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 Post subject: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 8:11 pm 
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Ok... I just made my SOM+8... without astral... got the drop with immortal and I just put lucky on it...

Whats the odds of getting +9 without a premium... cause I want to have the 2nd best D7 weapon in the game.... or sword in the game... :P

I've asked this before and everyone says their is no odds... but I heard their is a little tool made that you can just play around with items without actually messing them up...

Like use luck/str/int/ect... and put those on and try getting +9... and find out what odds are... :O

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:01 pm 
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It's called Alchemy Gamer.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:16 pm 
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Can you send me link? I google'd it and so much shit came...

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:48 pm 
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The odds alchemygamer uses arent anywhere near the ones ingame..

Every item has his own luck factor..As your sword went to +8 without much problem, there is a probability to get him to +9 with not too much effort.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:57 am 
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I downloaded and played the alchemy game... it is one of the best build systems I've played yet for it...

It is quite accurate... took me 300 elixirs to get +8 without astral... that sounds about right unless your just lucky as ****.

The only thing that I wish I knew how to edit or have the person do would be put in D1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9 and let us be able to change prices on the stones and how much money we have. That way we can base it more off of us, instead of 15m.

Like on Troy luck D8 is 4m not 10m, so we need to change price on that... or the elixirs are 130k each... not 200k, this would help determine how much money you need... but this game helped a lot, and I think I am going to be holding back on +9 for a long time.... or at least till I get another 50m to blow making weapons and shit.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:50 am 
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Again, you CANT take the alchemy gamer as an example...Its not made by joymax so unless the maker broke into JMs database and stole their info about elixer +ing its not like ingame alchemy.

I +4ed almost all the weapon I chose the first time..If not, they kept failing at +2.. That isnt accurate at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:43 am 
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Well it's accurate too me...

I would fail at +3 all the time... usually got to +4 every-other or every 3x which is normal.

+8 took me about 100-200 elixirs... which is normal... Usually it takes me 30-50 elixirs for +7 and thats what it took on the game.

It seem really accurate other than the prices... but I am not attempting +9 unless I get another 50m which I should have soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:57 pm 
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Repercussion wrote:
Well it's accurate too me...

I would fail at +3 all the time... usually got to +4 every-other or every 3x which is normal.

+8 took me about 100-200 elixirs... which is normal... Usually it takes me 30-50 elixirs for +7 and thats what it took on the game.

It seem really accurate other than the prices... but I am not attempting +9 unless I get another 50m which I should have soon.


I can get +11 in 11 tries. Alchemy gamer is all about speed, if you do it all fast, then you can succeed perfectly each time.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 12:37 am 
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I do it fast and it doesn't work for me... So get +11 and take a screen-shot if your so sure... only luck... no astral... nobody spends $1000 on astral unless your stupid.

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DO IT. +9 is sexy, +8 sucks. +7>+8.
If you fail, oh well. Bring it back to +7, and still be sexy.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
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Repercussion wrote:
I do it fast and it doesn't work for me... So get +11 and take a screen-shot if your so sure... only luck... no astral... nobody spends $1000 on astral unless your stupid.


don't waste time with the other things, just Luck Elixir: click.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:10 pm 
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I need to get elixirs though... so if it fails I have enough gold to go for +9 again...

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 Post subject: Re: Alchemy Odds?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:47 am 
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well....i recently bouhg t this premium plus thingy so i wanted to try my luck with alchemy....

i have an awesome 72+5 spear all blue stats are on 100%....crit 14 stats are realy good,mag atack 61 phys 42 reinforces are decent......so it would be perfect to make it +7...it would be one of the best +7 weaps ive seen..at least on my server...anyway i saw +7 weaps with80% mag atack and stuff like that but i havent seen crit bigger then 11-12...on those weaps...at least on stall network so far...

so i tried to make it +7 bought 2 imortals of course....i assume astrals are wasting of money...

it failed ....and i neede like pff 9 mils i spended trying to get it back on +5
/....4 mils costed me 1 luck stone.....3 mils around 70 luck powders...i used about 48-49 or something...and around 3 mils for elixires...100-130k per piece...

so when u look at it...my +7 didnt worked yet but i didnt spend much trying to get it back +5
i done it pretty quick....when u consider my luck in alchemy i had so far(not that good ^^)...


so i guess i just have to save around 150 mils so i can actualy play with alchemy untill i make my spear +7.
i assume making +9 without astral is pointless...it will either work from 1st time with no failings or it will not work at all...that is my opinion at least.

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