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 Post subject: Force question
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:10 pm 
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Hi,
Is the vital spot-mind any usefull for a Full Str Blader?
So whithout it, I would only use vital spot body and zero and at the 90 cap the new one too offcourse.
And for the mastery setup would this be any good?
---->80...........................---->90
80 Bicheon.....................90 Bicheon
80 Fire...........................90 Fire
80 Force........................90 Force
28 Cold(snowshield).....30 Cold
32 Lighning

I know lightning is very important, but I think I can live without it. :roll:

Thx in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 2:30 am 
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Drevixa wrote:
I know lightning is very important, but I think I can live without it. :roll:

Thx in advance.


Could you please tell me how will you be able to escape from others or chase them ?? :)

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:20 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:43 am 
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AnarChaos wrote:
Drevixa wrote:
I know lightning is very important, but I think I can live without it. :roll:

Thx in advance.


Could you please tell me how will you be able to escape from others or chase them ?? :)


I'm a blader, I don't need to escape :wink: and for the chasing part...speedboost from a bard i guess

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:00 pm 
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You can't always depend on a bard. Peopel will stop pvping you if you keep pvp'ing in a party.

And "Thinking" you can live without lightning is bad, to drop an essential skill you must have a definite theory to being able to not have it, not just an idea. Just an idea will make your build messy and thus your character weak.

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:29 pm 
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Still no anwser about my actual question..

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:18 pm 
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That's because were saving you from ruining your build.

And yes, if your taking force as a blader, you have to put all the sp you can into it, you can't half-ass force on characters, it needs to be maxed. So yeah, get the skill.

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:49 pm 
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If u really want force do:
80bich/80fire/80light/60force
90bich/90fire/60light/60force so u can still hav the benefit of force and light, but both will kinda weak and u will miss out on some good light buffs light speed,parry ratio, and magical attack. Imo, the best built for pure str blader is 80bich/80fire/80light/60cold and 90bich/90fire/90light/30cold or 90bich/90fire/90light/30force for low lvl res, harmony therapy, and low lvl vital spot, but u will miss out on snow shield.

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:54 pm 
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But I really wanna keep force up to date or I will have not mucht benefits from it. Maybe I can take light at 30 for some speed increase in stead of the snow shield.

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:55 pm 
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Looks good, i gave up ice completely...
but you could give up light force since you do have a shield, since im a glavie i need some speed .
Also, you dont have to have everything to 80, you could just got for 75 on fire or even 70 and lvl up your light force..

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:16 am 
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light is v important, ppl tend to ghost walk away when u cast status on them and u cant catch them anymore (if both use drug of typhoon, u cant catch them)

and u can actualli give up fire instead, force already amplify ur dmg by at least 2x so u dun really need that 10+% phy dmg increase
get light imbue and
90 bich 90 force 90 light 30 fire/ or 30 cold for the snow shield, up to u

damage is not a prob wif force, getting enemy killed is the prob and u can do it wif ghost walk

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:08 am 
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do 80 bicheon--->90
80 fire------>90
80 force----->90
60 light----->30
or
80 bicheon--->90
80 fire------>90
80 light----->90
60 force----->30

there is really no point for ice cuz you full str bladers they tank like mad.
id take the first choice becase you want force


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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:59 am 
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alcoholic wrote:
do 80 bicheon--->90
80 fire------>90
80 force----->90
60 light----->30


Think I'll go for that one, I can even lower fire with 2 lvls so i can still have lighting at 32 so i have a mini gost-walk

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:35 pm 
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Lets wait until the 90 cap actually comes then you can actually see if you need to max out force or just get the first skill in the last book and lighting to lvl 30 you will be buying a shit load of drug of typhoons :D unless that make another typhoon that is faster

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:30 pm 
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nooooooooobies.

you need MAX FORCE.

if your force isnt maxed, your vital spots will get resisted.

thats why lvl 60 warlocks cant go cursin lvl 80s. The vital spots have like a 5% probability at that lvl, and its only lvl 6 so its extremely WEAK.

and force 90 is good cuz at lvl 90 you get division vital spot. Anything lower would be a waste of mastery levels.

I had lvl 79 force and my vital spots were resisted by lvl 80s like 50% of the time, force 80 made it really accurate.

Max force at 90 or dont get it at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:58 pm 
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Very simple. U dont need light. Buy a drug of typhoon. We'll see which waste more money, drug of typhoon or special pill !?

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:48 am 
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all capped players tend to use drug typhoon now
so 2 players both 100% move speed, 1 wif ghost walk , the other doesnt have ghost walk, who has a god damn clear advantage?

even if u cant beat the 1 w/o ghost walk, u can easily run away fr him
so wats the point of having uber duper insane dmg wif force and NOT being able to catch up and finish the enemy off :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: Force question
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:43 pm 
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typhoon+ghostwalk > tyhpoon+no ghost walk.

the one with ghostwalk is MUCH faster.
20m+ advantage every 6 seconds.

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