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Alright if you had to pick one warrior build to go with a cleric subclass which would it be?
1h Warrior, 2h Warrior or dual axes?

2h would probably go best. 1h should also be gotten later on after farming.

Warrior with just 1 weapon tree is fail. 1h/2h/Cleric is win

I fail than.

I was just saying it's not remotely as good as 1h/2h. You can do fine with 2h only, but 1h skills definitely help ALOT.

Why would Dual axes be bad?

Why would Dual axes be bad?

It's not bad, but I don't think it's enough. Dual axes are the balanced type of warrior. Less damage than 2h, more than 1h. Less defense than 1h, more than 2h.

If you want both defense and offense and go just Dual Axe / Cleric, you might end up sucking at both. However, with 1h/2h, you excel at both.

Ah I see...well I'm trying to not sp farm a ton which is why I'm considering just choosing 1 warrior build for now...I wonder where any high lvl dual axes people are here on SRF?

if you can manage all three you're deadly. bleed, dull, kd and triple swing would kill anyone with a crit =O

but yea axes dont let you tank or do dmg nearly as well as 1h/2h, and imo euro either needs massive dmg or massive def to survive

And to add to the axe thing, the Immmunity they give. Now, you would think that is pretty useless since you are cleric already, but it is useful.. unless you have 100% maxed out jewelery and even if you do, NPC spawns higher than level 90 will still give you effect. Say you are on a trade with an active cleric giving out holy Spell and you get lvl 91 or higher NPC spawns, if you are with Axe and Holy Spell up they wont affect you but if you lack either they will freeze you and stuff.

I see dual axe as pwnage for griding as it is balanced, but without warlock sub it simply doesn't make up for the extra defense with offense.

2h/1h is the most common and useful build imo, it is a real shame that I didn't farm the extra SP back in the day.

So dual axe/warlock is smexyness?

I would go 2H is i was only choosing one class.

This is what I do tho...
I Have all three classes so you can choose what think you like to do the most...

[2H] The Most damage output. Usually Best for pvp against str.
Slow Paced to Grind with Although it has the most powerful attacks.
I Only Use two hander when.
A. Fighting a pt Giant
B. Pvping... Although in a serious pvp I use all three classes... 2H Is The Last weapon i use when weapon switching as it will kill them quickly when/if they have dull and bleed.
C. Dunno.

[Axe]
I Use Axes When.
A. Party Grinding... Its a fun fast paces class with cool looking skills
C. Inflict bleed in Pvp
B. Mess around with pvp. (Ints)
E. I Havent fought a warlock my level yet but i would use axes as they have the restriction things... And other classes that inflict curses and err stuff like that.

[1H]
I Use 1 Hander when....
A. Fighting wizards... (Not Really) But its the most logical thing to do.
B. Once i get to 64 I will use 1H When Pt Grinding in Cave. (Really Affective) -
I'm The tanker. I Howling shout 5-10 mobs at once and drag them all towards me... As The ints in my party take them out. Fun.

hmmm.....Dual axes actually doesn't sound half bad from what you wrote...dang it I can't decide....alright here are some things that my warrior must have...*greatest to lowest*

1. Be able to tank party mobs.
2. Be pretty good in pvp
3. Be a decent tanker in euro parties
4. Look smexy

And yah that's it...so judging from that list what warrior class should I be?

1. Be able to tank party mobs.
All Warrior Classes can tank pt mobs.
I can Tank A pt Giant. (You need cleric sub for that)
I Wouldnt Recommend 1H Though because such low damage.
I Use Axes For pt mobs... Its Fun Fast And Nice damage.
For the quicker kill use 2H. You can Tank Fine with 2H (cleric sub) and do the most damage.
2. Be pretty good in pvp
[1H]... Weak without warlock. I don't recommend it.
[Axe]... Rape ints... Have trouble with snow sheild.
Prevent statuses... (That's what cleric is for anyway so don't worry about the status.
They Also have Trouble with Str builds with sheilds.
If the enemy str build doesn't have a Shield You can tank the enemy... land some nice crits And kill them. But Watch out for the shield users.
[2H] The Best in pvp. Can pretty much rape any build... And is the strongest.

So. PvP ---> [2H]
3. Be a decent tanker in euro parties
The Best tanker in a euro party would be 1H But it is weak, and if you are in a euro party you should have a cleric, you wont need to tank all that much. So If you want to tank decent without a cleric in the party use axes.
... Just look at what i said before for that.
If you plan on having a friend be a reliable cleric go 2H. It has the least defense but still a great damage outcome. Also Dont forgot about bless and skins... This will allow you to tank with any weapon for a short amount of time when in tight situations.

4. Look smexy
They All Look Very Smexy 8D +

It Looks Like you want Axes But If you would have said be the best at pvp.
Then choose 2 Hander.
Pretty much the only thing i use 2H for is pt Giants and pvp.
If I was solo Grinding tho i may sometimes use it as i would want to have a pretty fast kill rate.. But if your in a pt then i would use axes... Just funner.





Also dont only take my advice.
I'm only level 61.
Make sure you get advice from 80+ too if you can.

2H is really good for soloing I think.
I had lots of fun soloing with my warrior.
I think 2H/1H/Cleric is good.

I'm just trying to find 1 warrior class not 2

depends if you'll get parties, if you want to stick to one and be ok at pvp and ok at pve get axes, they got some wicked cool looking stuff higher up. But i've always liked having a sheild. As a cleric i'd much rather have an axe warrior then a 2 hander in my party they are easier to keep alive how ever 1 handers are even easier to keep going, and to be honest in pvp i can kill an axes half decently just get my heal going they'd have to crit me to kill me as an int, bind back up and offering the axes fail where as a 1 hander could have block or the 2 hander wouldn't have needed to crit me.

But as you said you are looking for just one tree then go axes

Yeah that's what I've been leaning towards...
1. cause axes are smexy looking
2. I've never seen a really high dual axe char so my char would be original

2hand/cleric.....the only 1hand skill u need is lvl 10 shield trash imo...thats all most warriors use to stay alive while waiting for bless/skins in pvp...try attacking with 1hand skills with no bless/skins on most likely means death.

You can kill wizards in vital increase with 1h skills.

To add, tanking in 1H with cleric sub is easy without Skins/Bless since altering between Rod and 1H is easier than doing it to 2H sword, therefore its faster and easier to keep Healing orbit/cycle up.

And on top of that you would have Warcry to take care off if using 2h.

if u can farm go for all 3

In Tight Situations Warcry is a useless and unnecessary Skill.
I Never Use it when im weapon switching in pvp.
If The enemy is Stronger then usual then i will take the time and use it.
But you usually don't need to worry about it.

I am currently at 85 Warrior, so afaik there is another 2 levels to go on warcry. And here is some numbers with lvl 82.

Lynx Valor Phantom (+5) (85+5 2H Sword)
Phy. attack power 1405 ~ 1670 (0%)

Lvl 13 warcry gives 130 Phy. Power Increase. (Lvl 82 skill, gets higher at 90)

Lynx Valor Phantom (+8) (85+8 2H Sword)
Phy. attack power 1532 ~ 1797 (0%)

Closest is a diffrence of 3 weapon pluses (127 Phy.) I reckon it will go as high as 4 or 5 at 90.

Warcry is important in almost all situations as you can see it gives a major boost in attack. And if the enemy is not stronger, you wouldn't worry about getting warcry up since it should be easy.

One more question...can a 2h or dual axe tank a giant or party mob while soloing?

Any warrior can tank a giant or pt mob... If you cant you Obviously Fail.
Now if you add a cleric sub to that... You can move to pt giants also.

Btw. The Better tanker would be axe. They have more defense and stun moves to give you some time to regenerate hp.

Alright thanks
The reason why I asked was that I read some Warrior/cleric guide here on SRF and the guy made it sound like you couldn't tank one without having RD cept with 1h ....so I was just checking

It Does contribute a decent amount of damage but is it NEEDED.
No... Its not. Because you can kill enemies regardless with likely the same amount of skills you would when your using it... Maybe one or two extra.... Besides, With my build I inflict bleed on the enemy before switching to 2 hander... so that makes it even more unessential. If I manage to stun the enemy while putting bleed on then i will take the time out and use it. But Otherwise im going for the quicker kill... Although i do like to drag out my pvps

Btw @ Tasdik Dont Expect to start tanking at lower levels... Its much more difficult when you are 40- As you dontr have iron skin... Which is an extremely helpful skill when you are solo grinding and rely only on your skills to survive... You usually wont need to even use it because of Recovery division but if the situation gets tight either throw on iron skin or healing cycle... You will also have bless spell..

Alright thanks