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 Post subject: farm at lvl 80 or de-lvl to 20 ?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:51 pm 
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I want to de-lvl my char lvl 80 to 20 so I can start farming at ongs with him :)
I know the fastest way to de-lvl is to be ,murderer.
Right know I have 100 sp so I dont care if I loose sp while de-leveling. :P

How much time do you estimate to de-lvl a char from 80 to 20? More than 1 month? :?
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More like 1 week i think if u have someone to res u all the time. Respawning in town and walking out again would take longer. But seriously, dlvl at mobs so that u dont lose sp...

EDIT: nvm u only have 100 sp, then murderer would be faster

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 Post subject: Re: time de-lvl from 80 to 20 ?
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Would it not be easier to;
A - Make a new char
B - Collect curst hearts, and delevel your skills to a 9Gap. Then Farm.

Both of these methods will be faster and more beneficial.

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Infect wrote:
A - Make a new char
I want to keep exactly the actual char name ; all ppl know me by this name:P
B - Collect crust hearts, and de-level your skills to a 9Gap. Then Farm.
De-lvling from 80->20 then starting colecting crust hearts to de-lvl mastery too will give me back some sp maybe 250ksp+
And isnt it more fster to farm at lvl 20 at ongs rather than farming at 80 with gap 9 at mobs lvl 87 ?



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 Post subject: Re: time de-lvl from 80 to 20 ?
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Cursed hearts? That will be damn expensive...
You could make a char with a name which looks like your old one, which seems easier and faster in my eyes.

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true it will be a lot of gold- maybe I will borrow some to do that lol

but the pro things will be :

*I'm full str ; at lvl 20 I will keep the STR stats from 80 and I will not die from ongs so easy while farming ;)

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-at lvl 80 with 9 gap - fighting at mobs 80-85 in chinese share pt will bring me like MAX 3k sp in 3 hours of gold premium.
-at lvl 20 with 9 gap - at ongs - I hope I can get 9k sp in 3 hours of premium farming.

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 Post subject: Re: time de-lvl from 80 to 20 ?
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ur retarded, 90 curst hearts ftw... nub

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just buy item mall potion and go to 9 gap and farm


will be alot faster, trust me

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9 gapping is wiser.

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 Post subject: Re: time de-lvl from 80 to 20 ?
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M3K0S wrote:
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ur retarded, 90 curst hearts ftw... nub


lol we have Mr. smart here


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I need 1 MILL sp for lvl 100 blader with 3 masteries.
I will use gold premium ticket+sp ticket.

lets do some simple math to see what way is faster :wink:

lvl 80 with 9 gap = 3k sp/3 hours of ticket --330 days to make 1 MILL sp
lvl 20 with 9 gap = 9k sp/3hours of tickedt --110 days to make 1 MILL sp

de-lvling 80->20 = 10 days
lvl-ing 20->80 with powerlvl = 30 days
(I have friends that made lvl 1-70 in 6 days only with power lvl)

So: 110+10+30 = 150 days to have 1 MILL SP farming at lvl 20.

shortly :
*1 year to farm with 9 gap at lvl 80 1 MILL sp
*half year the process of de-lvl-ing,farming 1MILL sp, lvl-ing up to 80

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RoseNoir wrote:
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ur retarded, 90 curst hearts ftw... nub


lol we have Mr. smart here


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I need 1 MILL sp for lvl 100 blader with 3 masteries.
I will use gold premium ticket+sp ticket.

lets do some simple math to see what way is faster :wink:

lvl 80 with 9 gap = 3k sp/3 hours of ticket --330 days to make 1 MILL sp
lvl 20 with 9 gap = 9k sp/3hours of tickedt --110 days to make 1 MILL sp

de-lvling 80->20 = 10 days
lvl-ing 20->80 with powerlvl = 30 days
(I have friends that made lvl 1-70 in 6 days only with power lvl)

So: 110+10+30 = 150 days to have 1 MILL SP farming at lvl 20.

shortly :
*1 year to farm with 9 gap at lvl 80 1 MILL sp
*half year the process of de-lvl-ing,farming 1MILL sp, lvl-ing up to 80


de-lvling 80->20 = 10 days
lvl-ing 20->80 with powerlvl = 30 days
Watching you waste half a year of your life = Priceless

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 Post subject: Re: time de-lvl from 80 to 20 ?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:20 pm 
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umh, ok, lets start:
dlvling from 80 - 20 is going to cost a SHITLOAD of gold. over 30 mil. have fun. ALSO, collecting curst hearts, is going to take u FOREVER. its easier to grind some more with gt. this way u can grind for the 3 hours, and then DO OTHER STUFF.
also, just keep grinding, only lvl a couple of skills in ur mastery, and ur imbue leave it a couple of lvls behind. eventually you'll cap, and ull be lvl 90 with a couple of skills maxed. then u can job AND farm at the same time rather than farming 24/7.

EDIT: ALSO! its going to cost a SHITLOAD of gold to get plvl for the sp u need + the plvl from 20 - 80.

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 Post subject: Re: time de-lvl from 80 to 20 ?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:54 pm 
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delete this char

play around with another char for 7 days

then new char w/same old name and just pfarm at ongs at lvl 20.

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 Post subject: Re: time de-lvl from 80 to 20 ?
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^ Pretty sure you can't use the same name anymore, even if it is deleted.

ANYWAY, to actually ANSWER the question, murder of course.
Then die in town over, and over and over.
I know that there is a loader out there that you can set to "auto demurder" or something, but that isn't allowed here so yeah.
I guess you could get one of those bird thingyies from the simpsons that go back and forth pressing Y (in your case enter.. or left-click, lol).
Same thing, anyway good luck.


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RoseNoir wrote:
M3K0S wrote:
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ur retarded, 90 curst hearts ftw... nub


lol we have Mr. smart here


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I need 1 MILL sp for lvl 100 blader with 3 masteries.
I will use gold premium ticket+sp ticket.

lets do some simple math to see what way is faster :wink:

lvl 80 with 9 gap = 3k sp/3 hours of ticket --330 days to make 1 MILL sp
lvl 20 with 9 gap = 9k sp/3hours of tickedt --110 days to make 1 MILL sp

de-lvling 80->20 = 10 days
lvl-ing 20->80 with powerlvl = 30 days
(I have friends that made lvl 1-70 in 6 days only with power lvl)

So: 110+10+30 = 150 days to have 1 MILL SP farming at lvl 20.

shortly :
*1 year to farm with 9 gap at lvl 80 1 MILL sp
*half year the process of de-lvl-ing,farming 1MILL sp, lvl-ing up to 80


u forgot the other half a year for collecting 200k curst hearts..... and the 200M that is gonna take to dlvl.... gl getting 200M

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M3K0S wrote:
RoseNoir wrote:
M3K0S wrote:
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ur retarded, 90 curst hearts ftw... nub


lol we have Mr. smart here


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I need 1 MILL sp for lvl 100 blader with 3 masteries.
I will use gold premium ticket+sp ticket.

lets do some simple math to see what way is faster :wink:

lvl 80 with 9 gap = 3k sp/3 hours of ticket --330 days to make 1 MILL sp
lvl 20 with 9 gap = 9k sp/3hours of tickedt --110 days to make 1 MILL sp

de-lvling 80->20 = 10 days
lvl-ing 20->80 with powerlvl = 30 days
(I have friends that made lvl 1-70 in 6 days only with power lvl)

So: 110+10+30 = 150 days to have 1 MILL SP farming at lvl 20.

shortly :
*1 year to farm with 9 gap at lvl 80 1 MILL sp
*half year the process of de-lvl-ing,farming 1MILL sp, lvl-ing up to 80


u forgot the other half a year for collecting 200k curst hearts..... and the 200M that is gonna take to dlvl.... gl getting 200M


He or She won't be delvling his masteries. Just his level. Easy if done properly.

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negitive gaps are brutal dude, just a few below and a giant will only give like 50 exp sp imagine that huge of a gap you'd get 1 sp every 5 lvls

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foudre wrote:
negitive gaps are brutal dude, just a few below and a giant will only give like 50 exp sp imagine that huge of a gap you'd get 1 sp every 5 lvls


...Gaps are applied negatively? Are you positive?

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edit: I changed post title to be more suggestive :wink:

lol if gaps will not apply negative will be great :D low chances tho

crust hearts 'problem' :

*de-lvling mastery 80 to 11 (to be with 9 gap at lvl 20)--> 80-11=69 crust hearts
*de-lvling 3 mastery 80 --> 69x3 =207 hearts

lets say I'm lvl 80 full farmed in 3 mastery (lucky me I'm not)
next things I checked with nivlam.com
at lvl 80
-bicheon weapon mastery = requires 230 hearts
-fire mastery = requires 150 hearts
-light mastery = requires 150 hearts

Total : 3 mastery + 3 skills tree 207+230+150+150= 737 hearts. I round it to 750hearts.
(NOT 200k hearts like someone said :roll: )

One player can hold max 300 hearts in inventory at a time.
First de-lvl fire and light mastery and in the end weapon mastery.
The indicated way and the fastest way to receive crust hearts is in party share.

Lets say I receive just 75 hearts per day in full party share.
This means 10 days to get 750 hearts.
money problem :

I'm not sure but de-lvling 1 skill/mastery takes 200k gold.
750 hearts requires : 200*750 = 150MILL
(lucky me I have from where to borrow ;)and at lvl 8x its easy to make gold anyway)

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Option 1:
*lvl 80 with 9 gap =3k sp/3 hours of ticket =330 days to make 1MILL sp
Total = 330 days

Option 2:
*getting 750 crust hearts = 10 days
*de-lvl 80 to 20 = 10 days
*lvl 20 with 9 gap =9k sp/3hours of ticket =110 days to make 1 MILL sp
*lvl up 20->80 = 30 days
TOTAL = 160 days

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:55 am 
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Infect wrote:
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ur retarded, 90 curst hearts ftw... nub


lol we have Mr. smart here


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I need 1 MILL sp for lvl 100 blader with 3 masteries.
I will use gold premium ticket+sp ticket.

lets do some simple math to see what way is faster :wink:

lvl 80 with 9 gap = 3k sp/3 hours of ticket --330 days to make 1 MILL sp
lvl 20 with 9 gap = 9k sp/3hours of tickedt --110 days to make 1 MILL sp

de-lvling 80->20 = 10 days
lvl-ing 20->80 with powerlvl = 30 days
(I have friends that made lvl 1-70 in 6 days only with power lvl)

So: 110+10+30 = 150 days to have 1 MILL SP farming at lvl 20.

shortly :
*1 year to farm with 9 gap at lvl 80 1 MILL sp
*half year the process of de-lvl-ing,farming 1MILL sp, lvl-ing up to 80


de-lvling 80->20 = 10 days
lvl-ing 20->80 with powerlvl = 30 days
Watching you waste half a year of your life = Priceless


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Watching you waste half a year of your life = Priceless

haha pwned ! 8)


Lol you didnt get it, dont you :
Saving half of year at ongs rather than farming 1 year at mobs 80, THAT is priceless.

Anyway,if it is good or not to spend time in a game like sro should be subject of another thread not this one. :wink:

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why every body is soo freaking sick about d-lvl chars to farm? you have 2 opcions
1= if your in game name is RoseNoir made a char named R0s3N01r xD as simple has that. then farm at ongs and thatz all
2= grind with 5/7 gap till lvl 100 and you can complete your goal of 1kk sp xD



you have to that in to account the amount of sp that you ll gaing the with and with out prem. plus the sp from the premiun quest and the sp that you ll gain when you die :P



lv 80>100 with 6 gap=906.272 sp
lv 80>100 with 7 gap= 1,283,884 SP

the only bad think is that you ll got bored with out pt


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negitive gaps are brutal dude, just a few below and a giant will only give like 50 exp sp imagine that huge of a gap you'd get 1 sp every 5 lvls


...Gaps are applied negatively? Are you positive?

i can remurder to double check, but i got less sp then at a 0 gap

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LOL its not 750 hearts... its 7.5k cuz remember 10 hearts per lvl down on one thingy... nub xD

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OK hes Lvl 80 and Never thought of his SP, and seriously considers DE-leveling, also mentioning "Borrowing" money...


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delvlin to 20 is just idiotic.. farm at 90 skills at 81

mobs give u more exp so if ur 9 gapped u make more SP and u can make a TON of money

i wouldnt even consider delvlin to 20 just farm at 90 srsly..

also to get like 40K sp at ongs u gotta go 21 - 28 which doesnt take long but if u want massive SP it does take a while farmin at 90 doesnt take that long


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Oh for **** sake make a new character, deleveling is idiotic ...
You need to delevel your skills, then masteries, then level, just to do something you can do if you make new character ...

Just make a new character, and quit with math shit, you can farm 1 milion sp, before getting 7k cursed hearts

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gl ending up bored, broke and a with a fk'd up char around lvl 70 lol.

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RoseNoir wrote:
-at lvl 80 with 9 gap - fighting at mobs 80-85 in chinese share pt will bring me like MAX 3k sp in 3 hours of gold premium.
-at lvl 20 with 9 gap - at ongs - I hope I can get 9k sp in 3 hours of premium farming.


I dont remember how much i gained onongs farming with 9 gap, but i remember getting much more SP 9 gaping at lvl79 with mobs lv85-87, you should try more effective parties.

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*lvl 80 with 9 gap =3k sp/3 hours of ticket =330 days to make 1MILL sp
Total = 330 days


UMH... u need 1 mil sp from lvl 30 - 100.
u only need like 300k sp right now probably. to lvl ur wep and 2 masteries. cause ur not lvling them all the way. if u dlvl, ur seriously retarded, cause its gonna cost you a shitload of money to dvl through curst hearts cause u have to delevel masteries AND skills, so this itself is time consuming. and then u have to farm, MORE TIME AND MONEY, and then after all this you have to lvl back up, which is goint to take EVEN MORE TIME and EVEN MORE MONEY! WOOOO. so u end up spending Money^3 where as if you just lvled to 90 with a 4 gap with spt and pt ull be full farmed.

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