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Blindfire · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 3844 **Location:** ...

Why aren't people taking Bicheon to 30 for the br increase from the passive? Paired with a shield with a good blocking ratio Daredevil and Knockdown would hit less thus increasing a person's survivability. Yeah snowshield reduces damage but a block stops it.

The Furious Ninja · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 353 **Location:**

some 3 element nukers do

raphaell666 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:02 pm

It's only 4% though, but do as you wish. And blocking depends on luck where snow shield does not.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

You get hit 100 times. For 100 damage each, makes math mad easy.
Br 18 shield+4 passive=7800 damage done to you.

Snow Shield (lv20, again to make math easy =D) 20%.
Total damage=8000

Yes, snow shield is timed, but you can still attack (for the most part) when you use it. Unlike shield if your not s/s, and if you are s/s it should be 90.

Sorry for the mathfail, no excuses >.<

wolfster · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 70 **Location:** VIP ecSRO

Shadowfox542 wrote:

You get hit 100 times. For 100 damage each, makes math mad easy.
Br 18 shield+4 passive=8800 damage done to you.

Snow Shield (lv20, again to make math easy =D) 20%.
Total damage=8000

Yes, snow shield is timed, but you can still attack (for the most part) when you use it. Unlike shield if your not s/s, and if you are s/s it should be 90.

10000 - 2200 = 7800

Sly · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 71 **Location:**

wolfster wrote:

Shadowfox542 wrote:

You get hit 100 times. For 100 damage each, makes math mad easy.
Br 18 shield+4 passive=8800 damage done to you.

Snow Shield (lv20, again to make math easy =D) 20%.
Total damage=8000

Yes, snow shield is timed, but you can still attack (for the most part) when you use it. Unlike shield if your not s/s, and if you are s/s it should be 90.

10000 - 2200 = 7800

lol @ math

OT: block > absorb; but the thing is block doesnt always work while snowshield will always reduce the damage. also that br 18+4 passive example, its like saying you will block a daredevil 22 times out of 100 if the warrior were to hit you 100 times. that is pretty bad rate lol. fortunately it doesnt work that way. its a 22% chance to block. so it could block the 1st hit or never block any of the next 100 hit. May be you have noticed sometimes a block 10 shield would block more than a block 14 or 15 shield.

Bobby · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 575 **Location:** Australia

well i'd much rather get a low snow shield than 4% block passive. If u get get snow shield, u still get to use a shield (no passive) , getting passive means u lose snow shield.

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

I believe at level 30 you have the first knockdown. Glaviers can equip themselves with a balde or sword and knockdown a warrior or use the Iron Shield. Which will probably increase your phy def by like 50 phy def + whatever your shield def is.

Aaron777 · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 244 **Location:** Texas

OTG wrote:

I believe at level 30 you have the first knockdown. Glaviers can equip themselves with a balde or sword and knockdown a warrior or use the Iron Shield. Which will probably increase your phy def by like 50 phy def + whatever your shield def is.

Maybe the iron shield idea would work, but I believe that KD ratio had a correlation to the KD level, so to say the lvl 30 KD would have a 50% chance to knockdown a lvl 30 enemy, and a very low chance of knocking down a 8d-9d opponent.

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:05 am

OTG wrote:

I believe at level 30 you have the first knockdown. Glaviers can equip themselves with a balde or sword and knockdown a warrior or use the Iron Shield. Which will probably increase your phy def by like 50 phy def + whatever your shield def is.

having that only lasts 15 seconds.
while snowshield lasts almost what 1-2 mins ? i rather have the snowshield then and using firewall.
i have yet to meet a warrior that can kill me or can kill me easly

the KD would be a decent ideea but sometimes you won't get and KD's you can't really count on them. like you can't count on the Stuns or Blocks either when you switch to shield.

Thomas42 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:31 pm

A lv30 KD would work with next to nothing efficiency, simply because it is level-based. The lv30 iron shield would be equally worthless.
OT: I would rather absorb 23% of all damage, than block 14% of all hits (100% block ratio blue on the enemy's weapon gives you br10+bicheon passive).

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

Haha, math fail.

Also, super low level KD wouldn't work.

Thomas42 · **Posted:** Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:44 am

Please tell me, where did I math fail?

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