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 Post subject: Skills Question.Warrior/Warlock
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 4:15 am 
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Hey guys i was wondering what the difference between vampire touch and vampire kiss? I know vampire kiss is AoE, but any other difference? Like to save sp im thinkin to get vampire touch to lv 12 which is the prerequistie of vampire kiss and then leave it, and just max out vampire kiss.

Same thing with Physical raze and physical ravage, courage/combat raze and courage/combat ravage. It saves alot of exp, is there any other difference between those skill other then the AoE part?

EDIT: Also does Wrath Daze and Daze share same cooldown? Or can they be used to stun 2 times if 1st time is resisted?

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Vampire touch has less cooldown than vampire kiss. Altho to me, vampire kiss seems fast, someone said it is slower than touch soo yea.

Ravages also have longer cast-time and maybe a longer cooldown. Tht's why it's better to use the razes in 1vs1.

And the two stuns have different cooldowns. The AoE one is slightly slower (or at least feels slightly slower) than the single target one

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 Post subject: Re: Skills Question.Warrior/Warlock
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:18 am 
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so what would ppl suggest, get the razes or the ravages, if you only had a choice of one,

also do they share cool downs? The raze with the ravage?

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 Post subject: Re: Skills Question.Warrior/Warlock
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:24 am 
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shadowclaw3 wrote:
so what would ppl suggest, get the razes or the ravages, if you only had a choice of one,

also do they share cool downs? The raze with the ravage?


I'm not quite sure if they share cooldowns. But if u can only get one, IMO get the razes. They are great for 1vs1 pvp, and ravages aren't tht great for group pvp becuz of the ammount of holy word/spell users.

BTW, just remembered, the raze cooldowns are tiny anyway, so if u failed, u could pretty much instantly put back on a raze instead of using ravage

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 Post subject: Re: Skills Question.Warrior/Warlock
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:54 am 
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The single target Vampire Touch has a faster cast, its absorbtion is based on your warlock rod and the Blood Aim passive, the Vampire Kiss is an AoE that absorbs a very large amount of HP from the sorrounding targets, as a Warrior Warlock this is a savior and you must max it out. Vampire Touch will give you 3~4k HP Absorb at lvl 90 while Vampire Kiss will give back over 10K HP from the sorrounding 5 targets.

Another reason to max out both of them is due to the fact that both of these skills inflect Disease at a higher level than Clerics Holy Word/Spell, if the enemy does not have Holy Word/Spell then debuffs will have close to 150% chance of landing when the enemy has disease. If the enemy does have Holy Spell then disease will allow Stun and Bleed to work almost instanteneously without resists.

Last words: always Max both and have a powerful Warlock Rod


EDIT: About the Raze's and Ravagaes, I would suggest only getting the Raze's, you will only need Physical Raze, Combat Raze and Courage Raze. The only Ravages I would suggest getting is Combat Ravage and Courage Ravage. The reason for this is that Combat Ravage inflicts AoE Impotent, this will save your ass when being ganged if the enemies dont have Holy Spell, as it reduces their attack strength, whilst the other greatly amplifies the amount of damage they take, although not as important its good to have it for the lulz.

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