alchemy and high +'s

aazumak · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 918 **Location:**

i see alot of people saying they try for +9. fail and lose the item.

can i assume they just didn't have immortal on it? or does immortal only work for a certain amount of +?

if i have immortal and astral, when i fail it should go back to +4 right?

also for lucky, does lucky only work once or does lucky 6/6 work 6 times as effectively as lucky 1/6? id really like to know that about lucky

ColourBlind · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1389 **Location:** JRPGs

Immortal is for +4 & above so if you fail to +5 the item won't break, cause wpns / amour / acc's break after that
As for Astral that's for saving it to +4 instead of +0 again

Lucky is used once everytime you try + so 6 lucky means you have it 6 times

cin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:26 pm

aazumak wrote:

can i assume they just didn't have immortal on it? or does immortal only work for a certain amount of +?

as far as i know, immortal works with any amount of +

aazumak wrote:

also for lucky, does lucky only work once or does lucky 6/6 work 6 times as effectively as lucky 1/6? id really like to know that about lucky

as far as i know, each lucky slightly increases your luck, but its still luck
based. that means that you can pump as many luck into your item as you want,
but there will always be a chance on failing.

aazumak · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 918 **Location:**

aye but 6/6 lucky has a better chance of success than 1/6 lucky?

i think this makes sense since there is a chance that all of the lucky will go away, so it should make sense that the higher lucky there is, the better the chance. im not sure though :/

ColourBlind · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1389 **Location:** JRPGs

aazumak wrote:

aye but 6/6 lucky has a better chance of success than 1/6 lucky?

i think this makes sense since there is a chance that all of the lucky will go away, so it should make sense that the higher lucky there is, the better the chance. im not sure though :/

Nope, 1/1 6/6 5/5 doesn't matter, cause each 1 means you have ONE lucky stat & when you use it, it goes down to 5/5 from 6/6 even if you failed to + whatever your trying to +

So having a lucky powder + lucky on the wpn you'd think you'd have better chance in success but ima not sure

aazumak · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 918 **Location:**

but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...

ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make

devilti · **Joined:** Dec 2006 **Posts:** 775 **Location:** denver

ColourBlind wrote:

Immortal is for +4 & above so if you fail to +5 the item won't break, cause wpns / amour / acc's break after that
As for Astral that's for saving it to +4 instead of +0 again

Lucky is used once everytime you try + so 6 lucky means you have it 6 times

just a little correction. immortal works for all +'s.
ITs astral that works only after +4

ColourBlind · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1389 **Location:** JRPGs

devilti wrote:

ColourBlind wrote:

Immortal is for +4 & above so if you fail to +5 the item won't break, cause wpns / amour / acc's break after that
As for Astral that's for saving it to +4 instead of +0 again

Lucky is used once everytime you try + so 6 lucky means you have it 6 times

just a little correction. immortal works for all +'s.
ITs astral that works only after +4

Thanks

ColourBlind · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1389 **Location:** JRPGs

aazumak wrote:

but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...

ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make

6/6 means you have 6 luckys soo...

say you had 4/4 lucky
You try +1 your +0 ... you made it +1
your lucky goes down to 3/3 cause you used ONE for the +1 from +0
Then you try +2 ... fails ... goes back to +0
your lucky goes down to 2/2 cause like above you used ONE etc etc etc
If you don't get it then i give up

aazumak · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 918 **Location:**

ColourBlind wrote:

aazumak wrote:

but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...

ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make

6/6 means you have 6 luckys soo...

say you had 4/4 lucky
You try +1 your +0 ... you made it +1
your lucky goes down to 3/3 cause you used ONE for the +1 from +0
Then you try +2 ... fails ... goes back to +0
your lucky goes down to 2/2 cause like above you used ONE etc etc etc
If you don't get it then i give up

but thats not true! ive had a 4 lucky and made a +2 into a +3 and all teh luckies went away

ColourBlind · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1389 **Location:** JRPGs

aazumak wrote:

ColourBlind wrote:

aazumak wrote:

but if you have lucky 6/6, theres a chance it all goes away...

ok thanks for clearing it up though, that means alot less lucky stone si have to make

6/6 means you have 6 luckys soo...

say you had 4/4 lucky
You try +1 your +0 ... you made it +1
your lucky goes down to 3/3 cause you used ONE for the +1 from +0
Then you try +2 ... fails ... goes back to +0
your lucky goes down to 2/2 cause like above you used ONE etc etc etc
If you don't get it then i give up

but thats not true! ive had a 4 lucky and made a +2 into a +3 and all teh luckies went away

Has never happened to me before, hmm strange :shock:

aazumak · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 918 **Location:**

i assume im incorrect some way, it was a while ago, i think im just stupid.

ill take your word for it

thnks for your help

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