 1/6 hybrid for second build ~15 lvls of str.
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eddelbanatao
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:56 pm |
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well,most people says 100heuksal,cold and light are better builds for this cap.. but im pretty much curious with that 1/6 hybrid int you're talking about..how is that?? sorry man but honestly,i don't know what do you mean by 1/6 build and other hybrid ratios if you're not irritated with me,can you make a brief explanation of that build??.. can't get it man.. anyways,thanks.. 
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fckerr
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:12 pm |
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eddelbanatao wrote: well,most people says 100heuksal,cold and light are better builds for this cap.. but im pretty much curious with that 1/6 hybrid int you're talking about..how is that?? sorry man but honestly,i don't know what do you mean by 1/6 build and other hybrid ratios if you're not irritated with me,can you make a brief explanation of that build??.. can't get it man.. anyways,thanks..  1/6 means that for 1 str point u put 6 int. And hybrid is better with fire.
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eddelbanatao
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:19 pm |
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so there will still be 2 extra stat points left if i do that.. am i right??.
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:26 pm |
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1:6 hybrid int means exactly 1str:6int ratio. Which means each 7 points you add, 6 will be INT, and 1 will be STR. At 100 cap, knowing you'll level 99 times to get to it (from level 1 to 100), you'll have 297 stat points to distribute (each level you get 3 points to distribute, 99x3=297). Using the ratio 1:6 hybrid int, you'll then have to add nearly 45 STR points* and 252 INT points*. Which, as said by fckerr, means you'd add 15 lvls of STR (each lvl = 3 points). * This wouldn't be exactly the ratio 1:6, but extremely close to it. The most correct way possible would be to add 42 STR and 255 INT, but there's no need in worrying about this. Simply adding 15 lvls of STR is easier and close enough. eddelbanatao wrote: 1)what's the best build for my spear nuker that suits this cap?? Possible builds: - 100heuksal/100lightning/100cold
Good defense and good mobility, very high magical attack, relatively low quantity of nukes (3 nukes that go up to your level, 2 of these are cold nukes which are weak, and one is from lightning) when compared to the build below; very good at group pvping, as well as good at 1vs1 pvping. - 100heuksal/100fire/100cold
Very good defense, low mobility; wide variety of nukes to choose from (4 strong nukes from fire, where one of them would be 10 lvls behind, but still very strong, and 2 nukes from cold); best at 1vs1 pvping than the one above, worse at group pvping because it lacks speed/mobility; has both ice and fire walls. - 100fire/100lightning/100cold
Best at group pvping, worse at 1vs1 pvping. Will have a huge variety of nukes, very high speed and very high defense, but would lack weapon skills which are used for disabling your enemies, they are invaluable in 1vs1 pvp situations; has both ice and fire walls.
I think this is it. If you are planning on going for a hybrid, you could also consider 100heuksal/100fire/60-80cold/40-20lightning, depending on what you prefer, if it's speed/mobility (light) or defense and survivability (cold).
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Bobby
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:46 pm |
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Like ur new avatar raphaell.
For this cap, i'd go 100Heuskal/100Fire/60Cold/40Light assuming u go hybrid. But u even go ahead and max light and cold instead.
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:11 am |
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Bobby wrote: Like ur new avatar raphaell.
For this cap, i'd go 100Heuskal/100Fire/60Cold/40Light assuming u go hybrid. But u even go ahead and max light and cold instead. Hehe, thanks Bobby, I like it too.  And yeah, if you are planning on going hybrid, 100heuksal/100fire/60cold/40light would be just perfect, but then it'd maybe be better if you went with something with more than 15 lvls of STR, as with 60cold your defense would be kinda low. You could go with protector anyways, as fire already gives you a considerable amount of magical defense. But still, if you were to go with 100fire/60cold I think I'd prefer something like 20 lvls of STR, but that just me. 
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eddelbanatao
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:26 pm |
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im still undecided i want a spear nuker build that is good in PVP,grinding, fortress war,guild war,group pvp. in short,i want a build that is good for any kind of battle.. so what do you think??. i already thought to make 100heuksal/light/ cold.. but im not very sure of it.. if you gonna give me a convincing answers and suggestions.. that would be great and i will not bother you anymore.. i am going to shut my mouth already. 
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:30 pm |
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eddelbanatao wrote: im still undecided i want a spear nuker build that is good in PVP,grinding, fortress war,guild war,group pvp. in short,i want a build that is good for any kind of battle.. so what do you think??. i already thought to make 100heuksal/light/ cold.. but im not very sure of it.. if you gonna give me a convincing answers and suggestions.. that would be great and i will not bother you anymore.. i am going to shut my mouth already.  100heuksal/100light/100cold is good at all that. It has speed, defense, survivability, damage, weapon skills, AoE nukes, ice wall, etc etc. And I'm sure it's good. I doubt anyone can prove I'm wrong. By the way, I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy if you leveled 10 lvls of STR (30 points into STR) for a increased survivability and increased performance at PvP situations in general. Just add it whenever you feel like (not all at once, unless you are near the cap, or else your damage will suffer a rather big damage drawback).
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:39 am |
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raphaell666 wrote: eddelbanatao wrote: im still undecided i want a spear nuker build that is good in PVP,grinding, fortress war,guild war,group pvp. in short,i want a build that is good for any kind of battle.. so what do you think??. i already thought to make 100heuksal/light/ cold.. but im not very sure of it.. if you gonna give me a convincing answers and suggestions.. that would be great and i will not bother you anymore.. i am going to shut my mouth already.  100heuksal/100light/100cold is good at all that. It has speed, defense, survivability, damage, weapon skills, AoE nukes, ice wall, etc etc. And I'm sure it's good. I doubt anyone can prove I'm wrong. By the way, I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy if you leveled 10 lvls of STR (30 points into STR) for a increased survivability and increased performance at PvP situations in general. Just add it whenever you feel like (not all at once, unless you are near the cap, or else your damage will suffer a rather big damage drawback). ok dude,i really appreciate your help.. now, i've made up my mind and i will dlevel my fire now and get heuksal mastery.. but i got a question for your raphaell666: im level 59 at the moment,hmm i don't have any idea how to put those 10 levels of str.. should i put all those at once? i mean if i am going to put all stats at str until i reach level 69 or what??.. can you make it clear for me if how am i going to put that 10 levels of str..please 
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Bobby
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:02 am |
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eddelbanatao wrote: raphaell666 wrote: eddelbanatao wrote: im still undecided i want a spear nuker build that is good in PVP,grinding, fortress war,guild war,group pvp. in short,i want a build that is good for any kind of battle.. so what do you think??. i already thought to make 100heuksal/light/ cold.. but im not very sure of it.. if you gonna give me a convincing answers and suggestions.. that would be great and i will not bother you anymore.. i am going to shut my mouth already.  100heuksal/100light/100cold is good at all that. It has speed, defense, survivability, damage, weapon skills, AoE nukes, ice wall, etc etc. And I'm sure it's good. I doubt anyone can prove I'm wrong. By the way, I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy if you leveled 10 lvls of STR (30 points into STR) for a increased survivability and increased performance at PvP situations in general. Just add it whenever you feel like (not all at once, unless you are near the cap, or else your damage will suffer a rather big damage drawback). ok dude,i really appreciate your help.. now, i've made up my mind and i will dlevel my fire now and get heuksal mastery.. but i got a question for your raphaell666: im level 59 at the moment,hmm i don't have any idea how to put those 10 levels of str.. should i put all those at once? i mean if i am going to put all stats at str until i reach level 69 or what??.. can you make it clear for me if how am i going to put that 10 levels of str..please  Most people like to put them on at the end so they can lvl quicker to cap. U might wanna space out those lvls a bit tho.
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:48 am |
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Theres a myth that if you put str/int in the final levels of cap u'd get max hp/mp... Thats why im 84 now and havent put any str point...
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raphaell666
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:58 pm |
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Bobby wrote: eddelbanatao wrote: raphaell666 wrote: 100heuksal/100light/100cold is good at all that. It has speed, defense, survivability, damage, weapon skills, AoE nukes, ice wall, etc etc. And I'm sure it's good. I doubt anyone can prove I'm wrong. By the way, I'm pretty sure you'd enjoy if you leveled 10 lvls of STR (30 points into STR) for a increased survivability and increased performance at PvP situations in general. Just add it whenever you feel like (not all at once, unless you are near the cap, or else your damage will suffer a rather big damage drawback). ok dude,i really appreciate your help.. now, i've made up my mind and i will dlevel my fire now and get heuksal mastery.. but i got a question for your raphaell666: im level 59 at the moment,hmm i don't have any idea how to put those 10 levels of str.. should i put all those at once? i mean if i am going to put all stats at str until i reach level 69 or what??.. can you make it clear for me if how am i going to put that 10 levels of str..please  Most people like to put them on at the end so they can lvl quicker to cap. U might wanna space out those lvls a bit tho. Yes, most people put these 10 lvls of STR at near the last 10 lvls to the cap, like add them from 90 to 100 or 80 to 90 is good enough. fckerr wrote: Theres a myth that if you put str/int in the final levels of cap u'd get max hp/mp... Thats why im 84 now and havent put any str point... Honestly, ridiculous. Don't matter when you add your STR or INT points, the result will be exactly the same at the cap, period.
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:39 am |
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pure int 100 wpn/cold/light or wpn/cold/fire are great pvp builds, final choice depends on your style for play. pure int 100 cold/light/fire is great better for pve, and good for group pvp, disadvantaged in 1v1 pvp.
if you going for int heavy hybrids, 100 wpn/fire or wpn/light and you can play around with the other remaining masteries that makes sense to you. based on the weapon stats, it seems chinese builds in this game are meant to be hybrids. so pick a hybrid and create your own success story, like almost every other hybrids in this game.
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:53 am |
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you could put 100 spear/ice/fire in the pot
sure they dont there what 17% (not sure what it is for 100 cap) buff but they already do alot of dmg just a suggestion tho
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Post subject: Re: im fuckin pissed off with what build im gonna do. Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:45 pm |
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Either pure int , heuksal/cold/light or fire/cold/light. THe first one is better in 1on1 and has alot of burst dmg like nuke, new flying spear and then ghost spear. Second one is worse in 1on1, its totally awesome in group pvp cause you can use only up to date nukes instead of 1 strong nuke and 1 weak nuke. This built has less interupts but more defense. Anyway only nuking would bore me so I would go with the first one. Look up some vids from this guy  . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53N1sdXR5Ck I like this vid the best  . Hes hybrid though.
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