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Blindfire
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Post subject: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:53 pm |
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Is it worth getting the attack hawks or should I just stick with the ar increase hawks?
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:18 pm |
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depends on the situation, say your grinding, it would be smart to use the attack hawk, and in pvp- versus something wearing armor, it will generally not hit alot, and the a/r would be moar helps.
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:59 pm |
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PuffZMagicDragon! wrote: depends on the situation, say your grinding, it would be smart to use the attack hawk, and in pvp- versus something wearing armor, it will generally not hit alot, and the a/r would be moar helps. Indeed. White/Blue Hawk for PvP Black/Lightning Hawk for Grinding. It's like having two wolves, and makes the difference between killing a mob in Strong bow (or devil arrow) + combo (200% skill) and Strong bow + anti-devil (250% skill). That's a rough estimate of the damage difference, and increase in effectiveness. 
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:20 pm |
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I personally dont like the attack hawks. They only ever attack one person so when grinding and attacking multiple mobs at once you dont get as many benefits from it.
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:23 pm |
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Very few archers grind AoE. Most people grind with Strong bow, Anti-devil and arrow combo. Here, an attack hawk helps.
On my hybrid archer, I was grinding with Mind Bow, Explosion arrow, Autumn wind and Light nuke. In that case, attack hawks don't help indeed.
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tedtwilliger
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:23 pm |
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I dont see why an archer wouldn't aoe grind though. Thats what give archers such good grinding speed, their ability to attack multiple mobs at once without having to move. Hell every build should aoe grind, attacking mobs one at a time is such a silly waste of time >_<
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rck shx pike
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:39 pm |
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I'm only going to have attack rating hawks, just to save extra SP farming.
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:10 pm |
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rck shx pike wrote: I'm only going to have attack rating hawks, just to save extra SP farming. yeah that's another reason why to not have them... 
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Blindfire
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 12:16 am |
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I appear to be using the wrong skills when I grind, I'll have to get mindbow and autmn wind. 
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:43 pm |
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tedtwilliger wrote: I dont see why an archer wouldn't aoe grind though. Thats what give archers such good grinding speed, their ability to attack multiple mobs at once without having to move. Hell every build should aoe grind, attacking mobs one at a time is such a silly waste of time >_< The reason for most people probably is the following: On my STR ice archer (at 70 cap) I could go through a grinding session (bow durability end) without using more than 50 HP potions. Of course I wasn't AoE grinding. I would repair gear once every two or three days. However, AoE grinding on my hybrid bow, I'd go through ~400-500 HP pots and repair gear every time my bow's durability got to 0.
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:40 pm |
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AOE grinding with Hyb makes far more sense since you'll probably be us light imbue, add that to all the AOE attacks and the dact you have Snow Shield, Your flying.
you are really going to regret not having silk to buy 10k arrows tho..
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:51 pm |
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Problem with AOE grinding for bows *correct me if I'm wrong* is that Bow's don't have many AOE skills which makes it a little bit more difficult to AOE grind....Or at least thats what I hear 
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rck shx pike
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 10:31 pm |
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When I'm grinding, I only fight 1v1. A lot easier than having four or five mobs on you, especcially if the mob has Knockbacks (god damn stupid evil wolves). When I've faced several wolves, I try to attack one but I always get knocked back so I end up running away. 
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tedtwilliger
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:14 pm |
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Tasdik wrote: Problem with AOE grinding for bows *correct me if I'm wrong* is that Bow's don't have many AOE skills which makes it a little bit more difficult to AOE grind....Or at least thats what I hear  Explosion series, Mind bow, Autum wind. 7 sec cool down on the first book of the first two skills and 5 second cool down on Autum wind. Through in the occasional Anti devil arrow or strong bow if the cooldowns aren't working well and problem solved.
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 2:55 pm |
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don't get the attack hawks to save on the sp needs.
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:25 pm |
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if u want just get lvl 10 pach thats it..
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Essa
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:59 am |
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if u have sp get them both if not get the AR hawks only 
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:10 am |
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I say get them. Even though some people believe you should "AOE grind". AOE grinding seems very inefficient. For one, you don't have many AOEs. Explosion series is lovely, Autumn Wind is pathetic, and Mind bow is random. You'll just keep drawing more to you causing you to spam pots and your durability will last 5 seconds. On top of that when you really look at it, you're not killing the other mob. The only way you even kill one with AOE ONLY is if you're attacking a party/giant or something that can withstand a ton of attacks for the light AOEs to hit. Why do that, when you can pwn 1 mob in 3 seconds and then move to the next, never - rarely using pots. And keeping durability maxed. Its cost efficient, and its grind efficient. AOEs isn't what make bows grind fast. The range is. Its not "Attacking multiple mobs without having to move" It's not having to move period. You kill one, turn and go to the next one.
DA Warrior can kill multiple mobs without having to move, their AOEs are about as good as Explosion series. And trust me, its not happy camping in grind land. Strong Bow is the way to go. Kill your mob fast, move on. However the AOEs are still awesome because they are stronger than the Anti-Devils. So obviously they have their uses, but it's not the fastest grind style around.
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:35 am |
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VcentG wrote: Autumn Wind is pathetic lots of ppl say that , could u explain me why pls ??? cause i am farming atm , and when i did the sp calculation i counted the autumn wind series too
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 10:51 am |
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oskone wrote: VcentG wrote: Autumn Wind is pathetic lots of ppl say that , could u explain me why pls ??? cause i am farming atm , and when i did the sp calculation i counted the autumn wind series too the first annihilating bow skill(i think) deal the same percentage damage, but they do critical in addition
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hyma
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Post subject: Re: Attack hawks. Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:47 pm |
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get both, use it at your own will  lightning hawk works great for meh, even when i job war.
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