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 Post subject: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:18 pm 
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Alright im sorry if there is another similar post but i made a char on Saturn(New) and she is a lvl 10 dual axe user pure str and i wanted to know before i start grindiing hard which sub should i choose cause i like the bard buffs as that noise wall and moving march but truth is i have never used any cleric spells but i do know that they are party related and i like playing solo and i rarely and i mean rarely play in parties im a lone wolf.
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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:52 pm 
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i like playing solo and i rarely and i mean rarely play in parties im a lone wolf.

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:09 pm 
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bard is good for solo and for party too cuz party always want some bard for the buff, later when u get a good lvl (80-90) change to sub cleric, cuz sub-bard sucks at pvp

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:41 pm 
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alright thx guys really apreciate the help
il go bard but what other spells should i get other than moving march?

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:36 pm 
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Sorry to spoil the party, but I wouldn't go DA sub bard if I were you. After level 40 or so you will find that you cannot tank enough to survive and do not deal enough damage to solo fast. I have a level 42 character who is EXACTLY this build. It sounds cool because he ran very fast and attacks fast. But eventually I gave him up for good because of the above. Soloing was hoplessly slow because of his LOW MELEE damage. Grouping I MUST have a cleric, else I was forced to run around (although I do run fast....). Trust me wasn't fun eventually, and I felt very underachieved for my level. DA does drew the MOST AGGRO out of the 3 warrior weapons thanks to its multi-hit. But it is useless if you cannot tank that damage. Iron Skin does not last long enough.

If you really want to go bard, use 1hs instead. If you really love DA, I suggest you sub cleric so at least you can tank. You can also consider subing rogue for xbow so you can solo from range.

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:46 pm 
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well i say go cleric but since u r a "lone wolf" u should go bard and if u start joing partys more u should switch to cleric it really helps

here is the advantages of both

Bard-Fast runner
has noise wich can reall save ur life some times cause ura euro

cleric-bless spell for pt mobs or giants
Healing division, very helpful can mean life or death, thinkg of it as a mini back up auto-pot
reverse(res) helpful for when ur main damage dealer or other tankers or cleric in ur party dies
over/glut healing idk how to incorperate this into ur pvp but even though ur a pure str (i hope u are) this hits absolute damgae so if uare pure int or pure str this skill does same damage

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:52 pm 
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First of all ... If I'd make a Warrior I wouldnt do DA 100% ... and if I need to chose sub for my Warrior ... I wouldnt choose Bard 100% ...

Fail x2 ... srsly dont do it ...

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:30 pm 
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well any warrior lvl slow in solo, the way to lvl up fast is in party (euro party), and u dont really need sub cleric for party (onle res if cleric die) cuz there should be a cleric in the party, the cleric should heal the one that recive more damage = warrior, for party play u need use vital increase cuz ur job is lure and tank, and these skill help a lot (vital+ cleric using healing cycle on u, idk how to die)

the other way for party is if there is already a warrior or something, is be the bard, using guard tambour and the dances do increase int damages and these stuff <---i dont like when a full str sub bard do that cuz looks like they are getting plvl -.- but is an option

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
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Cleric and Bard both are good, and if you can keep up with speed scrolls/drugs, then go cleric for a good defence, and since you like to solo all the time, maybe you take warlock into consideration too, since it will make you kill much faster.

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:09 pm 
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i would say go cleric because bard sucks at pvp and with clerics recovery division u can solo alot better than with the moving speed or noise. go cleric and lvl up reverse,grand reverse,faith,recovery division, bless spell, charity, holy word, and holy spell.( thats the same build i am but i have 2h/DA/cleric and it owns at pvp


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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
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DA\Bard ... SYSTEM FAILURE ... PLEASE DELETE THIS CHAR FOR GOOD :)
This is a run (away!) forever char. Never do that!

DA is not good at solo without a defence and\or healing support. I never had problems with my DA with recovery division support for example. So it would be good to choose cleric as a sub (Assuming you will solo mostly, if not then it is another story)

For more info, you shall look at other DA topics.

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 Post subject: Re: Dual Axe/Cleric or Bard
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:26 pm 
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you should go cleric because it will be a lot more helpful than just being able to run fast...and if you have a couple of mobs attacking you it will not matter if you hve recovery division and bless.

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