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 Post subject: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:55 pm 
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Hi, which is better actually?
i mean, which will lvl quicklier and which will pwn more at pvp/trades...
also which will be funnier to play?

-*can someone also tell me if i should take sub or not.
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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:58 pm 
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wizards are very useful in parties and do very much damage

rogues do very much dmg with dagger desperate and i am a rogue :D

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:08 pm 
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vacsux wrote:
Hi, which is better actually?
i mean, which will lvl quicklier and which will pwn more at pvp/trades...
also which will be funnier to play?

-*can someone also tell me if i should take sub or not.
thx

Both are good, wizards are magical and rogues are physical. Wizards have good AoE attacks but rogues dont. Rogues have more hp than wizards, so they can tank a little bit better. Both can make themselves invisible/cloaked. So, its up to you. Yes, a subclass will help you a lot, though you wont REALLY need it, its up to you. Both will be fun to play. Both sort off "pwn".

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:10 pm 
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wizards lvl quicker especially since they re wanted in partys. And they're good as traders and hunters because they can easily one hit the npc thieves. Basically both, one hit or fast kill in pvp, I think the rogue dagger skills are pretty cool looking though.
guess it depends on your style of play...
Wizard--Large damage dealer and aoe
Rogue--Also large damage with crits/kb/kd and with fun skills like stealth or monster mask
this may seem a little biased because im a rogue xD

sub isnt needed but it does help a lot whether you take bard or cleric

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:32 am 
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so actually both lvl fast?
but which does actually more dmg while grinding?


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:44 am 
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hi, do you know if xbow will use many bolts in a little time???
because i dont buy silk, i cant buy those 10k stacks.
if those bolts go empty too fast, maybe ill go wizard


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:52 am 
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do you mean die very much in pve or pvp???
because i dont mind dieing in pvp.


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:57 am 
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so i cant own giant without bless
how about rogue? can i kill giant easily with rogue (without spell)?


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:47 am 
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vacsux wrote:
so i cant own giant without bless
how about rogue? can i kill giant easily with rogue (without spell)?

If you remove DD or EX you can.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 2:11 pm 
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so there are actually no pros for wizard compared to rogue?
because ppl say rogue is better at both pve and pvp.

so all those ppl who take wizard just dont know rogue is better or are there any pros?


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
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vacsux wrote:
so there are actually no pros for wizard compared to rogue?
because ppl say rogue is better at both pve and pvp.

so all those ppl who take wizard just dont know rogue is better or are there any pros?

Wizard can do more damage.
That's all I guess..

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:38 pm 
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Wizards are mainly for party play, whereas XBow is good for solo. Personally i prefer Wizard because i can join a full 8 euro party, which is about 50% faster than solo grinding, and much more fun. With good Warrior and Cleric buffs, i can easily tank a Party Giant General.(Im level 71)

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:55 pm 
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plus when you get to higher lvls, they make good plvlers, and path clearers for trades.


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:35 am 
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dannoob wrote:
plus when you get to higher lvls, they make good plvlers, and path clearers for trades.


yes, in these cases, they are more exceptional than rogues because of the AoE

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:45 am 
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both a kinda the same thing, except rogue can tank a little without xbow extreme, but for a wiz, even without life control, u will die XD. xbow has more range, but wiz has more aoe. just pick the one u want :D.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:26 am 
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Well, if u wanna own in pvp and have some fun at the same time i prefer u to go Rogue, wiz is nice build too, but its mostly 1hit or ull be dead.

Well thats kinda same with rogue too.. If u use DD or EX.

Rogue shines on jobs/mostly great in solo jobs like thief runs and so on.

Wizard is usually best when played cleric sub, so u could tank little bit more than normal and the job of Hunter would be lots easier :)

Both class got invisible/stealth witch makes u invisible, they would be great partners when jobbing..

I would take rogue. pve aint so slow at + 40 lvs u can grind like 5lvs higher mobs than ur own lv, but ofc the wizard would be faster coz u 1hit few ur own level mobs with one skill (aoe)..

Take the Rogue and be happy.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:02 am 
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Hey,

well i dont have a wiz or rogue on high lvl but my friend does xD. He has a 80 full farmed wiz with +7 staff +5+6 equip. She basically ownez FW u could say. Bad thing about Rouge in pvp and Wiz a lil also is that u can see those chars whn they r invisible usin pk2 edit and many ppl do use that. So sneaking up is pointless. Well the big advantage about wiz is that it does do more dmg then a rogue on overage. A rogue can do same dmg maybe a lil more when he crts with his strongest attack (cooldown about 15 sec.) Wizards have min 3 very strong AOE attacks with awefully much dmg. In case u think wiz is easy to kill since he cant 1 hit a 80 farmed glavier with +5 gear well that might be true for a bad equipped wiz +5 wep my friend can though.
Wiz has pwning mass pvp skills such as mass fear. And when u have a 2 hand warrior friend that buffs u u can 1 hit ppl for 1.5 mins nonstop. In other words wiz is kind of a mass killing mashine when u r prepared and in pt.

Take wiz XD


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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:21 pm 
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its really up to you what you would like best, I choose wizard since the AOE attack and massive damage, and yes it possible for a wizard to tank a Giant PT solo with fear, cold attacks, root and KB, if you have cleric as a sub then its alot easier though, but usually its not hard to find a party to play in if your a wizard.

depending on what job you plan on being also is what I would say what to pick, if your a thief pick wizard, no question about that.

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 Post subject: Re: Rogue or Wizard
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:09 pm 
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well i like both wizard and rogue
basically wizard bcuz of the fast lvlingspeed and (imo,only downside is the range, i wouldnt die much since i just avoid champs and giant and i have bard)
rogue bcuz of the fun skills, like duplicate and beast mask (only downside for me is just the need of so many bolts, i just dont like having so less inventory space)

so i think ill first just lvl fast with wiz, and when its a little high lvl, ill make rogue for the funskills :D

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